teedubbya
8 years ago

yeah, I guess this is why I'm not understanding the game over dance. there's a long way to go on different issues at stake.

frankj1 wrote:




Some tactics keep getting regurgitated and to some they are new each time. This was discussed long ago when the dossier first came out.... and no responsible news outlet would report on the content of the dossier out of deference to the orange sesspool, but they did talk about where it came from and why . It bothered me at the time that republicans and democrats would fund such a thing with the brits. It was covered ad nausea. That doesn't fit the narrative in here though.

I actually believe the orange embarrassment likely enjoys bathing in pee, but don't really care. To me that would be one of his more redeeming qualities compared to everything the turdbag has always been and will always be.



Investigate this to the nth degree. Investigate benghazi to the nth degree. Investigate filegate to the nth degree. Investigate Trump/Russia to the nth degree. If you find something do something about it. If not, move on. Just don't decide first then keep trying to get to where you want to be rather than the truth.

oh yea but the other side....
DrMaddVibe
8 years ago

TW,
The DNC paid foreigners to provide false intel against Trump for the sole purpose of derailing the election.

That's collusion. By a foreign nation.
Sure they paid the Brits who worked with the Russians. But we've got that pesky thing called proof.

Before, it was just an accusation that Trump colluded with Russia to impact the election.

Now we have proof it was HRC colluding with British/Russians to impact the election.


I'll state it again. I really don't think it's a big deal that this was done.
But the left DID.
Only now it's their own team who stepped over the line.
So we'll hear how it's "no big deal" this time.
Because...Trump.



tailgater wrote:



And the same British guy...his cover was blown...was being paid by the FBI...who was the director? Oh yeah, Comey.

Let me see if I have this correct...the Left goes berserker mode because America didn't want carpetbagging Clinton in the White House so she goes postal with the DNC machine to derail a Presidency...funded by the FBI and the DNC as well as the Clintons...Calls for a special prosecutor are answered and the Left gets giddy because they're gonna nail Trump to the wall. Trump smells something rotten in the swamp and fires Comey...in hindsight he looks like a genius for doing that...Comey vows revenge and his former boss is selected to run the dumpster fire...Looks bad for Trump but he sticks to his guns that he didn't have anything to do with Russian influence peddling...now we find out that it's been Comey, Clinton and the DNC all along. So, here we already have a special prosecutor...he has the files...he has the people...the dots are there to connect...how much longer does this $hitshow go on for?

Meanwhile...all the snowflakes are melting, the Alt-Right is goosestepping and the media...they're silent running EXCEPT for the NY Times...they're PISSED because they were LIED to! This is epic. Fire up the popcorn and lets see the perp walks! Marc Elias admits Hillary KNEW????!!! REALLY? Panetta dead to rights smack dab in another Clinton scandal. Pretty soon people are gonna start adding that 2+2 does equal 4 and he'll be dead in a DC park from suicide with multiple gunshots from a revolver!!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5016865/A-YEAR-Clinton-lies-dirty-dossier-exposed.html 


This is a delicious treat manifesting itself here for all to enjoy. See them for what they are now? Oh, can't admit you've been cheated. That's all right. Most just laugh at it all...but now...there has to be a punishment.

Oh Donald...
teedubbya
8 years ago
*shrug*

ok. I'm glad you are excited.
ZRX1200
8 years ago
All good lies have some truth.

Pathetic to think someone is OK with investigations and unmasking done based off of a fabricated report that was done by a FBI funded informant. And now the investigation is being done by the person that was in charge when that happened......if you don't see this for what it is you are a sad sad clown.

I hope heads roll and this is EXACTLY what a special prosecutor should be used for. Not the dossier, but the whole situation. The DNC/Hill dog may get fines for the dossier (was not claimed in the election forms as this was outside legal representation that's purpose wasn't named). Our government cannot work this way, it will not work this way.
DrMaddVibe
8 years ago

All good lies have some truth.

Pathetic to think someone is OK with investigations and unmasking done based off of a fabricated report that was done by a FBI funded informant. And now the investigation is being done by the person that was in charge when that happened......if you don't see this for what it is you are a sad sad clown.

I hope heads roll and this is EXACTLY what a special prosecutor should be used for. Not the dossier, but the whole situation. The DNC/Hill dog may get fines for the dossier (was not claimed in the election forms as this was outside legal representation that's purpose wasn't named). Our government cannot work this way, it will not work this way.

ZRX1200 wrote:





"Today, Campaign Legal Center (CLC) filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) alleging the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign committee violated campaign finance law. They failed to accurately disclose the purpose and recipient of payments for the dossier of research alleging connections between then-candidate Donald Trump and Russia, effectively hiding these payments from public scrutiny, contrary to the requirements of federal law."

http://www.campaignlegalcenter.org/news/press-releases/hillary-america-dnc-failed-disclose-legally-required-information-about-funding 

:-k 🤔 🤔
DrMaddVibe
8 years ago
Oh...the Debbie Wasserman-Shultz...the gift that keeps on giving...the water is starting to come to a boil!

Someone better watch her too...She'll prolly be found in a park after committing suicide with multiple gunshot wounds from a revolver!
DrafterX
8 years ago
That's the style of the times... 😟
teedubbya
8 years ago
Investigate everything and dole out the pain. Whomever deserves it should get it. Lets not predetermine things and pick and choose. Let the chips fall.
DrafterX
8 years ago
Puppy-dog normally cleans up the chips I drop... 😟
teedubbya
8 years ago
screw the puppy dog
DrafterX
8 years ago
dstieger
8 years ago

Oh...the Debbie Wasserman-Shultz...the gift that keeps on giving...the water is starting to come to a boil!

Someone better watch her too...She'll prolly be found in a park after committing suicide with multiple gunshot wounds from a revolver!

DrMaddVibe wrote:




damned bumpstocks
tailgater
8 years ago

Actually tail I've always taken issue with the republicans or the dems (in this case both) paying ex or current brit intel agents for info. It's not illegal but sure rubs me wrong. I didn't realize this was new info to you. It's been pretty common knowledge to me for a long time. There is some more detail but I guess I (and anyone paying attention) already knew the gist of it.

I don't like it or condone it. It's slimy.

It also doesn't make what the Trump campaign is being accused of with the Russians any more ok legally or morally. It also doesn't change what is going on in that investigation in the least from which we still don't know the outcome. And while it is smelly, what the trump campaign is being accused of with the Russians.... rightly or wrongly is exponentially worse and potentially illegal. I'm guessing a few folks are going to jail on the russia thing but not on the dossier.

I'm not going to argue it because I don't know what the end result of the trump investigation is or if anything wrong even happened. Besides in here people don't want information, they want affirmation.

I agree the dossier funding is seedy and always has been. I've never liked it. I just cant get to where you are..... yet. It's not really new news and doesn't change much.

Newsflash... Hillary is a slimy cvnt and we are lucky she didn't get in to office. That doesn't change the fact Trump is a pile of **** and an embarrassment. Both can be true anywhere but in here.

teedubbya wrote:



You're overlooking so much.
The way I understand it is this:
The FBI used the fake dossier information to (justify) wiretap the Trump Aide.
Obama "unmasked" portions of the wiretapping to reveal others in the Trump campaign. The sitting POTUS can unmask private wiretaps only in times of national security. The fake premise used was something about a Saudi Prince visiting the US.
This information was shared with dozens of departments in the Federal Government, leading to where we now stand with the Trump/Russia investigation. Which doesn't exist without a FAKE dossier.

So it wasn't just HRC trying to beat trump with lies. That's old hat. No big deal.
It's the DNC and the White House and the FBI using the Russian dossier that makes this a scandal bigger than Watergate.

In the meantime, we get to see the obscene retractions from all the lefties, claiming they never thought the dossier was a big deal.
teedubbya
8 years ago
I'm not over looking anything here.

Investigate all. Dole out the pain on all deserving. Just don't pick and choose like you want to.

I say lock her up. WGAF. But none of that changes Trump's situation.

By the way we don't know what the investigators do or why they did what. I think we need to stay tuned unless we just decide to stop looking because you have enough to convince you.
DrafterX
8 years ago
I was convinced a long time ago but you guys wouldn't listen.. 🤐
Speyside
8 years ago
TG, this is just a question. Where have you seen that the dossier is fake? I ask because I have not seen anything that shows the information is fake or real, but to be truthful I have not been following this.
tailgater
8 years ago

TG, this is just a question. Where have you seen that the dossier is fake? I ask because I have not seen anything that shows the information is fake or real, but to be truthful I have not been following this.

Speyside wrote:



If you look at the details, the dossier was initially funded by an unnamed GOP rival and it was focused on Trump's financial and social ties to Russia. Not sure why that's a big deal, but there you have it.
When Christopher Steele took over and the DNC and HRC got involved, it evolved into more outrageous allegations including a sexual fantasy complete with golden showers. It's about as believable as Hillary running a child sex ring out of a pizza shop. You don't have to see proof that it's fake at that point.

Is some true? Apparently yes.
But if you go into a Caribbean smoke shop and find one cuban cigar that is obviously fake, do you assume the others might be genuine?

That's my take.

tailgater
8 years ago

I'm not over looking anything here.

Investigate all. Dole out the pain on all deserving. Just don't pick and choose like you want to.

I say lock her up. WGAF. But none of that changes Trump's situation.

By the way we don't know what the investigators do or why they did what. I think we need to stay tuned unless we just decide to stop looking because you have enough to convince you.

teedubbya wrote:



I agree, except I feel it does change Trump's situation.



Buckwheat
8 years ago
I think it would be naive to assume that everybody involved in this past election doesn't have some dirt on their hands & connection either directly or indirectly to the Russians or other foreign governments regardless of the candidate &/or party. 🌫
DrafterX
8 years ago
From what I gather the unknown Candidate originally hired this company for a different reason..

A still unknown Republican client reportedly hired the firm prior to April 2016 during the primaries to start doing standard oppo-research on Trump. The Post's sources say that lawyer Marc Elias and his firm Perkins Coie retained Fusion GPS on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee in April 2016. Fusion GPS then hired former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele, who has "ties to the FBI and the U.S. intelligence community." Steele began to look into Trump's possible connections to Russia and ultimately authored the dossier, with Simpson's help, according to NBC.

:-k
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