Phil222
8 years ago

Then don't listen and appreciate his actions... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



As far as actions go...I like that he got rid of the TPP even though I've read that they're trying to put pieces of it back into other trade deals. I like his lobbying ban even though I would've liked to have seen it taken further. Everything else has been corporate giveaways so far.

Drain the swamp? Ha! He put a Trump Tower on the swamp and is now trying to pass it off as Fifth Avenue. Forgive me for not buying it.

Like I've stated previously, he's not the main problem. He just took advantage of the mess that our political system is in. I could be wrong but I feel like most Americans want to see some change in the direction that our governmental policy making has taken. At least polling has shown this, and not Obama "change." Actual change.

Until we...

Get rid of the electoral college.
Install rank choice voting.
Install term limits
Overturn Citizens United and have publicly financed elections...

I'm afraid we will not see much change. I'm not interested in majoritarianism per se; I would just like to have equal representation at the table when our government is making policy decisions that have serious consequences on my life. I'm not naive enough to think that I will ever have the same "equal" representation as those at the top; I would just like to get as close to equal as humanly possible.

I don't feel like that is too much to ask out of my government, do you?
DrafterX
8 years ago
No... My vote was against Hillary.. I'm hoping for the best... 😟
Phil222
8 years ago

No... My vote was against Hillary.. I'm hoping for the best... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



Hillary would've been slightly better or worse...not sure which.
Brewha
8 years ago
Clinton would not have given the business owners as 40+% tax break.
And the crums the rest of us get will evaporate - while our benefits and deductions are being slashed across the board.

She also would not be playing the fool on the world stage.....
Brewha
8 years ago

Liberals hate trump and they don't believe anything he says.

Yet they hang on every word.


So tell me: who has the instability?




tailgater wrote:


I’m with banderl on this.
But, when it comes to unstable, what about Trumps knuckle dragging supporters?
Talk about stupid and crazy.....
Phil222
8 years ago

Clinton would not have given the business owners as 40+% tax break.

Brewha wrote:



I would put this in the slightly better category. It would be a bit of a boondoggle to sit and argue about what Clinton may have done had she been elected, but I do seem to remember her being pretty friendly with some Wall Street types.

I think she spent somwhere around 2 billion on her campaign?...that's a LOT of favors.

And I happen to like that Trump makes us look stupid on the world stage...it keeps people paying attention to what is going on. If we had a Pence or Clinton in there...I don't think people would be watching as closely.
DrafterX
8 years ago
It was very clear Hillary was going to raise taxes... 😟
Phil222
8 years ago

It was very clear Hillary was going to raise taxes... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



I guess we will never know...
Brewha
8 years ago

I would put this in the slightly better category. It would be a bit of a boondoggle to sit and argue about what Clinton may have done had she been elected, but I do seem to remember her being pretty friendly with some Wall Street types.

I think she spent somwhere around 2 billion on her campaign?...that's a LOT of favors.

And I happen to like that Trump makes us look stupid on the world stage...it keeps people paying attention to what is going on. If we had a Pence or Clinton in there...I don't think people would be watching as closely.

Phil222 wrote:


Clinton wanted to lower the cost of education and make business pay for it. But, in fairness if we hold her to the Trump standard of promise keeping - we she could have done anything.


The world watching us for leadership, innovation and honor is our tradition. Them watching us for buffoonery is new for us as a nation - but we got it.....
DrafterX
8 years ago
She was asked point blank and she did not deny the plan... I'm sure she would have tried to make us feel good about it tho... 😟
Phil222
8 years ago

She was asked point blank and she did not deny the plan... I'm sure she would have tried to make us feel good about it tho... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



Sort of like Trump and his campaign promises, or his tax returns?
frankj1
8 years ago

It was very clear Hillary was going to raise taxes... 😟

DrafterX wrote:


Republican Congress says "two chances"...

fat and slim

simply could have never happened
Speyside
8 years ago
What happened to lower the deficit?
DrafterX
8 years ago
Well, not giving money away has got help... 😟
Phil222
8 years ago

Well, not giving money away has got help... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



Like the tax bill?
Brewha
8 years ago
Giving money to corporations is GOOD.....

Especially if it is your money.




Right Drafter?
victor809
8 years ago
The president is an unstable, narcissistic moron.

There is no greater proof than him saying that he's a stable genius.

Next up, drafter is going to tell us he's skinny.
Kawaksback
8 years ago

The president is an unstable, narcissistic moron.

There is no greater proof than him saying that he's a stable genius.

Next up, drafter is going to tell us he's skinny.

victor809 wrote:



At least you called him president...it's just gotta sting....:-({|=
victor809
8 years ago

At least you called him president...it's just gotta sting....:-({|=

Kawaksback wrote:



Of course it stings.
If you were smart enough to see what an absolute idiot we have as our president, it would "sting" you as well.

The fact that you're just happy because you've elected a president so completely incompetent that people are "stung" certainly suggests you don't give a rats azz about the health of this country.
DrafterX
8 years ago
The health of this country is very well and getting better everyday... Unless you're a glass half-empty kinda guy... 😟
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