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Speyside
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8 years ago

The Vietnam war memorial.

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Kawak
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8 years ago

Not the only one but very important. Kudos and god bless our hero's

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DrafterX
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8 years ago

There's more than one memorial wall btw.. cheap shot... 😟

Speyside
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8 years ago

No cheap shot intended. I googled memorial walls and you are right. I did not know this. All memorial walls are important. My point was we are at odds about the border wall. Is it so important that it get built or not, maybe. The building of a memorial wall is much more important. When I first saw the Vietnam War Memorial wall it humbled me in a profound way. What is important is those people made the ultimate sacrifice so you and I can live free. If we lived in many other countries we might be killed for our beliefs. Sometimes I forget we are all Americans. Kawak is an American first, somewhere down the line his philosophical views/ political viewpoints come into play. Me too, same for you. Victor, well who knows? And so it goes.

DrafterX
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8 years ago

The Border Wall will protect us from illegal invasion... Nobody is anti-immigration... Although that is what you and other liberal Extremists are pushing... Why do you really want an open border when other immigrants follow the rules to become American citizens..?? 😕

Speyside
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8 years ago

Why don't you want a border wall with Canada? Crazy question. Yes I know. I think a border wall with Mexico is just as crazy. Not an attempt at being an extreme liberal, just what I think. I think illegals will find other ways to get here. They do from many countries that are across an ocean. So why wouldn't they from down south?

DrafterX
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8 years ago

No doubt there are other ways... But the overwhelming access currently is our southern border.. to deny that is denial.. 😟

Speyside
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8 years ago

We will have to agree to disagree. I would say if the mountain won't go to Mohamed, but then you would think I am a Muslim sympathise.

DrafterX
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8 years ago

No, you know I'm right and can't think of a believable retort... It's ok... 😟

tailgater
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8 years ago

#10

Speyside wrote:

Using that logic we should pull all border patrol.
I mean, they'll just get in here anyway.

I'm not a wall proponent. But I'm not completely against it either. If it's built, it would make it MUCH more difficult to get here illegally from the side of our border that is most frequently abused.

I'd rather see a "virtual wall" put in place that strictly forbids hiring illegals and cuts all funding to states or municipalities that support them.
And I mean ALL funding.

But this will never happen because of the human factor.

Which brings us back to an actual wall, and the strong argument in favor of it.

DrafterX
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8 years ago

#11

Just think about the jobs it will create... 😟

Speyside
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8 years ago

#12

If you read my posts you will see I am a proponent of border control. I do not see the wall as an effective deterrent. I totally agree with your virtual wall. Eliminate the incentives for being here illegally. Drafter you do have a valid point on job creation. Though I would rather see job creation through badly needed infrastructure rebuilding.

Buckwheat
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8 years ago

#13

Speyside wrote:

I agree but how are we going to pay for the infrastructure rebuilding? I doubt that a bill funding this work would make it through congress.

I think the most important wall is the one between the church and the state. 🌫

Speyside
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8 years ago

#14

I think you are right. Where would the money come from? The line between church and state has been blurred as of late.

delta1
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8 years ago

#15

High tech wall would be cheaper and more effective...cameras, vibration and motion sensors, aerial surveillance, including monitored drones, more border agents patrolling the accessible areas combined with a greater degree of technological detection in the more difficult terrain...that's another virtual wall that would be cheaper and more effective than a physical wall...

TMCTLT
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8 years ago

#16

Build that BIG Beautiful WALL....get r done.

Drafter,
@ least Allen finally " came out ".....apparently it took moving to Chicago to complete the transition. :-"

Speyside
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8 years ago

#17

More like coming to my senses Paul. I am tired of the conservative dog pile here. People that attack my comments or make sweeping attacks on liberals will be repaid in kind. I think Victor is right in that regard, I have tried nice and it didn't work, why tolerate fools?

TMCTLT
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8 years ago

#18

Speyside wrote:

Alrighty then.....#-o

LMAO @ your conservative dog pile comment however....between yourself Vicki and Bandi it's one cry baby post after another ever since Trump was elected.

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banderl
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8 years ago

#19

Alrighty then.....#-o

LMAO @ your conservative dog pile comment however....between yourself Vicki and Bandi it's one cry baby post after another ever since Trump was elected.

TMCTLT wrote:

We're following your leader, the biggest orange crybaby in the history of the world.

TMCTLT
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8 years ago

#20

We're following your leader, the biggest orange crybaby in the history of the world.

banderl wrote:

Yet so much better than the Black Apologist from Chitcago!!!!! 🍺

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