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dstieger
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8 years ago

#21

Racist tobacconists are the WORST

delta1
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8 years ago

#22

Hank, if ya wants, I can verify the authenticity of the Behike for you...still have my addy?

Hank_The_Tank
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8 years ago

#23

Hank, if ya wants, I can verify the authenticity of the Behike for you...still have my addy?

delta1 wrote:

Funny guy

Thunder.Gerbil
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#24

"This guy sems to know what he's talking about"

Based on what, Hank?

Does his office have many expensive things and does it smell of rich mahogany and Corinthian leather?

Hank_The_Tank
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8 years ago

#25

"This guy sems to know what he's talking about"

Based on what, Hank?

Does his office have many expensive things and does it smell of rich mahogany and Corinthian leather?

Thunder.Gerbil wrote:

Just based on conversations that I have had with him. If it is fake, I feel bad for the 1750 he paid for each of two boxes he bought back in 2011.

bgz
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#26

Just based on conversations that I have had with him. If it is fake, I feel bad for the 1750 he paid for each of two boxes he bought back in 2011.

Hank_The_Tank wrote:

I don't think they went for $1750 back then. I think he overpaid if that's the case.

I think it's more likely he's full of sh17 though (or you being full of sh17 is equally likely).

I would also think the probability is pretty high for this whole story being full of sh17 too.

Just my opinion.

NapalmMan67
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8 years ago

#27

Just based on conversations that I have had with him. If it is fake, I feel bad for the 1750 he paid for each of two boxes he bought back in 2011.

Hank_The_Tank wrote:

And you believe he was just a nice enough guy to give you a $175.00 cigar? For which he way overpaid, real or not.

Current pricing is in the $1100.00/ box range for 56s. Which is way to f*cking much imo. Wish I had bought a few more boxes when they were sub $300 per box. Ahhh well, hindsight.

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Thunder.Gerbil
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8 years ago

#28

Just based on conversations that I have had with him. If it is fake, I feel bad for the 1750 he paid for each of two boxes he bought back in 2011.

Hank_The_Tank wrote:

I honestly don't remember what they cost back in 2011.

Price does not dictate authenticity. I've seen boxes of fake Davidoffs go for many thousands.

I'd be surprised if most of us haven't unknowingly had, be it bought, traded or gifted, a fake Cuban cigar or more along the way. It happens.

I don't know your friend, I haven't seen the cigar you are talking about. I have no idea if it is or is not authentic.

I will say though that the more you argue about something of which you know nothing about, the more of a dipshizzle you look like. Stop while you are only slightly behind. Smoke the cigar, or don't. While there are some caution flags, it's not like any of us can truly tell what it is based on some written text.

Thunder.Gerbil
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8 years ago

#29

And you believe he was just a nice enough guy to give you a $175.00 cigar?
.

NapalmMan67 wrote:

In all fairness, some people out there actually do things like that.

paulkeck
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8 years ago

#30

My question would be how would you tell the difference, been thinking about buying some Cubans to try but if they are fake what's the damn point!

Thunder.Gerbil
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8 years ago

#31

My question would be how would you tell the difference, been thinking about buying some Cubans to try but if they are fake what's the damn point!

paulkeck wrote:

Bad fakes are easy to spot once you have been shown one or two.

Good fakes can be difficult. Especially if you are not familiar with the profile of the cigar.

Not all vendors are honest. Knowing which ones are honest is key when you are starting out. You can then learn from what is authentic.

There are some guides out there on the internet, but I don't think many have been updated in a long time to reflect the new packaging and security measures that Habanos has implemented.

I think Habanos might actually have something on their website. And there is Trevor's website www.cubancigarwebsite.com, but that's just really a list of what's been released, so unless the sizes don't match or the bands are grossly inaccurate, then it's not going to be much good as a "spot a fake tutorial". Ultimately though, those sites are all just pictures. Much more can be learned hands on.

Edited by user 8 years ago | Reason: Not specified

RMAN4443
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8 years ago

#32

Hank, if ya wants, I can verify the authenticity of the Behike for you...still have my addy?

delta1 wrote:

If I didn't know better I'd swear this was a Hank post 🤐

paulkeck
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8 years ago

#33

Thanks Thunder, I will do some homework

deadeyedick
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8 years ago

#34

Just based on conversations that I have had with him. If it is fake, I feel bad for the 1750 he paid for each of two boxes he bought back in 2011.

Hank_The_Tank wrote:

If he paid $1750/box in 2011 he has no idea what he is doing. As has been said they were selling for $286 - $325 depending on size back then. That is what I paid for boxes dated 2011 and it was close to the going rate until wrapper leaf became an issue a few years later.

gummy jones
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8 years ago

#35

#hamk post a pic

Real or fake it is a nice gesture (assuming he thinks it's real)

I always thought their normal price was around thirty bucks a stick.

corey sellers
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8 years ago

#36

I would love to see a pic my FIL got a box for x Mas and yes it was glass top and he gave me one right off the bat really good guy but I had to show him they where fakes I will post a picture of it

Hank_The_Tank
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8 years ago

#37

How do you tell if a 2011 is real? I saw something that newer ones have a holigraphic bar on them, but looked like that started in 2014 (from what I could tell from the cryptic posts.

I will take a picture when I get home and post it. Although I am sure that everyone will say it is a fake, just to screw with me.

Like gummy said, it is a nice gesture either way. I'm not trying to BS or dig a hole whatever BS ThunderGerbil is spewing. Just received a nice gift and wanted to share.

corey sellers
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8 years ago

#38

I will post a picture of the one I have this afternoon so you can see it

Hank_The_Tank
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8 years ago

#39

So I did some more research and was incorrect on the holigraphic bar...it just changed in 2014. Below is what I gathered:

-Lettering is slightly raised.
-Ring of black around head
-Head looks slightly rippled and should have a holographic mini-head inside (but only seen when turned a certain way).
-Front Holigraphic bar should pick-up a lot of color/light.
-Label should be crisp and perfect looking

Anything else I should look for?

Now the question, if I think it is a fake, should I tell the guy. Not sure I would want to know. haha

Edited by user 8 years ago | Reason: Not specified

Thunder.Gerbil
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8 years ago

#40

Hank,

https://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/brand/cohiba

Band F. Click on it to bring up a larger image.

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