tailgater
8 years ago
What's the big deal?

Why are liberals everywhere wetting their collective panties?

A conservative TV host is either friends or a client of a lawyer. Who happens to be the personal lawyer for the sitting POTUS.

The swamp is a relatively small community. There have been endless overlapping affiliations over the years.
Why the conniption over a lawyer? Who is bound by legal privilege?
And a TV host? Who is nothing more than a celebrity?

Seems no matter what happens, when the story is stamped with TRUMP, the left involuntarily clench their ovaries.


But maybe I'm missing something.





victor809
8 years ago
The only particularly questionable thing about it was his continued reporting that the raid on Cohen's offices was somehow illegal or violating Cohen's rights.

He did so with no real legal expertise and it turns out with a very significant stake in trying to discredit meullers raid.

Whether you think it is or not, a very significant population believes what he says is news. And even the damn podcasts I listen to, the people disclose things like "I am the director of the new York planetarium " before giving any opinion or even information tangential to the planetarium.

When providing information on a topic, professionals generally disclose any influences that may be perceived later as impacting the information they choose to disclose.

Now that we find he failed to disclose this back when he was screaming about Cohen's offices being raided, everyone has to wonder what it is he was trying to hide then.
victor809
8 years ago
Tl/dr... people who don't like Hannity smell blood in the water because he's not acting in a manner that a professional journalist with nothing to hide would act.
deadeyedick
8 years ago
Well, it's not the Rose Law Firm so yea.
Abrignac
8 years ago

Tl/dr... people who don't like Hannity smell blood in the water because he's not acting in a manner that a professional journalist with nothing to hide would act.

victor809 wrote:




That's a laugh. I put him in the sane category as Rachael Maddow. Both are nothing but propagandists.
victor809
8 years ago
You're not wrong.
But they attempt to present themselves as credible and as I stated above, even if you think they're laughable there are people who take the things they say as journalistic truth (ie the orange moron in office... who appears to be heavily influenced off the last thing he sees on fox news)

SteveS
8 years ago

Tl/dr... people who don't like Hannity smell blood in the water because he's not acting in a manner that a professional journalist with nothing to hide would act.

victor809 wrote:



I've never seen him on TV or anywhere else ...

however, the era of professionalism in journalism is over and dead ... blatant bias in one direction or the other is pretty much all that can be seen whether on TV or in print ..
frankj1
8 years ago
what has caught my interest, but has not created moisture, are contradictory statements:

a-citing Client/Attorney Privilege.
and
b-he is not my attorney. I am not a client.

if b is true, he has no claim to keep his interactions with Cohen private in this investigation.

Also, he is either spending a ton of rubles or is getting free advertising on Trump TV Network...big time promotions from the POTUS.
Abrignac
8 years ago

what has caught my interest, but has not created moisture, are contradictory statements:

a-citing Client/Attorney Privilege.
and
b-he is not my attorney. I am not a client.

if b is true, he has no claim to keep his interactions with Cohen private in this investigation.

Also, he is either spending a ton of rubles or is getting free advertising on Trump TV Network...big time promotions from the POTUS.

frankj1 wrote:



Going to come down to the definition of attorney/client relationship. Regardless, it's a very, very slippery slope. One that should, imho, err to the side of confidentiality.

Does one have to officially take someone as a client for privilege to exist? What happens to situations where a person consults an attorney about a matter? Suppose the attorney declines the case? Maybe the attorney feels the issue will take more time than said attorney has the ability to devote to the case. What if the attorney has a conflict? Perhaps it a nuanced area of law which the attorney lacks expertise. The prospective client told the attorney about their pediment under the assumption that there was an attorney/client privilege. Should that person now fear that law enforcement, be it local, state or federal seizing those records since the attorney didn't take that person as a client?

Very, very slippery slope indeed.
frankj1
8 years ago

Going to come down to the definition of attorney/client relationship. Regardless, it's a very, very slippery slope. One that should, imho, err to the side of confidentiality.

Does one have to officially take someone as a client for privilege to exist? What happens to situations where a person consults an attorney about a matter? Suppose the attorney declines the case? Maybe the attorney feels the issue will take more time than said attorney has the ability to devote to the case. What if the attorney has a conflict? Perhaps it a nuanced area of law which the attorney lacks expertise. The prospective client told the attorney about their pediment under the assumption that there was an attorney/client privilege. Should that person now fear that law enforcement, be it local, state or federal seizing those records since the attorney didn't take that person as a client?

Very, very slippery slope indeed.

Abrignac wrote:


do you always go to this length to defend public figures with so many what-ifs?
I count 8 of them.

HA!

#9- what if Cohen said Hannity is a client?
Abrignac
8 years ago

do you always go to this length to defend public figures with so many what-ifs?
I count 8 of them.

frankj1 wrote:



I'd feel the same regardless. Having been a LEO, I see where this can tip, actually tun it over, the scales of justice.
frankj1
8 years ago

I'd feel the same regardless. Having been a LEO, I see where this can tip, actually tun it over, the scales of justice.

Abrignac wrote:


in that case, even prouder to know ya!

I find it dumb of Hannity to deny being a client though...except for the fact that it makes his connection to the White House even more of an obvious case of Gov manipulating the press...speaking of slippery slopes, especially with Trump screaming about fake news.
Abrignac
8 years ago

in that case, even prouder to know ya!

I find it dumb of Hannity to deny being a client though...except for the fact that it makes his connection to the White House even more of an obvious case of Gov manipulating the press...speaking of slippery slopes, especially with Trump screaming about fake news.

frankj1 wrote:



Slippery Peaks, valleys and even caves......
frankj1
8 years ago
we really should savor these days.
Abrignac
8 years ago

we really should savor these days.

frankj1 wrote:



We really shoudn't. Politicians were once amiable and were able to find common ground on most issues. Today most are zealots who simply refuse to work with others who don't share their ideology.
victor809
8 years ago
One could say they are doing an excellent job of representing their constituents....
frankj1
8 years ago

We really shoudn't. Politicians were once amiable and were able to find common ground on most issues. Today most are zealots who simply refuse to work with others who don't share their ideology.

Abrignac wrote:


screw the pols, I mean us, me and you.
such unprecedented behavior that is unlikely to be repeated.

It's like an endless bachelor party.
rfenst
8 years ago



When providing information on a topic, professionals generally disclose any influences that may be perceived later as impacting the information they choose to disclose.

Now that we find he failed to disclose this back when he was screaming about Cohen's offices being raided, everyone has to wonder what it is he was trying to hide then.

victor809 wrote:



Nothing to hide so far, but he has damaged his own credibility by not upholding journalistic standards.
rfenst
8 years ago



Does one have to officially take someone as a client for privilege to exist? No.

What happens to situations where a person consults an attorney about a matter? Suppose the attorney declines the case? Maybe the attorney feels the issue will take more time than said attorney has the ability to devote to the case. ACP attaches

What if the attorney has a conflict? Lawyer may have to withdraw from both clients

Perhaps it a nuanced area of law which the attorney lacks expertise. The prospective client told the attorney about their pediment under the assumption that there was an attorney/client privilege. Should that person now fear that law enforcement, be it local, state or federal seizing those records since the attorney didn't take that person as a client? No.

Very, very slippery slope indeed.

Abrignac wrote:




There is no clear-cut always easy answer. Each situation is to be considered on its own merritt.
Abrignac
8 years ago

There is no clear-cut always easy answer. Each situation is to be considered on its own merritt.

rfenst wrote:




Was waiting on you to chime in. Thanks
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