Speyside
8 years ago
On sanctuary cities that is. LMAO!
DrafterX
8 years ago
OK.. just this once... 😟
delta1
8 years ago
Gene363
8 years ago
I light of Russian election tampering and non citizen voting concerns i'm guessing everyone is ready for voter ID and a return to paper ballots.
DrafterX
8 years ago
That's how it's done here... 😟
HuckFinn
8 years ago
Sanctuary policies are legal and protected by the Tenth Amendment.

Amendments, huh, good god y'all
What are they good for
Absolutely nothing, listen to me…

Actually a song 🇨🇮
RMAN4443
8 years ago

Sanctuary policies are legal and protected by the Tenth Amendment.

Amendments, huh, good god y'all
What are they good for
Absolutely nothing, listen to me…

Actually a song 🇨🇮

HuckFinn wrote:



….Again I smell Ka-Ka.....The rules of immigration were reserved to the States through the 10th Amendment until the first Federal law was enacted in 1875. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled the following year that immigration regulation was an exclusive Federal responsibility.Congress established the Immigration Service in 1891, which was the first time the Federal government took an active role.

https://www.theamericanview.com/constitution-course-supplemental-assignments/what-authority-does-the-u-s-constitution-give-the-federal-government-regarding-immigration/ 


HuckFinn
8 years ago

….Again I smell Ka-Ka.....The rules of immigration were reserved to the States through the 10th Amendment until the first Federal law was enacted in 1875. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled the following year that immigration regulation was an exclusive Federal responsibility.Congress established the Immigration Service in 1891, which was the first time the Federal government took an active role.

https://www.theamericanview.com/constitution-course-supplemental-assignments/what-authority-does-the-u-s-constitution-give-the-federal-government-regarding-immigration/ 


RMAN4443 wrote:


From the National Review

https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/11/sanctuary-cities-states-rights-honot-tenth-amendment/ 

Excerpt:
That isn’t what Trump or the voters who support him want to hear. But it’s what support for the Constitution demands. Perhaps Bob Dole, the ultimate GOP insider even if he is long retired, is exactly the sort of person the Republican base rejected when it chose Trump in 2016. But his passion for the Tenth Amendment still ought to command their respect — and to compel them to see that a true conservative must grudgingly accept that the court was right to strike down Trump’s executive order.

The reason is that pesky concept of federalism enshrined in the Tenth Amendment.

Maybe you're not wiping right.
Speyside
8 years ago
RMAN, you sure know your sh*t. Were you naturally full of it or did it take a while?
RMAN4443
8 years ago

From the National Review

https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/11/sanctuary-cities-states-rights-honot-tenth-amendment/ 

Excerpt:
That isn’t what Trump or the voters who support him want to hear. But it’s what support for the Constitution demands. Perhaps Bob Dole, the ultimate GOP insider even if he is long retired, is exactly the sort of person the Republican base rejected when it chose Trump in 2016. But his passion for the Tenth Amendment still ought to command their respect — and to compel them to see that a true conservative must grudgingly accept that the court was right to strike down Trump’s executive order.

The reason is that pesky concept of federalism enshrined in the Tenth Amendment.

Maybe you're not wiping right.

HuckFinn wrote:



Not sure what your issue is Spey???


All excerpts from your link huck...but you go ahead and put your support into those sanctuary cities

Sanctuary cities are wrong to defy federal immigration law

Sanctuary cities are appalling

That a San Francisco court would pull that argument out of its hat is infuriating to both the administration and Republicans who rightly view as outrageous those who would seize on any pretext to defend illegal immigrants from the authorities


The sanctuary-city movement is deplorable, and Republicans rightly sympathize with Trump’s desire to inflict penalties on Democrats who act as if they can disobey laws they don’t like with impunity while still having their collective snouts planted firmly in the federal trough.

The Constitution guarantees the right of the people of the states to rule themselves and to exercise power in areas that are not the province of the national government. That does not give states or cities the right to nullify federal laws they don’t like or to prevent Washington’s agents or the military from enforcing them.




HuckFinn
8 years ago




All excerpts from your link huck...but you go ahead and put your support into those sanctuary cities

Sanctuary cities are wrong to defy federal immigration law

Sanctuary cities are appalling






RMAN4443 wrote:


Yeah..I wasn't defending anything.

I was just stating the fact that they're protected by the Tenth Amendment.

I get it. You think they're appalling. Tell Congress. I can't help you.

Here's the link to the National Review article AGAIN:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/11/sanctuary-cities-states-rights-honot-tenth-amendment/ 
Speyside
8 years ago
RMAN, you want to insult people, I think I'll insult back. Your chit comments aren't funny, they are stupid. You seem to think you are funny. I don't. You belong to the conservative tribe here. You insult liberals daily. Why wouldn't you expect insults in kind?
RMAN4443
8 years ago

RMAN, you want to insult people, I think I'll insult back. Your chit comments aren't funny, they are stupid. You seem to think you are funny. I don't. You belong to the conservative tribe here. You insult liberals daily. Why wouldn't you expect insults in kind?

Speyside wrote:


I really don't expect or not expect anything here...

Go check for all the insults huck tosses around.....puhleeze…...huck told me he's not insulted by me at all....I guess he meant "My pal Spey will be along soon to be "mean" to you soon..." I might just start crying myself to sleep now...
I don't insult "liberals"(maybe some liberal people), but what I insult are "stupid' people....

What did,people want from Trump/Putin meeting? Trump to go over and jump on him and go 2 out 3 falls? Or say wait until after the elections and I'll have more flexibility?
Open up the borders for one and all? Whose going to pay? Do Russians and others like the Tsarnev's get to come and go as they please?
Allow states to release criminals rather than report illegals to ICE, so they can go out and commit more crimes,maybe cause a death or two?
After the whole Bill Clinton "Affair" as President, and the outcome and cost, Who cares if Trump got a "little" 12 years before he even thought about running for President? definition of is is Trump?
Ok,you do what you do...maybe you and huck can team up and come up with some EPIC insults working together...as a team, for the good of the Country and all


Rick, you want this? I think it's stupid and petty. But this what you want?

This started when you made some bizarre analogy that I thought was nuts and said I'd lost respect for you. Harsh? With all that goes on in this nuthouse?
And anyway, why would you give a chit who or what I respect??

Twice you've ignored my apologies. So, not sure wtf you want.

I don't even comment on your posts. You comment on mine.

You're pissed. But I tried. Twice. So ...what's next? You want to try and piss me off?
You want to see if insults are gonna get to me?
Fluck that man. I'm 68. That ain't happening.
Only people whose opinions of me rile me still are all dead people.
I'm always hopeful that I can fix relationships I have with the living.

So. Don't know how to bridge this gap.
But know that insulting my dad or members of my family is meaningless to me.
I don't know you. Should insults like that matter to anyone? I don't think so.

I say what I think and feel here. Not trying to spew anything.
If I come off as a jerk to you I can't help that. Just doing me.
I'm sure the only one who benefits from my rantings and bs is me anyway..

I'm dont follow any media's fake news agenda or anyones agenda except, well, my own.

But like I said, insulting me is just gonna make me unwilling to ever wanna reconcile.
Of course not a threat. Just the way it is.

Oh well, 3rd try, Rick, I'm sorry I said I'd lost respect for you. Shouldn't have.

HuckFinn wrote:






RMAN4443 wrote:
Huck, your giving yourself way to much credit....I'm 58 years old myself, and until a few months ago I didn't even know you existed...like I told you when you PM'd me about the respect thing-Don't worry about it- Your respect means very little to me....I don't care if you lost respect gained respect or have any respect for me at all..I haven't been crying myself to sleep since you said it...Not worried about your desire to reconcile

I have a T-shirt that says it better...Fuch You,I Have Enough Friends....

Enough said....have a great day

HuckFinn wrote:

Fair nuff
RMAN4443
8 years ago
,,,and to quell one of the epic tag team insults you will undoubtedly respond with....yes, Trump does and says stupid things
HuckFinn
8 years ago
Rick, it's not my intention or even my style to insult anyone here or anywhere.
I do it here sure, but only when someone insults me first. Or tries to get under my skin.
It's not something I personally enjoy.
Believe it or not.

I have strong opinions. I piss people off here.
But, this is a primarily a conservative site, so...

I'm probably not going to be winning the most congenial award.

Anyway. I try to support my opinions with facts. I look to see what conservative sites are saying believing their opinions will carry more weight in a place like this.
Not claiming success, just relating my honest intentions.

I'm still optimistic that one day more people will agree actual facts matter.
Cause I think we've lost that.

I've never summarily stated that your opinions are stupid. I might think they are sometimes but id rather try to change your mind than enrage it.

I was raised to respect everyone. It takes a lot for me to lose respect for someone, but when someone exits the debate to personalize stuff, yeah, it's game on. I'm human.

Given a real choice?, I'd rather advance the dialogue, maybe come to some understanding, even agree to disagree than even win an argument.

These are some bizarre and stressful times. Maybe I'm not helping, I dunno.

To me, it looks like Americans are building this Tower of Babel, and everyone's yelling and no one understands a word being said.




delta1
8 years ago
I vowed to be civil a couple of weeks ago...haven't needed to apologize yet today...
RMAN4443
8 years ago

I vowed to be civil a couple of weeks ago...haven't needed to apologize yet today...

delta1 wrote:


Don't think it hasn't been noticed...your doing a fantastic job...a shining example to the rest of us...=d> =d>
keep up the good work...🍺
delta1
8 years ago

Delta, Drafter has a very salient point. Here is my take on it.
Drafter if your point was different feel free to correct me. Our country is based on the rule of law, is it not? Illegal aliens by law do not have the right to vote, nor should they. By giving them any voting rights a precedent is being set. This precedent could eventually lead to complete voting rights for illegal aliens. Also as an aside let's get a term straight. They are not illegal immigrants. They are illegal aliens. Voting rights are one of the most important rights American citizens have. I wish SCOTUS becomes involved with even local school voting rights for illegal aliens. They should strictly base their decision on the constitution.

Speyside wrote:



I'm not supporting this effort, but it seems to be a local issue there...my guess is that there will be a legal challenge, and maybe all of your points will be raised and the "illegal immigrant voting right" will be repealed.

In CA, illegals have become an important component of the economy, providing a supply of low-cost labor upon which the state's engine, agriculture, depends, as well as the tourism/hospitality industry...that seems to be the root of our bi-polarism over the issue...

undocumented people prolly vote in HOA elections and other private elections...
Speyside
8 years ago
I still think it is small minded on your part, but if Huck is fine with it who am I to quibble? Carry on.

Disagree with you about Helsinki.
Agree with yo about borders.
Not sure of your point about Tsarnev, please elaborate.
Agree with you about ICE, and would throw sanctuary cities in there as wrong and illegal.
Agree with you about Bill Clinton, and believe the senate should have voted him out of office.
Agree with you about Trumps infidelities.

Helsinki, my problem is 3 fold. I think meeting with Putin was as worthless as meeting with Kim Jung Un. Trump said he believed Putin over our security agencies. Trump said he was considering allowing Russia to question American citizens.

Tsarnev, what do you think could have stopped that?
Mr. Jones
8 years ago
San Fran is full of ANARCHISTS AND MOHO'S....

IT IS also filled with illegal aliens and homeless dudes who "drop trow" and take a DUMP ON THE SIDE WALKS...

THEY PISS ON EVERYTHING LIKE A DOG MARKING THEIR TERRITORY....

ONLY MORONS would give illegal aliens drivers licenses
And voting rights...
Bunch of bull CRAP if you ask me.
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