tailgater
7 years ago

unless he also tans orange

frankj1 wrote:




Not what he meant, but I like the way you think.

tailgater
7 years ago

So I was with trumpenfeurher on this at first.
Then the woman pointed out that he's doing this without due process.

That means that any of us, based on association with any group our current president does not like (or future president) can be kept from returning to our country?

It's... Not great.
Government needs to act in a legal and procedural manner. There needs to be some sort of trial to assess the level of her association, as well as establish whether association with a terrorist group is a crime which would allow citizenship to be stripped....

Can't wild west this shiat

victor809 wrote:



I think siding with the known enemy during what is essentially a war isn't merely banning her because we don't like her.

In fact, I know it isn't.

victor809
7 years ago
Honestly, is that written into the constitution?
We are a nation of laws... Even if it's spelled out, all citizens are subject to a fair trial. What if her Twitter feed or whatever the hell she claimed she loved ISIS on was hacked? What if she was drugged or her children were held hostage...or whatever.

I'm not saying that I believe any of the above, but a trial is where an individual can defend themselves and their guilt be properly determined, then the appropriate punishment applied.

This is how our government is supposed to run.
Speyside
7 years ago
Should she be considered civilian, or military in regards to a trial?
Burner02
7 years ago

Should she be considered civilian, or military in regards to a trial?

Speyside wrote:



Not an issue if she remains in Syria.
dstieger
7 years ago
Trump Tweet less than 2 weeks ago:

"The United States is asking Britain, France, Germany and other European allies to take back over 800 ISIS fighters that we captured in Syria and put them on trial. The Caliphate is ready to fall. The alternative is not a good one in that we will be forced to release them........"
frankj1
7 years ago
Bob Dylan wrote:

I married Isis on the fifth day of may
But I do not hold on to her very long
So I cut off my hair and I rode straight away
For the wild unknown country where I could not go wrong

I came to a high place of darkness and light
The dividing line ran through the center of town
I hitched up my pony to a post on the right
Went in to a laundry to wash my clothes down
A man in the corner approached me for a match
I knew right away he was not ordinary
He said, are you lookin' for somethin' easy to catch?
I said, I got no money he said, that ain't necessary

We set out that night for the cold in the north
I gave him my blanket, he gave me his word
I said, where are we goin' he said we'd be back by the fourth
I said, "that's the best news that I've ever heard
I was thinkin' about turquoise, I was thinkin' about gold
I was thinkin' about diamonds and the world's biggest necklace
As we rode through the canyons, through the devilish cold
I was thinkin' about Isis, how she thought I was so reckless
How she told me that one day we would meet up again,
And things would be different the next time we wed,
If I only could hang on and just be her friend
I still can't remember all the best things she said

We came to the pyramids all embedded in ice
He said, "there's a body I'm tryin' to find
If I carry it out it'll bring a good price
'Cause then that I knew what he had on his mind
The wind it was howlin' and the snow was outrageous
We chopped through the night and we chopped through the dawn
When he died I was hopin' that it wasn't contagious
But I made up my mind that I had to go on
I picked up his body and I dragged him inside,
Threw him down in the hole and I put back the cover
I said a quick prayer and I felt satisfied
Then I went back to find Isis just to tell her I love her

She was there in the meadow where the creek used to rise
Blinded by sleep and in need of a bed,
I came in from the east with the sun in my eyes
I cursed her one time then I rode on ahead
She said, where ya been, I said, no place special
She said, you look different I said, well, yes
She said, you been gone I said, that's only natural
She said, you gonna stay I said, if you want you me, yeah
Isis, oh, Isis, you mystical child
What drives me to you is what drives me insane
I still can remember the way that you smiled
On the fifth day of may in the drizzlin' rain
opelmanta1900
7 years ago

Trump Tweet less than 2 weeks ago:

"The United States is asking Britain, France, Germany and other European allies to take back over 800 ISIS fighters that we captured in Syria and put them on trial. The Caliphate is ready to fall. The alternative is not a good one in that we will be forced to release them........"

dstieger wrote:


Right, but no one is asking them to take the women back... And most places aren't because they can't be tried for anything... But they can be left behind to dodge mortars and pick grains of sand out of every crack and crevice at zero cost to their home country...
dstieger
7 years ago
Don't know about most of them, but I think that Muthana (and others) could/should be tried. The ones that don't have much/any evidence of warring...I say let them back to the countries of origin.

I suspect that we're better off with them reintegrating instead of wandering the desert looking for another radical group to latch on to. Sure, there's probably a few that might even cause some trouble back in a Western country. Maybe I don't know enough about the typical woman we're talking about, but I have to think they're in the minority. I'm ok with some sort of 'probation' or years of some sort of 'monitoring'. But leaving them (and their kids) alone in the desert doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.
DrafterX
7 years ago
MOAB... It's not just for breakfas anymore... 😟
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
I don't think there's a legitimate fear of the women left behind in these places joining a new radical group... Thankfully, life is hard in the desert, and if you don't work hard at it everyday, you die... She'll be busy busy trying to live until she dies...

On the other hand, if we let her come home, easy times make soft people... She'll end up busying herself with spreading anti American sentiments and propaganda...

I'm not heartless on the matter... As soon as war breaks out in whatever patch of sand she's dwelling in, I'm all in favor of dropping crates of food and Superbowl t-shirts that predicted the wrong winner...
victor809
7 years ago
Still seems to me that we need a trial before talking about taking away a right every American has... Entering the country...
DrafterX
7 years ago
Just throw her in Gitmo... The next Dem President will let her in... And prolly pay her restitution and stuff... 😟
tailgater
7 years ago

Still seems to me that we need a trial before talking about taking away a right every American has... Entering the country...

victor809 wrote:



Let her enter.
Then arrest her for aiding and abetting.

Her three husbands were in ISIS. She knew what they were doing.

victor809
7 years ago
As long as there is a trial I have no problem.
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
Can I be judge, jury, and designated cùnt kicker?
DrafterX
7 years ago
Sure... I wouldn't get my foot anywhere near that myself.. 😟
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
I'll double up on socks... And I'm going steel toe...
RMAN4443
7 years ago
Maybe she'll take some of her own advice and build herself a vest and explode herself...8-[
Gene363
7 years ago

Maybe she'll take some of her own advice and build herself a vest and explode herself...8-[

RMAN4443 wrote:



I heard she planned that for her welcome home celebration. 😰
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