delta1
7 years ago
I guess the cons are not interested in reading the Mueller Report...they seem to all be saying the same wrong things...things that Trump and Trump media keeps repeating...


Drafter is right: say something often enough and some people think it's the truth...
DrafterX
7 years ago
That's what I heard... 😟
frankj1
7 years ago

No obstruction because, wait for it, you can't prove a negative.

I've read 3 different MSM versions of the "facts" and they all concluded the same thing: Trump might be innocent of collusion, but Mueller can't prove that he didn't obstruct.

Can't prove that he didn't.

Say it one more time.


These f*ck-wads would be humorous if so many from the left and center-left didn't agree with them.


tailgater wrote:


it's in Mueller's report. Trump clearly tried to get it done and failed...which saved him.
DrafterX
7 years ago
He was discussing options after being falsely accused... He coulda just called us... 😟
ZRX1200
7 years ago
^ yup.

When all you have is a process crime what are you investigating
tailgater
7 years ago

I guess the cons are not interested in reading the Mueller Report...they seem to all be saying the same wrong things...things that Trump and Trump media keeps repeating...


Drafter is right: say something often enough and some people think it's the truth...

delta1 wrote:



Three words:
Russia
Russia
Russia


Until it's not Russia, of course.


tailgater
7 years ago

it's in Mueller's report. Trump clearly tried to get it done and failed...which saved him.

frankj1 wrote:



Obstruction.

Trump is guilty of wanting to stop a bogus investigation. An investigation that is PROVEN to be bogus.

Hillary is not guilty of destroying classified emails on an illegal private server in violation of espionage protocols.

I gotta tell you, it's difficult to keep up with the left's narrative.



frankj1
7 years ago
#27
that is not close to what was "proven".

interpretations, slants, twists by either and all partisan sides aren't needed to get the points of the report. It is clear reading, straight forward writing. better off to stay away from opinions of those with dogs in the fight, actually, as they cloud the clarity...in my opinion.

So, it was proven there were countless contacts between his crowd and Russia (which has also been proven to have meddled on his behalf) before, during and after the campaign, and that should be alarming enough for any American to want it investigated to the point of deciding for prosecution or not. But without the investigation, that could not be determined.

I looked up bogus, this case does not apply.

Mueller declined to definitively state Trump should be charged (leaving that to Congress) but clearly stated the "facts" do not exonerate him as he was definitely involved (ending the bogus claims)...that should, by definition, end the quotes floating around of made up baseless charges and lies..to be "involved" meant something existed, something happened, and tons of that stuff is delineated in the report.

He also was definitely involved in attempts to thwart the investigation, threats that failed due to the non-compliance of people that, for the most part, he had appointed.

"if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President DID NOT COMMIT OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, WE WOULD SO STATE"...from the report. Capitals are mine.
No twists needed. Nothing ambiguous. The investigators did not find that the facts cleared Trump.

and the Hillary mentions belie the fake confidence.

You really should read what's available...without emotion. If you were to read this as if it were about another country, you'd never come to the same conclusions
DrafterX
7 years ago
I did not have 'sexual relations with that woman... 😟
RMAN4443
7 years ago
me neither....8-[
frankj1
7 years ago

I did not have 'sexual relations with that Russian woman...Donald J. Trump 😟

DrafterX wrote:



this one might be true.
frankj1
7 years ago

me neither....8-[

RMAN4443 wrote:


I woulda if I was drunk enough
delta1
7 years ago
frank is correct...the truth is plain to see, if one chooses to read the report...our laws authorize law enforcement to conduct an investigation if there is probable cause to do so...probable cause exists here, in the conspiracy to coordinate with a foreign government to interfere in the elections of 2016...the Mueller report specifies numerous links between Russians, some of whom were involved in meddling activities, and members of the Trump campaign...NOT A BOGUS investigation...the fact that there was not enough evidence to meet the "guilt beyond a reasonable doubt" standard to bring charges does not mean there was no suspicious or criminal conduct...

dstieger asked the appropriate question in another post...if we allow people to obstruct any investigation, no investigation will result in truthful findings of criminal conduct or innocence (excuse my paraphrase)


cons were outraged, and still are, when the same DOJ/FBI investigated Hillary and concluded that there was not enough evidence to prosecute, and yet they are exulting in the "findings" that there was "no collusion", so there can't be obstruction...this is very flawed, partisan thinking...

I am positive that all the cons who give Trump a pass after the Mueller Report was issued would be singing a different tune if we just excise the name of the focus of the report: "Trump" and substitute "Hillary"........................lock her up...


edit: if you need a sleep aid, read the report...I've dozed off several times, and I've only read about 55 pp...clinical law enforcement "just the facts ma'am" prose...we need Robert Ludlum to turn this into a page-turner...
DrafterX
7 years ago
What happened to Schiff's concrete evidence of collusion..?? What about the conspiracy to start the investigation..??

It's not over.. as much as most of the nation would hope.. there will still be fishing investigations instead of investigating an actual crime... Ya, Trump said some stuff but he's said lots of stuff.. there is no crime... 😟
frankj1
7 years ago

What happened to Schiff's concrete evidence of collusion..?? What about the conspiracy to start the investigation..??

It's not over.. as much as most of the nation would hope.. there will still be fishing investigations instead of investigating an actual crime... Ya, Trump said some stuff but he's said lots of stuff.. there is no crime... 😟

DrafterX wrote:


I've been talking only about Mueller.
There have been on-going investigations and stuff for a while too.
DrafterX
7 years ago
True.. true.. but I'm just stirring da pot... 😟
frankj1
7 years ago
dang it x!
you always get me.
DrafterX
7 years ago
wataugariver
7 years ago

I heard he may have pulled his mattress tag off sometime in the past.

deadeyedick wrote:



A soggy mattress tag...in Moscow.
frankj1
7 years ago

A soggy mattress tag...in Moscow.

wataugariver wrote:


you do know you may get buried, right?
If you've been lurking for a while, you should be familiar with my (copyright pending) schtick...


(fill in the blank) years? (fill in the blank) years!
and it takes this dusty old thread to get you to surface?
you didn't write, you didn't call...your mother and I were worried sick.
A lot you care, rotten kid that you are.
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