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victor809
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6 years ago

Can our moron of a president even do this?

Scratch that question.... of course he's not supposed to. But he probably will somehow get away with it.

Donald J. Trump
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Breaking: Michigan sends absentee ballots to 7.7 million people ahead of Primaries and the General Election. This was done illegally and without authorization by a rogue Secretary of State. I will ask to hold up funding to Michigan if they want to go down this Voter Fraud path!..

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
State of Nevada “thinks” that they can send out illegal vote by mail ballots, creating a great Voter Fraud scenario for the State and the U.S. They can’t! If they do, “I think” I can hold up funds to the State. Sorry, but you must not cheat in elections. @RussVought45 @USTreasury

I thought the republicans were advocates of state's rights?

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DrMaddVibe
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6 years ago

Are you seriously backing vote by mail?

teedubbya
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6 years ago

Trump voted by mail.

victor809
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6 years ago

I seem to recall a number of posters here in cbidland bragging about voting by mail.

Ironically, that's even irrelevant. Michigan is sending out the applications for absentee ballots. Of course, twitler has no time for actual facts.

tailgater
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6 years ago

I don't know the law.

Is it illegal for states to send out mail-in ballots for federal elections without federal consent?

victor809
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6 years ago

I don't know the law.

Is it illegal for states to send out mail-in ballots for federal elections without federal consent?

tailgater wrote:

I don't know the law either. My best understanding (very superficial) is that the state runs their own election with FEC oversight.

So it may depend on what rules the FEC has, what they forbid etc. But given that these weren't even absentee ballots mailed out, but applications for such.... I'm going to bet (just a guess) that the application meets FEC requirements, or is at least intended to.

BuckyB93
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6 years ago

Since I live in a state where my national election ballot really doesn't matter, I'll sell my mail in ballot to the highest bidder. The opening bid is a 5er of Padron 2000 maduro.

(If anyone thinks that people who don't care about the election process won't be selling their mail in ballot for cash, booze, smokes... then they are incredibly naive)

HockeyDad
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6 years ago

California’s Governor Newsom signed an executive order that all registered voters will receive a vote by mail ballot.

In related news, CNN is now declaring Joe Biden the winner in California and all new tax initiatives passed as well!

teedubbya
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6 years ago

BuckyB93 wrote:

And that would be a crime. Folks pick and choose when to break laws and when not to. If we are to start going down the path of what they might do to break the law then I shudder to think about how it could apply to gun laws among other things.

Trump voted by mail.

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BuckyB93
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6 years ago

#10

Ahhh... I get it now. Why worry about voter fraud, it's going to happen any way so why not just make it easier.

teedubbya
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6 years ago

#11

Not what I said but Trump voted by mail.

rfenst
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6 years ago

#12

Trump voted by mail.

teedubbya wrote:

I'll be voting by mail unless this covid crap is under better control by the time my primaries and elections come long.

opelmanta1900
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6 years ago

#13

I've said here before, a Hispanic friend of mine and his 16 cousins are required by their grandmother - who lives in the country illegally - to hand their mail in ballots to her.... She fills them out as she sees fit and mails em back in...

BuckyB93
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6 years ago

#14

Not what I said but Trump voted by mail.

teedubbya wrote:

And your point is?

Lot's of people vote my mail via absentee ballot. They have to make the effort to request them. Blank ballots aren't just sent out like bulk mail coupons to everyone on the eligible voter lists.

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BuckyB93
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6 years ago

#15

opelmanta1900 wrote:

Their loss. They could probably get some scratch for the blank ballots if offered to the right people.

rfenst
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6 years ago

#16

1 person, 1 vote. The basis for an individual's vote for a candidate is solely up to that voter (for any reason), so long as there is no cohesion or other illegality. Those men have done nothing wrong by taking their grandmother's advice how to vote.

BuckyB93
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6 years ago

#17

So you see absolutely nothing wrong with what opel described? That's a pretty cut and dry example of fraud.

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teedubbya
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6 years ago

#18

I do. How does she require it?

opelmanta1900
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6 years ago

#19

rfenst wrote:

In California, the situation I described is criminal...

victor809
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6 years ago

#20

And your point is?

Lot's of people vote my mail via absentee ballot. They have to make the effort to request them. Blank ballots aren't just sent out like bulk mail coupons to everyone on the eligible voter lists.

BuckyB93 wrote:

It doesn't appear that was done in Michigan either. And Nevada appears to have only mailed absentee ballots to "active registered voters", for the Primary.

To pretend that either state is mailing ballots to every eligible voter is simply dishonest.

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