Speyside
5 years ago
Both will be produced to maximize the speed of vaccinating the country if the storage issue can be worked out for Pfizer BioNTech. Due to certain variables caused by a quick phase 3 we cannot yet really say which is better.
frankj1
5 years ago

Not gonna take it... don't see a need for it unless you're in the "at-risk" group. Mass vaccination without all of the rigorous testing all other vaccines go through? For a virus that kills very few? Doesn't sound fishy to me at all... totally cool, right?

As George H.W. Bush said; Not gon' do it... (interesting note, he was talking about new taxes and he did do it. I am completely serious, though).

MACS wrote:


let's be honest...the loss of rigorous testing and stuff was in hopes to win an election, not save lives.
MACS
5 years ago

let's be honest...the loss of rigorous testing and stuff was in hopes to win an election, not save lives.

frankj1 wrote:



Or it might have been because no matter what he did he'd be criticized by the media? If he hurried it... bad. If he didn't... bad. If he found a happy medium... bad.

Put that glass of kool-aid down, Frank... it's spiked.
HockeyDad
5 years ago

let's be honest...the loss of rigorous testing and stuff was in hopes to win an election, not save lives.

frankj1 wrote:



If there was a lack of rigorous testing it was to save lives. We have over 80,000,000 dead so far from Covid.
clintCigar
5 years ago
This is Commie 13 approved
Speyside
5 years ago
Is California lockdown code for " Lock her up ".
Speyside
5 years ago
That helps with over population. Now get started on the rest of the world. Keep up the good work! And fix Drafter a sammich damn it!!
Smooth light
5 years ago
Only 6% direct covid death all the rest preconditions, CDC report, get paid more for covid death's, it's just flim-flam give me the money man, it's a shame to make money off the fear of death, and death it self.

frankj1
5 years ago

Or it might have been because no matter what he did he'd be criticized by the media? If he hurried it... bad. If he didn't... bad. If he found a happy medium... bad.

Put that glass of kool-aid down, Frank... it's spiked.

MACS wrote:


news flash. Trump hasn't attended a covid briefing in MONTHS!
It's an annoyance to him. An obstacle in the way of his only concern...consolidation of power.
Smooth light
5 years ago
VP job! More like delegate. Leaders don't micromanage, ain't got time to play 'under cover boss' or pandering to the whims of the urinalournalis.
frankj1
5 years ago
HockeyDad
5 years ago

what VP?

frankj1 wrote:



VP Biden
frankj1
5 years ago

VP Biden

HockeyDad wrote:


I heard he showed up but they wouldn't let him in the briefings
Brewha
5 years ago

As a wordsmith I would have accepted either. 🤣

I'm absolutely over it, Frank. 15 day lockdown to slow the spread turned into mass panic for what? Less than 2% of people are dying. The "cure" is worse than the disease.

MACS wrote:


2 out of 100 die and you are good with it?

You are a cold mf MACS.
HockeyDad
5 years ago
The cure is worse than the disease.

Heart disease and cancer has each killed more this year than the combination of Covid, with Covid, presumed Covid, was once near Covid, and quacked like Covid.

Nobody asked anyone to put down that cigarette or Big Mac.
frankj1
5 years ago

The cure is worse than the disease.

Heart disease and cancer has each killed more this year than the combination of Covid, with Covid, presumed Covid, was once near Covid, and quacked like Covid.

Nobody asked anyone to put down that cigarette or Big Mac.

HockeyDad wrote:


would you snicker at a preventive measure if they were contagious though?
Certainly there has been zillions of warnings about the dangers of Big Macs and cigs, but you can't have your life endangered sitting at the same table for 15 minutes with a stranger eating a Big Mac or smoking a Marlboro.
MACS
5 years ago

news flash. Trump hasn't attended a covid briefing in MONTHS!
It's an annoyance to him. An obstacle in the way of his only concern...consolidation of power.

frankj1 wrote:



Consolidation of power? What does that even mean? All the sh*t the idiot libtards (redundant) said he was going to do never happened. Didn't start wars with anyone (brought troops back home). Nobody lost freedom (until dems insisted on covid lockdowns). Nobody was "put back in chains".

Minorities were better off. Middle class was better off. Stock market hit records. Peace treaties were signed... The guy is helping America and Americans. Please tell us what his "consolidation of power" agenda is. I'd really like to know.
frankj1
5 years ago
there's a list of things, many that are common to dictators when they take over

trashing free press
trashing intellectuals (science/medicine etc)
singling out specific groups to blame (ethnic, religious or other)
trashing judicial system
never naming permanent department heads (to avoid third party checks and balances approval)
firing even temporary department heads who show loyalty to country over POTUS


there are many more, but I'll never get you to agree.


HockeyDad
5 years ago

there's a list of things, many that are common to dictators when they take over

trashing free press
trashing intellectuals (science/medicine etc)
singling out specific groups to blame (ethnic, religious or other)
trashing judicial system
never naming permanent department heads (to avoid third party checks and balances approval)
firing even temporary department heads who show loyalty to country over POTUS


there are many more, but I'll never get you to agree.


frankj1 wrote:



So on January 20 you will be admitting you’re completely wrong?
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