8trackdisco
a year ago

https://thenewstalkers.com/community/discussion/42460/phony-baloney-the-9-fakest-fake-news-checkers

jeebling wrote:



Couldn't find a listing on that site.

DrMaddVibe
a year ago



Context for your Content. Am confident you know the background of Zero Hedge. But for those that don't know their angle, this might be helpful to them. And of course the link is provided at the bottom.




CONSPIRACY-PSEUDOSCIENCE
Sources in the Conspiracy-Pseudoscience category may publish unverifiable information that is not always supported by evidence. These sources may be untrustworthy for credible/verifiable information; therefore, fact-checking and further investigation is recommended on a per-article basis when obtaining information from these sources. See all Conspiracy-Pseudoscience sources.

Overall, we rate ZeroHedge an extreme right-biased conspiracy website based on the promotion of false/misleading/debunked information that routinely denigrates the left.

Detailed Report
Bias Rating: RIGHT CONSPIRACY/PSEUDOSCIENCE
Factual Reporting: LOW
Country: Bulgaria
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rating: MOSTLY FREE
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

History
Launched in 2009, ZeroHedge or Zero Hedge is a finance blog founded by Colin Lokey, also known as “Tyler Durden,” Daniel Ivandjiiski, and Tim Backshall. According to a Bloomberg Interview, the ZeroHedge founders/authors were anonymous until 2016. A Professional Service Subscription is required to read the rest of Bloomberg’s interview; however, a New Yorker article also covered their history.

ZeroHedge wrote a rebuttal article regarding the Bloomberg interview that can be found here. A quote reads: “Zero Hedge hired Colin after he approached us over a year ago begging for a job after being fired with cause from Seeking Alpha, following a fight with a co-worker.”

On 02/15/2022, U.S. intelligence officials accused Zero Hedge of amplifying Kremlin propaganda targeting Ukrainians and taking direction from Russian spies. Zero Hedge denies the claim.

Read our profile on Bulgaria’s government and media.

Funded by / Ownership
The website is registered in Bulgaria under the name Georgi Georgiev, a business partner of Krassimir Ivandjiiski.


According to Rationalwiki, the only writer “conclusively” identified is “Dan Ivandjiiski, who conducts public interviews on behalf of Zero Hedge.” The blog generates revenue from online advertising and subscriptions.

Analysis / Bias
A quote from a New Yorker article summarizes the blog’s political stance, which Lokey told Bloomberg is: “Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry= dunce. Vladimir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft.”

ZeroHedge’s content has been classified as “alt-right” and has been criticized for presenting conspiracy theories.

In review, ZeroHedge publishes pro-right wing/Trump articles such as Pat Buchanan: “Trump Calls Off Cold War II.” As well as fake news stories regarding liberals: Anti-Trump Protesters Bused Into Austin, Chicago.

Editorial content is written under the pseudonym Tyler Durden and usually focuses on conspiracies related to economic collapse. Zero Hedge sources from factually mixed think tanks such as The Mises Institute, which promotes Austrian (Anarcho-Capitalism) economics. Finally, during the Coronavirus pandemic, they have frequently promoted false and misleading information, as evidenced by failed fact checks below.

Failed Fact Checks
Says China “stole Coronavirus from Canada and weaponized it into a Bioweapon.” – False
Craigslist ad proof counterprotesters at a white nationalist rally “paid to make chaos”? – False
It’s now against the law in California to shower and do laundry on the same day. – Mostly False
A “newly uncovered” photograph reveals Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was crying over an empty parking lot, not detained migrant children, at a protest in Texas. – False
“The Ukrainian government just indicted the Burisma gas company & named Hunter Biden for accepting millions of dollars from a slush fund.” – False
During the last hundred years the temperature increased about 0.1°C because of carbon dioxide. The human contribution was 0.01°C. – Incorrect
New Study Confirms EVs Considerably Worse For Climate Than Diesel Cars – Inaccurate
This coronavirus genome contained sequences of another virus […] the HIV virus (AIDS virus) – Inaccurate
Coronavirus contains ‘HIV insertions’ – Inaccurate
Fabricated genetic sequences used to support the hypothesis the virus arose naturally – False
”Pfizer launches final study for COVID drug that’s suspiciously similar to ‘horse paste’” ivermectin. – False
A preprint of an ivermectin study in the Brazilian city of Itajaí found that prophylactic ivermectin reduced COVID-19 hospitalization and mortality by half. – Unsupported
A new report estimates that 26.6 million people were injured, 1.36 million disabled, and 300,000 excess deaths can be attributed to COVID-19 vaccine damages in 2022 alone, which cost the economy nearly $150 billion. – False

Overall, we rate ZeroHedge an extreme right-biased conspiracy website based on the promotion of false/misleading/debunked information that routinely denigrates the left. (8/18/2016) Updated (M. Huitsing 10/30/2023)

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/ 







Did you "fact check" your site links? I did. They're speaking out of both sides of their mouths!
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

Couldn't find a listing on that site.

8trackdisco wrote:




Let me help...

Media Bias Fact Check


MediaBIasFactCheck.com describes itself as “the most comprehensive media bias resource in the Internet.” The site is owned by Dave Van Zandt from North Carolina, who offers no biographical information about himself aside from the following: “Dave has been freelancing for 25+ years for a variety of print and web mediums (sic), with a focus on media bias and the role of media in politics. Dave is a registered Non-Affiliated voter who values evidence based reporting” and, “Dave Van Zandt obtained a Communications Degree before pursuing a higher degree in the sciences. Dave currently works full time in the health care industry. Dave has spent more than 20 years as an arm chair researcher on media bias and its role in political influence.”

WND was unable to locate a single article with Van Zandt’s byline. Ironically, the “fact checker” fails to establish his own credibility by disclosing his qualifications and training in evaluating news sources.

Asked for information concerning his expertise in the field of journalism and evaluating news sources, Van Zandt told WND: “I am not a journalist and just a person who is interested in how media bias impacts politics. You will find zero claims of expertise on the website.”

Concerning his purported “25+ years” of experience writing for print and web media, he said: “I am not sure why the 25+ years is still on the website. That was removed a year ago when I first started the website. All of the writing I did was small print news zines from the ’90s. I felt that what I wrote in the ’90s is not related to what I am doing today so I removed it. Again, I am not a journalist. I simply have a background in communications and more importantly science where I learned to value evidence over all else. Through this I also became interested in research of all kinds, especially media bias, which is difficult to measure and is subjective to a degree.”

WND asked: Were your evaluations reviewed by any experts in the industry?

“I can’t say they have,” Van Zandt replied. “Though the right-of-center Atlantic Council is using our data for a project they are working on.”

MBFC-banner.jpg

Van Zandt says he uses “three volunteers” to “research and assist in fact checking.” However, he adds that he doesn’t pay them for their services.

Van Zandt lists WND on his “Right Bias” page , alongside news organizations such as Fox News, the Drudge Report, the Washington Free Beacon, the Daily Wire, the Blaze, Breitbart, Red State, Project Veritas, PJ Media, National Review, Daily Caller and others.

“These media sources are highly biased toward conservative causes,” Van Zandt writes. “They utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Sources in this category may be untrustworthy.”

His special notes concerning WND link to Snopes.com and PolitiFact.com, websites that have their own questionable reputations and formulas as so-called “fact checkers.” (See the “Snopes” and “PolitiFact” entries below.)

Get the hottest, most important news stories on the Internet – delivered FREE to your inbox as soon as they break! Take just 30 seconds and sign up for WND’s Email News Alerts!

Van Zandt says he uses a “strict methodology” in determining which news sources are credible , but his website offers vague and typo-ridden explanations of his criteria, such as the following:
VanZandt-categories.jpg

Asked if his own political leanings influence his evaluations, Van Zandt said: “Sure it is possible. However, our methodology is designed to eliminate most of that. We also have a team of 4 researchers with different political leanings so that we can further reduce researcher bias.”

Bill Palmer of the website Daily News Bin accused Van Zandt of retaliating when the Daily News Bin contacted him about his rating. Palmer wrote :


“[I]t turns out Van Zandt has a vindictive streak. After one hapless social media user tried to use his phony ‘Media Bias Fact Check’ site to dispute a thoroughly sourced article from this site, Daily News Bin, we made the mistake of contacting Van Zandt and asking him to take down his ridiculous ‘rating’ – which consisted of nothing more than hearsay such as ‘has been accused of being satire.’ Really? When? By whom? None of those facts seem to matter to the guy running this ‘Media Bias Fact Check’ scam.

“But instead of acknowledging that he’d been caught in the act, Van Zandt retaliated against Daily News Bin by changing his rating to something more sinister. He also added a link to a similar phony security company called World of Trust, which generates its ratings by allowing random anonymous individuals to post whatever bizarre conspiracy theories they want, and then letting these loons vote on whether that news site is ‘real’ or not. These scam sites are now trying to use each other for cover, in order to back up the false and unsubstantiated ‘ratings’ they semi-randomly assign respected news outlets. …
“‘Media Bias Fact Check’ is truly just one guy making misleading claims about news outlets while failing to back them up with anything, while maliciously changing the ratings to punish any news outlets that try to expose the invalidity of what he’s doing.”


But Van Zandt accused Palmer of threatening him , and he said MediaBiasFactCheck welcomes criticism. If evidence is provided, he said, the site will correct its errors.

“Bottom line is, we are not trying to be something we are not,” he said. “We have disclaimers on every page of the website indicating that our method is not scientifically proven and that there is [sic] subjective judgments being used as it is unavoidable with determining bias.”
8trackdisco
a year ago

If I haven't proved that point by now then by all means just skip reading whatever I write.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Think of it as For the Kids. The reasonably newer posters here who aren't as jaded as a lot of the veterans here.

Political content should have labels, as the nutritional content varies widely in sources of news.

Few people have the stomach (see what I did there?) for purests forms of protein, or chocalate for that matter.
So it is protein powder and 95% dark chocolate for me. Shouldn't be surprised I like my news as pure as I can get it as well, no?

You can have your info source food truck and share it freely with the masses. The media bias site is to provide nutritional information.

I'm not mad atcha.

If you want to post the equivilent of political fast food, sugary beverages, and processed food snacks, rock on wit yo bad sef.

Just don't promote it as health food.

8trackdisco
a year ago

Context for your Content. Am confident you know the background of Zero Hedge. But for those that don't know their angle, this might be helpful to them. And of course the link is provided at the bottom.




CONSPIRACY-PSEUDOSCIENCE
Sources in the Conspiracy-Pseudoscience category may publish unverifiable information that is not always supported by evidence. These sources may be untrustworthy for credible/verifiable information; therefore, fact-checking and further investigation is recommended on a per-article basis when obtaining information from these sources. See all Conspiracy-Pseudoscience sources.

Overall, we rate ZeroHedge an extreme right-biased conspiracy website based on the promotion of false/misleading/debunked information that routinely denigrates the left.

Detailed Report
Bias Rating: RIGHT CONSPIRACY/PSEUDOSCIENCE
Factual Reporting: LOW
Country: Bulgaria
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rating: MOSTLY FREE
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

History
Launched in 2009, ZeroHedge or Zero Hedge is a finance blog founded by Colin Lokey, also known as “Tyler Durden,” Daniel Ivandjiiski, and Tim Backshall. According to a Bloomberg Interview, the ZeroHedge founders/authors were anonymous until 2016. A Professional Service Subscription is required to read the rest of Bloomberg’s interview; however, a New Yorker article also covered their history.

ZeroHedge wrote a rebuttal article regarding the Bloomberg interview that can be found here. A quote reads: “Zero Hedge hired Colin after he approached us over a year ago begging for a job after being fired with cause from Seeking Alpha, following a fight with a co-worker.”

On 02/15/2022, U.S. intelligence officials accused Zero Hedge of amplifying Kremlin propaganda targeting Ukrainians and taking direction from Russian spies. Zero Hedge denies the claim.

Read our profile on Bulgaria’s government and media.

Funded by / Ownership
The website is registered in Bulgaria under the name Georgi Georgiev, a business partner of Krassimir Ivandjiiski.


According to Rationalwiki, the only writer “conclusively” identified is “Dan Ivandjiiski, who conducts public interviews on behalf of Zero Hedge.” The blog generates revenue from online advertising and subscriptions.

Analysis / Bias
A quote from a New Yorker article summarizes the blog’s political stance, which Lokey told Bloomberg is: “Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry= dunce. Vladimir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft.”

ZeroHedge’s content has been classified as “alt-right” and has been criticized for presenting conspiracy theories.

In review, ZeroHedge publishes pro-right wing/Trump articles such as Pat Buchanan: “Trump Calls Off Cold War II.” As well as fake news stories regarding liberals: Anti-Trump Protesters Bused Into Austin, Chicago.

Editorial content is written under the pseudonym Tyler Durden and usually focuses on conspiracies related to economic collapse. Zero Hedge sources from factually mixed think tanks such as The Mises Institute, which promotes Austrian (Anarcho-Capitalism) economics. Finally, during the Coronavirus pandemic, they have frequently promoted false and misleading information, as evidenced by failed fact checks below.

Failed Fact Checks
Says China “stole Coronavirus from Canada and weaponized it into a Bioweapon.” – False
Craigslist ad proof counterprotesters at a white nationalist rally “paid to make chaos”? – False
It’s now against the law in California to shower and do laundry on the same day. – Mostly False
A “newly uncovered” photograph reveals Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was crying over an empty parking lot, not detained migrant children, at a protest in Texas. – False
“The Ukrainian government just indicted the Burisma gas company & named Hunter Biden for accepting millions of dollars from a slush fund.” – False
During the last hundred years the temperature increased about 0.1°C because of carbon dioxide. The human contribution was 0.01°C. – Incorrect
New Study Confirms EVs Considerably Worse For Climate Than Diesel Cars – Inaccurate
This coronavirus genome contained sequences of another virus […] the HIV virus (AIDS virus) – Inaccurate
Coronavirus contains ‘HIV insertions’ – Inaccurate
Fabricated genetic sequences used to support the hypothesis the virus arose naturally – False
”Pfizer launches final study for COVID drug that’s suspiciously similar to ‘horse paste’” ivermectin. – False
A preprint of an ivermectin study in the Brazilian city of Itajaí found that prophylactic ivermectin reduced COVID-19 hospitalization and mortality by half. – Unsupported
A new report estimates that 26.6 million people were injured, 1.36 million disabled, and 300,000 excess deaths can be attributed to COVID-19 vaccine damages in 2022 alone, which cost the economy nearly $150 billion. – False

Overall, we rate ZeroHedge an extreme right-biased conspiracy website based on the promotion of false/misleading/debunked information that routinely denigrates the left. (8/18/2016) Updated (M. Huitsing 10/30/2023)

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/ 




DrMaddVibe wrote:




Did you "fact check" your site links? I did. They're speaking out of both sides of their mouths!



Kind of like Biden is senile he has to go!
(followed by)
Biden being out is circumventing the will of the people!

Like that?

I'm headed outside to play. I'll leave you and the other Trumpbots to get on with their days.

HockeyDad
a year ago
I fact-checked it and 8track isn’t really heading outside to play.
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

Think of it as For the Kids. The reasonably newer posters here who aren't as jaded as a lot of the veterans here.

Political content should have labels, as the nutritional content varies widely in sources of news.

Few people have the stomach (see what I did there?) for purests forms of protein, or chocalate for that matter.
So it is protein powder and 95% dark chocolate for me. Shouldn't be surprised I like my news as pure as I can get it as well, no?

You can have your info source food truck and share it freely with the masses. The media bias site is to provide nutritional information.

I'm not mad atcha.

If you want to post the equivilent of political fast food, sugary beverages, and processed food snacks, rock on wit yo bad sef.

Just don't promote it as health food.

8trackdisco wrote:



By all means, I don't ever see you share these pure news sites. All I see is you doing a weakass impersonation of TW. He liked to bash Zerohedge too. Until he couldn't explain how the "conspiracy site" was accurate and he was so damned wrong.

If you think for a second I'm some "pied piper"...nope. Read the info...Go to the sites. Is it wrong? Call it out if it is. I'm not perfect, and I don't believe to be either. Getting tired explaining it over and over and over to you though. I don't know if it's because you really don't read what I post but just see it from me and hate it or can't read period. That's not on me. That's ON YOU!
RayR
a year ago
I've fact-checked mediabiasfactcheck.com and have determined they have an EXTREME LEFT BIAS.

It is owned by some mysterious armchair media analyst character by the name of Dave Van Zandt,
DrMaddVibe
a year ago
Sanders: ‘Yeah,’ DNC Did Circle Wagons for Biden in Primary, ‘We Are Where We Are At’



During an interview with ABC News that was aired on Monday’s broadcast of “Nightline,” Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) responded to questions on whether the DNC ensured President Joe Biden would get the nomination by stating, “[Y]eah, I think the idea of having serious debates among the candidates is always a positive idea.” But “right now, we are where we are at. … We need to get going and Kamala Harris will be the candidate.”

Host Linsey Davis asked, “I’m curious your stance on — you had people like Rep. Dean Phillips (D-MN) and Marianne Williamson, who were both Democratic candidates on state primary ballots across the country, but the DNC did not allow any room for anyone but Biden. Was that a mistake?”

Sanders answered, “Well, I know Marianne, and she is a very, very intelligent, decent person, and Phillips, I don’t know. But, yeah, I think the idea of having serious debates among the candidates is always a positive idea.”

Davis then asked, “Do you think that — because the allegations are worthy of repeating, that the DNC provided cover for Biden?”

Sanders responded, “Look, right now, we are where we are at. We have Donald Trump, who is raising enormous amounts of money from the richest people in this country, he’s campaigning. We need to get going and Kamala Harris will be the candidate.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/07/23/sanders-yeah-dnc-did-circle-wagons-for-biden-in-primary-we-are-where-we-are-at/ 


Standing up for the "workers", but the Teamsters President is a key presenter at the GOP convention??? You cannot make this up. The Dems are living in some make-believe fantasy world of lollipops, rainbows and unicorns. Meanwhile the world is on fire because The United States of America literally had a "Weekend At Bernie's" presidency sham foisted on them and perpetrated by Pedo Joe's inner circle, deep state and Obama & Co..
8trackdisco
a year ago

By all means, I don't ever see you share these pure news sites. All I see is you doing a weakass impersonation of TW. He liked to bash Zerohedge too. Until he couldn't explain how the "conspiracy site" was accurate and he was so damned wrong.

If you think for a second I'm some "pied piper"...nope. Read the info...Go to the sites. Is it wrong? Call it out if it is. I'm not perfect, and I don't believe to be either. Getting tired explaining it over and over and over to you though. I don't know if it's because you really don't read what I post but just see it from me and hate it or can't read period. That's not on me. That's ON YOU!

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Common Ground: Neither one of us are perfect. 100% in agreement. We bring plenty of flaws to the table, and fail everyday.

I don't ever see you share these pure news sites. All I see is you doing a weakass impersonation of TW.

I liked and was driven by having an advisary in my fulltime work world. That was the way I built and maintained a successful career. Driving to beat the advisary, because I was on the side of Good and they weren't.

We may have common ground here too, only for you, it is people who aren't to the right enough or argue with you.
Adroomi (I had no love for him either), Victor8675309 (majoryly annoying, smug. Adroomi Light). Sat down with him a few times face to face and talked. He wasn't the monster I though he was, although we disagreed on 89.2% (instead of 98.2). TW got tangled up in the CoVid stuff and became the new target. He was, and believe still is a Republican. But he wasn't to the Right enough, he defended policies either he had to or didn't know the full scoop, or who knows- maybe Willfull Blindness.

Am unsure if I'm your target at this point now. Might be Spreyside or rfenst. It doesn't really matter. I was on the vigilante posse for a long time here, chasing down liberals, democrats, socialists, commies, arabs. Took a shot (figuratively) at rfenst once a decade or so ago calling him a "typical Jewish lawyer". The shot was intended specifically for him- although I can see where it could have been taken as anti-semetic.

I used to think people like adroomi, Victor, TW, Ben and the like were chased out of the forums. Don't feel that way any more. They decided to level up. Get out of the madness.

Maybe I flatter myself by thinking you and the other Trumpers have a bullseye on me (too soon). However, it matters little to me. If I don't hang around here- the Politics forum or Cbid at all, you'll need to figure out who's next. Who lacks the necesarry purity in the cause? Am conifident you'll come up with someone.

Pied Piper & Zero Hedge.

Going to try another angle in an attempt to help you understand where I'm coming from. Since the court case of New World Communications of Tampa, Inc. v. Jane Akre case and the appeal Fox News won the case ruling news distortion did not qualify as "law, rule, or regulation" under the statute. was settled, the chitshow has been running, and running faster all of the time.

I'm always looking for the old school news. Miss growing up watching Walter Cronkite. He simply reported the news and it never had any hint of distortion.

In my world, the news media should be calling balls and strikes. Not to be in the bag for or against the pitcher or the hitter. That is why I dislike news sources that call a pitch thigh high and over the plate a ball. I don't care which side is pitching.

What sources do I watch or listen to? I thought I shared mine, but seeing you asked, I'll share them again (knowing full well, this will probably get you, HD and the rest of far right foaming at the mouth to discredit me and my sources because that is what Group Think does for those in the Trump Universe).

NewsNation: Morning in America plays from 5:00-8:00 a.m.

NewsNation: The Hill 5:00-6:00 p.m.

AllSides.com: Website which is an aggrigator of other sites, and shows the bias of the news organization in general. Center, Slightly Right, Slightly Left etc. I prefer organizations in the Center category. I'll then sometimes look for more stories similar marked as Slightly Rght and Slightly Left to get their perspective on the same events.

TheFactual.com: Similar to AllSides. They grade the sources, they also grade the factualness of the story with a grade. Choices include grades of >75%, >50%, and >25%. So if a person wants to go all Ricksamaven or mR. jONes, they can scratch that Feed The Hate itch that plague some people here, they can look at stories considered 25% factual. Can also sort it by Left, Center or Right.

Favored Podcasts:
-Honestly by Bari Weisse.
-Ink Stained Wretches - Christ Stirewalt and Alianna Johnson.

Another I just started listening to is The Remnant - Jonah Goldberg. Only a couple episodes in, so can't really call it a favorite yet.

I don't know if it's because you really don't read what I post. I read a lot more of your stuff when you are explaining what you see is happening, and why you feel it is happening, and how you see it truly affecting people and the country. You use to do more of that

But just see it from me and hate it. It is the copy and pastes that make my eyes graze over.

Or can't read period. Thankfully, my wife is here to help me with the big... werds.



DrMaddVibe
a year ago

Common Ground: Neither one of us are perfect. 100% in agreement. We bring plenty of flaws to the table, and fail everyday.

I don't ever see you share these pure news sites. All I see is you doing a weakass impersonation of TW.

I liked and was driven by having an advisary in my fulltime work world. That was the way I built and maintained a successful career. Driving to beat the advisary, because I was on the side of Good and they weren't.

We may have common ground here too, only for you, it is people who aren't to the right enough or argue with you.
Adroomi (I had no love for him either), Victor8675309 (majoryly annoying, smug. Adroomi Light). Sat down with him a few times face to face and talked. He wasn't the monster I though he was, although we disagreed on 89.2% (instead of 98.2). TW got tangled up in the CoVid stuff and became the new target. He was, and believe still is a Republican. But he wasn't to the Right enough, he defended policies either he had to or didn't know the full scoop, or who knows- maybe Willfull Blindness.

Am unsure if I'm your target at this point now. Might be Spreyside or rfenst. It doesn't really matter. I was on the vigilante posse for a long time here, chasing down liberals, democrats, socialists, commies, arabs. Took a shot (figuratively) at rfenst once a decade or so ago calling him a "typical Jewish lawyer". The shot was intended specifically for him- although I can see where it could have been taken as anti-semetic.

I used to think people like adroomi, Victor, TW, Ben and the like were chased out of the forums. Don't feel that way any more. They decided to level up. Get out of the madness.

Maybe I flatter myself by thinking you and the other Trumpers have a bullseye on me (too soon). However, it matters little to me. If I don't hang around here- the Politics forum or Cbid at all, you'll need to figure out who's next. Who lacks the necesarry purity in the cause? Am conifident you'll come up with someone.

Pied Piper & Zero Hedge.

Going to try another angle in an attempt to help you understand where I'm coming from. Since the court case of New World Communications of Tampa, Inc. v. Jane Akre case and the appeal Fox News won the case ruling news distortion did not qualify as "law, rule, or regulation" under the statute. was settled, the chitshow has been running, and running faster all of the time.

I'm always looking for the old school news. Miss growing up watching Walter Cronkite. He simply reported the news and it never had any hint of distortion.

In my world, the news media should be calling balls and strikes. Not to be in the bag for or against the pitcher or the hitter. That is why I dislike news sources that call a pitch thigh high and over the plate a ball. I don't care which side is pitching.

What sources do I watch or listen to? I thought I shared mine, but seeing you asked, I'll share them again (knowing full well, this will probably get you, HD and the rest of far right foaming at the mouth to discredit me and my sources because that is what Group Think does for those in the Trump Universe).

NewsNation: Morning in America plays from 5:00-8:00 a.m.

NewsNation: The Hill 5:00-6:00 p.m.

AllSides.com: Website which is an aggrigator of other sites, and shows the bias of the news organization in general. Center, Slightly Right, Slightly Left etc. I prefer organizations in the Center category. I'll then sometimes look for more stories similar marked as Slightly Rght and Slightly Left to get their perspective on the same events.

TheFactual.com: Similar to AllSides. They grade the sources, they also grade the factualness of the story with a grade. Choices include grades of >75%, >50%, and >25%. So if a person wants to go all Ricksamaven or mR. jONes, they can scratch that Feed The Hate itch that plague some people here, they can look at stories considered 25% factual. Can also sort it by Left, Center or Right.

Favored Podcasts:
-Honestly by Bari Weisse.
-Ink Stained Wretches - Christ Stirewalt and Alianna Johnson.

Another I just started listening to is The Remnant - Jonah Goldberg. Only a couple episodes in, so can't really call it a favorite yet.

I don't know if it's because you really don't read what I post. I read a lot more of your stuff when you are explaining what you see is happening, and why you feel it is happening, and how you see it truly affecting people and the country. You use to do more of that

But just see it from me and hate it. It is the copy and pastes that make my eyes graze over.

Or can't read period. Thankfully, my wife is here to help me with the big... werds.



8trackdisco wrote:



You need mental help.
DrMaddVibe
a year ago
Succession by Defenestration: How Biden’s Withdrawal May Trigger a 25th Amendment Fight


Below is my column in the Hill on the withdrawal of President Joe Biden from the 2024 election. After weeks of Democrats and the media raising the alarm of his mental capacity, Biden finally gave up his public refusal to step aside. Harris will now be the nominee through succession by defenestration, or being tossed from a window. Yet, there remains a lingering question of Biden’s capacity to serve for another six months as president.

Here is the column:

President Joe Biden’s decision to withdraw as the Democratic Party’s nominee solved an immediate problem for his party. Biden has plummeted in the polls as the vast majority of voters concluded that he is too diminished by age to serve another term. Yet, it has now created several new problems, including the obvious problem of a president who is viewed as incapable of running for an office that he continues to hold.

The Democratic Party essentially created its own political version of the 25th Amendment in forcing Biden off the ticket. This decision was about as voluntary as leaving a building by way of a window on the 46th floor. That is particularly the case when you are thrown out of the window by your closest friends.

The unseemly image of succession by defenestration will soon be whitewashed by a media that will praise Biden after weeks of declaring him incompetent and enfeebled.

That, however, leaves the lingering question after the fall. How can Biden remain in office when he is incapable of running for the office?

Biden is notably vague about the reason for his withdrawal after maintaining for days that he will be the party’s nominee. He simply says that it is in the best interests of the country.

The Democratic establishment has two equally unappealing options.

First, it could argue that Biden was withdrawing out of recognition that he is no longer politically viable. But that makes a mockery out of the democratic process. Millions of people went through the primary elections to select him as their nominee. Now he would be set aside and replaced by a vote of the party establishment like a shift in the Russian politburo.

Second, it could admit that Biden was, as stated for weeks in the media and by figures like Special Counsel Robert Hur, greatly diminished both mentally and physically. However, that makes this withdrawal an admission that could trigger a fight under the 25th Amendment.

The development could create a new constitutional controversy. The 25th Amendment was written with largely physical disabilities in mind. If a president is comatose, the incapacity is obvious and Section 4 allows the vice president and a majority of the Cabinet to sign a declaration to Congress that a president is incapable of holding office.

However, Harris is eager to avoid the image of Brutus in the dispatching of the president. To support such a declaration would risk Biden proclaiming “Et tu, Kamala?” to the nation. The key to succession by defenestration is not to be seen as the hand that pushes the president out the window. Politics follows the same rules as the mafia for capo di tutti i capi: Kill a don, never be a don. While sometimes honored in the breach in the mob, it is hardly an auspicious path for a politician.

There is, however, another intriguing possibility.

Section 4 provides that a president’s fitness can be put before Congress when the “Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or such other body as Congress may by law provide.”

Previously Democrats have cited that language to suggest that they could create their own body to force former President Donald Trump out of office. Indeed, Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-Md.) sponsored legislation called the Oversight Commission on Presidential Capacity Act to create a commission empowered to examine a president to Congress on the president’s capacity. It would circumvent the necessity of getting Harris to be the primary hand that dispatched a president.

The question is whether Congress will now make this decision to warrant an investigation or even a Raskin-like bill.

This is different than President Lyndon Johnson’s decision on March 31, 1968, that “I shall not seek, and I will not accept the nomination of my party for another term as your president.”

That was before any primaries. In this case, Biden won a primary in which the Democratic Party obstructed anyone who would challenge him and barred any debate.

Millions voted for him, and tens of millions of dollars were contributed to his campaign. He is now withdrawing weeks before accepting the nomination. That unprecedented decision alone would warrant a House investigation into Biden’s continuing capacity to serve in an office that he no longer believes he can run to occupy after January 2025.

Before this decision, a special counsel cited President Biden’s diminished faculties as a reason not to indict him for unlawfully retaining and handling classified material. Now, the president is effectively saying that, in addition to being allegedly too diminished to be prosecuted, he is too diminished to run for the office that he currently holds.


The question is whether Biden has ended the fight to retain his nomination only to trigger a fight to retain his office.

https://jonathanturley.org/2024/07/22/succession-by-defenestration-how-bidens-withdrawal-could-trigger-a-25th-amendment-fight/ 


More Biden meddling with the Executive Branch and involving the other 2 that America didn't really need if he honorably walked away. Dr. Jill won't let him I suppose, because he isn't there. He's been gone and everybody from the media to his family keeps on selling the "He's okay" line but when put in the public eye...he shows how frail, dementia riddled he is. His own party ran a coup to foist him from still running his campaign. American voters wishes be damned. The party doesn't trust you and they've run out of guises to hide what they want. Harris is now their flavor du jour and she's not going to last long.
HockeyDad
a year ago


What sources do I watch or listen to? I thought I shared mine, but seeing you asked, I'll share them again (knowing full well, this will probably get you, HD and the rest of far right foaming at the mouth to discredit me and my sources because that is what Group Think does for those in the Trump Universe).

8trackdisco wrote:



Hey, how did I get dragged into this?

You can’t just declare yourself to be the next leftie victim unless voted in. This ain’t no Democrat primary.

You don’t need to outsource to third party media sites to determine if the media sites you read have a left or right bias. When you go to Fox News and the headline is “Trump Shot!” And you go to CNN and the headline says “Trump Falls Down at Rally” you ought to be smart enough to know when you are seeing bias.

There is a lot of phony fact checkers out there.

There is no old school news. That’s gone and not coming back. What we do offer is a fine line-up of echo chambers which is where folks who feel chased off from this political forum all wind up. Then they say things like they get their news from a number of sources such as Salon, Vox, and MSNBC!

8trackdisco
a year ago

You need mental help.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Thank you, I appreciate your assessment, Pot.

Sincerely,
Kettle.
Brewha
a year ago
Meet DMV - "The Projectionist"
jeebling
a year ago

Couldn't find a listing on that site.

8trackdisco wrote:



The link is hot. Just click and then scroll down. They are numbered 1 - 9.
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

Thank you, I appreciate your assessment.

8trackdisco wrote:



I hope you find it. Seriously between the posts with you griping on MACS and your paranoid ramblings...Worried.

PS: Nice echo chamber ya got there.
Abrignac
a year ago

I hope you find it. Seriously between the posts with you griping on MACS and your paranoid ramblings...Worried.

PS: Nice echo chamber ya got there.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



What’s worse a person is believed to need mental help by someone who probably doesn’t have the appropriate training or credentials to make such an assessment or a guy that gets arrested for beating a family member?
8trackdisco
a year ago

I hope you find it. Seriously between the posts with you griping on MACS and your paranoid ramblings...Worried.

PS: Nice echo chamber ya got there.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Nice of you to show the same concern I have for you.

You’ll know paranoid ramblings if I share a minimum a single ZeroHedge post per day.

On the bright side, reading your posts makes a sane man out of Mr. Jones.

HockeyDad
a year ago
Let’s see what’s on ZeroHedge:

Secret Service Tells Trump not to Have Any More Outdoor Rallies.

VP Harris had 92% Staff Turnover During Her First Three Years

Court Rejects Bid to Throw Out Trump Case Against Pulitzer Board

Futures Slide as Ugly Mag7, European Earnings Sour Trader Mood

Which Countries Have the Most Olympic Medals of All Time

Unelected Technocrats Are Now The Nation’s Chief Executives

New Car Incentives Soar 53% Amid Rising Inventories & Lackluster Demand Hint At Downturn

Growing Power Needs Call For Grid-Enhancing Technologies

Equities in the red amid post-earning losses in LVMH, Tesla and Alphabet, Bunds bid after dire German/EZ PMIs - Newsquawk US Market Open

Signs Of Severe Credit-Card And Auto-Loan Stress In Generation Z

US Pork Demand Has "Uncharacteristically Declined" In Peak Grilling Season


8track, that stuff is all terrifying to you?


Let’s try MSNBC:

Andy Beshear’s perfect response to JD Vance makes his case to be Harris’ running mate

The right pushed an absurd conspiracy theory about Biden after he dropped out

Trump’s Cocky Decision to Make JD Vance his Running Mate Will Likely Backfire

I’m the youngest Jewish member of Congress. Here’s why I’m not attending Netanyahu’s address.

Ohio Republican forced to scramble after ‘civil war’ comments

Trump’s latest praise for Elon Musk should have us all concerned

Secret Service director resigns after security failures. GOP lawmakers blamed women.


And so on for another ten items. Every single one on the election and pro-left. Sounds like a nice safe place.
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