tonygraz
4 years ago
I didn't know Dg was right handed.
bgz
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4 years ago


I know, I'm a cliche of piety.

Dg west deptford wrote:



Cliche of the reverence of dogmatic pompousness maybe.

So much so that I suspect you may be a charlatan.

Edit:

And what do you use to rub one out with then if not your hand? How many toes you got left?
bgz
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4 years ago
Also, you can use a fleshlight... might get expensive if you only want virgin ones.

Beware the open box.

If you're not worried about virginity and such, you can probably snag a used fleshlight on ebay for pretty cheap.
bgz
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4 years ago
That way you don't have to chop off your hand...

Can't help you with the eye though Willy
MACS
4 years ago
Ooooooh... the almighty government said so!
tonygraz
4 years ago
Sooner or later all the objections and conspiracy lies will be negated and the holdouts will have to admit that they are afraid of needles. I hear they booed trump when he asked them to get the shot lately..
Dg west deptford
4 years ago
No one answered m sincere question

Did we get a warning list of side effects with the FDA approval?

Isn't that part of the legal FDA approval process?

MACS
4 years ago

Sooner or later all the objections and conspiracy lies will be negated and the holdouts will have to admit that they are afraid of needles. I hear they booed trump when he asked them to get the shot lately..

tonygraz wrote:



You should be a politician, Tony. You make being wrong a habit.
BuckyB93
4 years ago
I don't like needles. I cringe, grit my teeth, and look away when they draw blood on routine physicals. I close my eyes when a TV show or movie has a scene where IVs are inserted. I don't think I'd ever be able to be an addict where needles are involved.

If that makes me an antivaxer than guilty as charged.
bgz
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4 years ago
Bucky hates needles so bad that he told us twice.
BuckyB93
4 years ago
Maybe it was the withdrawals and shakes.

I sure could go for a chocolate shake right about now.
tonygraz
4 years ago
Thanks Bucky for admitting it, MACS never will.
MACS
4 years ago

Thanks Bucky for admitting it, MACS never will.

tonygraz wrote:



Probably because it's 100% false. I have 8 tattoos.

But hey, you saw an opportunity to be wrong YET AGAIN, and took it. Good for you! =d>
Smooth light
4 years ago
Skepticism is the camouflage of evil, Criticism is man's covering of his evil intend. Which holds him back from the glory of God.

Unless there is within us that is above us, we will soon yield to that which is about us.
frankj1
4 years ago

No one answered m sincere question

Did we get a warning list of side effects with the FDA approval?

Isn't that part of the legal FDA approval process?

Dg west deptford wrote:


we know the lengthy danger lists of cigars and alcohol.

None of us are deterred by those proven possibilities.
Even self proclaimed super healthy eaters
BuckyB93
4 years ago

Thanks Bucky for admitting it, MACS never will.

tonygraz wrote:



I admitted not liking (some may even qualify it as a phobia) needles. That has no bearing on my opinion or stance on vaccines be it this recent concoction, past vaccines, or future vaccines. Past and common vaccines, I'm more comfortable with because they have a decades of data to support them to be overall safe and effective. Two key words.

FDA approval or not, I wouldn't qualify the Rona one as it stands as an effective vaccine. If you need a booster every 8 months to "protect" you from the latest version of the bug, I wouldn't say it's very effective. Safety factor is still TDB, we have less than one year's of data on this thing.

If you get the shot, you can still catch the affliction.
If you get the shot, you can still be contagious and pass on the affliction.

That doesn't sound like a very effective vaccine to me. Sounds like they are just trying to hit a moving target and making it up as they go along. Again, safety and long term effects are TBD. Fact, not opinion. First vaccine of it's type using technology that hasn't made it out of the R&D labs until recently when we pushed it for wide spread use. Fact, not opinion. Hey, "in for a penny in for a pound... full steam ahead!"

If you had the mumps vaccine (for example), does it wear out and we need re-inject everyone every 6 months? Every year? Studies have this vaccine providing immunity for like 15 to 50 years, around 30 on average. Sounds pretty effective. Do we worry about those vaccinated from mumps passing it on to folks not vaccinated from the mumps or passing it on to those who are vaccinated from the mumps? Nope. Would I worry about getting a mumps vaccine if needed. Nope.

The common flu vaccine - it's FDA approved but I don't think it's effective. Another shot is offered every year for the best guess on which strain. Historical data puts it at about 50% effective, on average, since they have been tracking it. It's a coin flip. Vegas wouldn't even open a betting window on those odds. I don't get the yearly flu vaccine because I don't think it's effective.

Hep vaccine - it's FDA approved. 2 or 3 series of shots on a schedule with a few months between each shot. Then after that 10ish years immunity, but most likely lifetime. That sounds pretty effective. If you are in a job where you are more prone to be exposed to Hep (medical field and such), you probably want to keep up on any boosters. I'm OK with that but I'm not high risk for catching Hep so I haven't signed up to get inoculated. If I was in a situation or a job where I would need it, I wouldn't have issues with doing so.
Dg west deptford
4 years ago

we know the lengthy danger lists of cigars and alcohol.

None of us are deterred by those proven possibilities.
Even self proclaimed super healthy eaters

frankj1 wrote:




Frank sounds like my wife & daughter now. Everytime I say " I'm not eating that" one of them will say " but you'll smoke a cigar"

True, true.

I'm really not that disciplined though. I go on spurts of healthy eating to reset then go back to trying to do portion control of anything I want.

I have been on a health kick lately with all this lab virus about.
Plus I'll be 50 soon & want to get this colonoscopy thing done with no issues.

Can't smoke cigars if you're sick.

Priorities!
tonygraz
4 years ago

Probably because it's 100% false. I have 8 tattoos....=d>

MACS wrote:



So we need to get MACS drunk. Shouldn't be a problem.
Dg west deptford
4 years ago
[quote=MACS] I have 8 tattoos.

NINE!
drglnc
4 years ago

No one answered m sincere question

Did we get a warning list of side effects with the FDA approval?

Isn't that part of the legal FDA approval process?

Dg west deptford wrote:




Yes we did...

In clinical studies of participants 16 through 55 years of age, the most commonly reported adverse reactions (≥10%) were pain at the injection site (88.6%), fatigue (70.1%), headache (64.9%), muscle pain (45.5%), chills (41.5%), joint pain (27.5%), fever (17.8%), and injection site swelling (10.6%). (6.1)

In clinical studies of participants 56 years of age and older, the most commonly reported adverse reactions (≥10%) were pain at the injection site (78.2%), fatigue (56.9%), headache, (45.9%), muscle pain (32.5%), chills (24.8%), joint pain (21.5%), injection site swelling (11.8%), fever (11.5%), and injection site redness (10.4%). (6.1)

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/comirnaty-and-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine#:~:text=Common%20Side%20Effects,%2C%20joint%20pain%2C%20and%20fever .
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