I remember my parents leaving empty milk bottles in the box on the stoop for the milkman (ours was a man) to take at the next delivery, but no money lost nor earned.

Don't remember brown bags going anywhere other than in my recycling bin.

but, at least around here, beer bottles and cans, soda bottles and cans, etc. etc. had deposits charged to make people feel like they were throwing away money when they littered...idiots used to throw bottles and cans out of the car windows.
Somehow, turning that disrespectful act into throwing away money worked.
At least in MA...much less road side trash.

I think the redeemable money deposits above and recycling glass/plastics/newsprint/cans etc are mutually exclusive acts of recycling.

frankj1 wrote:

Snoopy's brother Spike was from Needles. Then again, in California, there are Needles everywhere.

8trackdisco wrote:

in another thread I mentioned how it's time for certain industries to put the touch on government to reimagine recycling...I used different words, but you get the point. (I don't want HD to yell at me again).

frankj1 wrote:

I’ve got an eye on you. Do you smell what Le HockeyDad is cooking.

HockeyDad wrote:

Do we need to pull your finger to smell what Hockey Dad is cooking?

BuckyB93 wrote:

I lost faith in recycling. I'm not opposed to the idea, but around here it's a hoax. A guy in waste management said they used to separate items, but it was determined to be too costly, so it all gets dumped now. They still have the different colored bins, but only for the optics.

Sunoverbeach wrote:

Same thing here.

8trackdisco wrote:

Google CA Redemption

The state has hundreds of millions of dollars in unredeemed money because all the redemptions sites closed down. We charged the 10 cents but you could not get it back. It was just a tax.

HockeyDad wrote:

we've had a few redemption sites close too, but the retailers have to take back the bottles and cans that are sold with deposits

frankj1 wrote:

I never trusted the Japanese after they invaded Poland.

Brewha wrote:

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/electric-hummer-could-cost-much-100-charge-youtube-review-shows

There goes that 20 cents to the dollar claim.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Charging my e-bike battery (36V/10.4Ah battery) with the current rate of about 22 cents/kWh (average here in MA at last I checked). Comes about to about 8 cents to fully charge it.

I've had it for about a year and have put on about 800 miles on it. The disk break pads need to be replaced at about 250 miles (I live in a town that is rather hilly). Pads cost about $5/set. Need to put a new rear tire as the tread it getting pretty low since it's mostly used on the road but has mtn bike tires.

So annual maintenance comes in to about $70/yr on the bike. About $40 tune up once a year at the bike shop (they grease the bearings, change the brake and shifting cables, and all that routine stuff), $20 for some new tires, new brake pads. Only popped a tire once as it picked up a nail somewhere along the way.

I've noticed that cold weather has decreased it's range. I would only charge it maybe once or twice a week in the summer, now have to do it every couple of days. Not a big deal but, as no surprise, batteries need more frequent charges in cold weather.

One thing to consider if going with EV vehicles is the environment where it will be used. In TX, CA, AZ, FL, etc. where it's rather warm year round is different than than in the higher latitudes. The range between charges will drop as the outside temp drops. Also need to factor in the terrain. The range of the vehicle will drop if you live in a hilly areas or in the mountains. Most of the range quoted on all vehicles are best case situations - flat land, ideal temps and environmental conditions,dry load/curb weight.

BuckyB93 wrote: