ZRX1200
3 years ago
I’m glad they’re outraged by this.

They’re worthy of trust.

Never let a brother off the plantation.
RayR
3 years ago
I see...now Thomas is guilty by association because he has a friend, Harlan Crow who has a collection of Nazi paraphernalia and Hitler-related souvenirs. The Op-Ed writer doesn't mention that Crow has acquired all sorts of historical stuff including stuff owned by people he hates like Commies and Fascists.

The writer also cherry-picks words by Alexander Hamilton, a founding father of the 'living constitution" and political corruption itself. All LEFTY's love Hamilton.
rfenst
3 years ago
Americans take a dim view of Clarence Thomas’s ethics

For the second time in a year, a new poll shows, even plenty of Republicans object to the justice’s conduct

WAPO
It remains unclear what, if anything, ProPublica’s exposé on Clarence Thomas’s relationship with conservative billionaire donor Harlan Crow will mean for the Supreme Court justice or the court itself. Thomas reportedly accepted one trip from Crow — among many — that would have cost half a million dollars if he had paid for it himself.

But for the second time in a year, polling indicates that Americans see something objectionable in what Thomas has done and are concerned about the line between his jurisprudence and his personal life.

A new survey out Wednesday, from the Economist and YouGov, finds that the public broadly disagrees with Thomas’s choice to accept the luxury trips without disclosing them. Nearly 6 in 10 disapprove — including 42 percent “strongly” — while only about a quarter approve.

That comes with the caveat that many Americans haven’t digested the news: Twenty-one percent say they’ve heard “a lot” about it, while 46 percent say they’ve heard “a little.” So it seems the responses are somewhat in the abstract — expressing views about something that is described to them.

But it’s worth emphasizing that in describing the situation, the poll cites the conservative justice by name. And even Republicans are more likely to disapprove (4 in 10) than approve (a little more than 3 in 10) of Thomas’s conduct.

This is a conservative icon — the same poll shows two-thirds of Republicans have a favorable view of Thomas, compared with just 13 percent unfavorable — but this news apparently doesn’t smell right to plenty of them.

Americans are somewhat less convinced that Thomas broke the law: Forty-three percent wager that he did, and 28 percent say he didn’t. But again, even a substantial number of Republicans say Thomas crossed that line: Twenty-four percent say he broke the law; 47 percent say he did not.

As for whether he did? Judges are prohibited from accepting gifts from anyone with business before the court, with an exception for “personal hospitality.” Thomas has cited the fact that Crow did not personally have a case reach the Supreme Court, though critics note there have been cases that, logically, would have had an impact on Crow’s business. Thomas also said he was advised that the luxury trips qualified for the personal hospitality exemption because Crow is a friend. But last month a committee of the Judicial Conference, the courts’ policymaking body, clarified those rules to state that stays at commercial properties and trips on private jets, which Thomas accepted, must be reported. Thomas said in a statement that “it is, of course, my intent to follow this guidance in the future.”

It’s the second time in a year that such questions have been raised about Thomas — and that Americans have taken a dim view of the justice’s ethical decisions.

Last year, it was revealed that Thomas’s wife, conservative activist Ginni Thomas, had exchanged text messages with then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, strategizing about the effort to overturn the 2020 election. A poll from Quinnipiac University soon showed that Americans said by a significant margin, 52 percent to 39 percent, that Thomas should recuse himself from cases related to the election, which Thomas had not done. (Indeed, Thomas provided the only note of dissent in the court’s decision to grant access to White House records related to Jan. 6. Even at the time, it was known that his wife had publicly criticized the Jan. 6 committee’s work.)

Again, even in that case, many Republicans seemed to see something amiss. The poll showed 28 percent of them said Thomas should recuse himself from such cases.

Despite the concerns, there are limited options when it comes to what can be done about it, from either an ethical or legal standpoint. The justices largely police themselves. If nothing else, though, the episodes would seem to highlight calls by some for an ethics code of conduct, which applies to other judges but not Supreme Court justices.

But The Washington Post reported this year that the justices have discussed that for at least four years, without any consensus.
MACS
3 years ago
WAPO and NYT... so we got lefties view of the situation. lol

Where's the truth of it? Because THAT ain't it.
rfenst
3 years ago

WAPO and NYT... so we got lefties view of the situation. lol

Where's the truth of it? Because THAT ain't it.

MACS wrote:


Yeah, like you even read it.
rfenst
3 years ago

WAPO and NYT... so we got lefties view of the situation. lol

Where's the truth of it? Because THAT ain't it.

MACS wrote:


Yeah, like you even read it.

"A new survey out Wednesday, from the Economist and YouGov, finds that the public broadly disagrees with Thomas’s choice to accept the luxury trips without disclosing them. Nearly 6 in 10 disapprove — including 42 percent “strongly” — while only about a quarter approve."

The Economist is about as unbiased as it gets. It has no dog in this fight. It's published in England.
Brewha
3 years ago
I heard Tucker Carlson practices mind control.

And he be good at it!
RayR
3 years ago
The public broadly disagrees? Who cares what the majority of Americans think these days? I've heard the majority are idjuts. It's a result of DUHMACRACY!

The idjuts are only mad about the court being political when their guys and gals aren't in the majority. When they are in the majority it's full steam ahead, damn the Constitution, damn that ethics chit, legislate from the bench, the ends justify the means.



frankj1
3 years ago

While I’m at it, when will we tire of judging people’s past actions based on contemporary guidelines instead of the ones in place at the time of such perceived transgressions occurred?

Abrignac wrote:


agree with your point but don't think it applies here.
He's been "on the take" since the 1990's and never stopped...it wasn't an understandable youthful indiscretion.
rfenst
3 years ago

agree with your point but don't think it applies here.
He's been "on the take" since the 1990's and never stopped...it wasn't an understandable youthful indiscretion.

frankj1 wrote:


I don't care if an anti-abortion, textualist, states' rights conservative is appointed.

Thomas must go.

He broke all the rules every lawyer and judge knows.

No other Judge in this country would survive on the job if they did what he has done.
DrMaddVibe
3 years ago

Despite the concerns, there are limited options when it comes to what can be done about it, from either an ethical or legal standpoint. The justices largely police themselves. If nothing else, though, the episodes would seem to highlight calls by some for an ethics code of conduct, which applies to other judges but not Supreme Court justices.

But The Washington Post reported this year that the justices have discussed that for at least four years, without any consensus.

rfenst wrote:



So, what laws were broken?

Is this some more "But Trump"?
RayR
3 years ago



So, what laws were broken?

Is this some more "But Trump"?

DrMaddVibe wrote:



I've been asking that question myself with no response.

I think what's disturbing to the Left O' Center is Clarence Thomas and his wife have like-minded friends that they like to hang with and party. 🤔






rfenst
3 years ago
[size=8]Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas sold real estate to donor and didn’t report the deal, report says[/size



Associated Press

WASHINGTON — Conservative mega-donor Harlan Crow purchased three properties belonging to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and his family, in a transaction worth more than $100,000 that Thomas never reported, according to the non-profit investigative journalism organization ProPublica.

The 2014 real estate deal shines a new light on Thomas’s decades old relationship with Crow, a real estate magnate and longtime financier for conservative causes. That relationship and the material benefits received by Thomas have fueled calls for an official ethics investigation.

ProPublica previously revealed that Thomas and his wife Ginni were gifted with hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of annual vacations and trips by Crow for decades — including international cruises on his mega-yacht, private jet flights and stays at Crow’s invitation-only resort in the Adirondacks. But the 2014 real estate deal is the first public evidence of a direct financial transaction between the pair.

Citing state tax documents and property deeds, ProPublica reported that one of Crow’s companies paid $133,363 for the home in Savannah, Georgia where Thomas’ mother was living, along with two nearby vacant lots that belonged to Thomas’ family members. Thomas mother remained living in the home, which soon underwent tens of thousands of dollars in renovations.

Federal officials, including Supreme Court justices, are required to disclose the details of most real estate transactions with a value of over $1,000. Thomas would not be required to report the purchase if the property was his or his spouse’s primary personal residence, but this stipulation does not apply to this purchase, which Thomas did not report.


Both Thomas and Crow have released statements downplaying the significance of the gifts, with Thomas maintaining that he was not required to disclose the trips. Crow responded to the latest disclosure with a statement to ProPublica saying that he approached Thomas about the purchase with an eye on honoring his legacy.

“My intention is to one day create a public museum at the Thomas home dedicated to telling the story of our nation’s second black Supreme Court Justice,” the statement said. “Justice Thomas’s story represents the best of America.”

Thomas’ office did not respond to an Associated Press request for comment.






What more does one need to understand the failure to report transactions/omissions is sufficient, in and of itself, to disbar any lawyer or Judge? Resign or due process impeachment. Look at his legally required disclosure forms for that year:

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://fixthecourt.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Thomas-Disclosure-2014.pdf

ZRX1200
3 years ago
Lefty viagra!
rfenst
3 years ago

Lefty viagra!

ZRX1200 wrote:



I'd even be willing to let the R's pick his replacement because this in and of itself for any Judge, Justice and SCOTUS Justice should get him or her thrown out.

rfenst wrote:



You don't get it
DrMaddVibe
3 years ago

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas sold real estate to donor and didn’t report the deal, report says



Associated Press

WASHINGTON — Conservative mega-donor Harlan Crow purchased three properties belonging to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and his family, in a transaction worth more than $100,000 that Thomas never reported, according to the non-profit investigative journalism organization ProPublica.

The 2014 real estate deal shines a new light on Thomas’s decades old relationship with Crow, a real estate magnate and longtime financier for conservative causes. That relationship and the material benefits received by Thomas have fueled calls for an official ethics investigation.

ProPublica previously revealed that Thomas and his wife Ginni were gifted with hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of annual vacations and trips by Crow for decades — including international cruises on his mega-yacht, private jet flights and stays at Crow’s invitation-only resort in the Adirondacks. But the 2014 real estate deal is the first public evidence of a direct financial transaction between the pair.

Citing state tax documents and property deeds, ProPublica reported that one of Crow’s companies paid $133,363 for the home in Savannah, Georgia where Thomas’ mother was living, along with two nearby vacant lots that belonged to Thomas’ family members. Thomas mother remained living in the home, which soon underwent tens of thousands of dollars in renovations.

Federal officials, including Supreme Court justices, are required to disclose the details of most real estate transactions with a value of over $1,000. Thomas would not be required to report the purchase if the property was his or his spouse’s primary personal residence, but this stipulation does not apply to this purchase, which Thomas did not report.

Both Thomas and Crow have released statements downplaying the significance of the gifts, with Thomas maintaining that he was not required to disclose the trips. Crow responded to the latest disclosure with a statement to ProPublica saying that he approached Thomas about the purchase with an eye on honoring his legacy.

“My intention is to one day create a public museum at the Thomas home dedicated to telling the story of our nation’s second black Supreme Court Justice,” the statement said. “Justice Thomas’s story represents the best of America.”

Thomas’ office did not respond to an Associated Press request for comment.






What more does one need to understand the failure to report transactions/omissions is sufficient, in and of itself, to disbar any lawyer or Judge? Resign or due process impeachment. Look at his legally required disclosure forms for that year:

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://fixthecourt.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Thomas-Disclosure-2014.pdf

rfenst wrote:



THIS wasn't part of the original article.

Is the DNC just looking for a lynching?
ZRX1200
3 years ago
Horse to water
Mr. Jones
3 years ago
CROW bought three of clarences H.U.T. @ market prices...
Houses#?
Properties #?
Lots?

One was his mommies hut....that recieved multiple $10k amounts.of upgrades and remodels...
One hut is for clardnces legacy historical museum,filled to the gunnels with empty coke a cola cans and bales of public hairs...
ALLeDgEdLy
HockeyDad
3 years ago
I wonder if they will walk him out in leg shackles.
RayR
3 years ago
Yes, I heard the racist Democrats are constantly working to put guys like Thomas who left the plantation back in chains.
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