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Stogie1020
Herf-A-Holic

3 years ago

#21

so which one would you rather go up against? A killer with the S&W FPC Carbine....or Dahmer with a butter knife?

or imagine this scenario: you and your lovely wife are among 35 people in a movie theater...a killer walks in and starts the carnage...which one do you think your chances of surviving would be higher?

delta1 wrote:

Well, then I guess we should ban killers.

Jakethesnake86
Herf-A-Holic

3 years ago

#22

I’m all for everyone carrying guns. That said I don’t carry. A lot of the bull crap would stop if three or 7 good people were armed and a lunatic with whatever type guns try’s something. 99 percent of the people that do that stuff wouldn’t show up if they knew they’d likely be gunned down.

I do have a couple “cool” pieces because I like to look at them.

The rest of what I have is just rifles and shotguns

I’m the snake

delta1
Herf-A-Holic

3 years ago

#23

some studies show crime and homicides up in states with weaker gun laws...wonder why NRA opposes studies on relationships between numbers of guns and violence?

I'd be comfortable among all you guys who post here, even if you are carrying your fave firearm in my presence...

my fear is the 1.8% of our population, the unhinged lunatic fringe who have easy access to firearms and benefit from the ease of gun ownership demanded by a small percentage of the decent 98.2%

that ease of ownership makes it less safe for the majority who are increasingly likely to be an innocent victim...I would not want to "feel safer" packing wherever I go...too many "accidental" Costco shootings

two studies of relationship between homicides/violent crime and gun ownership/concealed carry;

https://vpc.org/states-with-weak-gun-laws-and-higher-gun-ownership-lead-nation-in-gun-deaths-new-data-for-2020-
confirms/?gclid=Cj0KCQjw0tKiBhC6ARIsAAOXutm0lL4jowiTJU3SNRHwuIgj34SO

https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/concealed-carry/violent-crime.html

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Sunoverbeach
Herf-A-Holic

3 years ago

#24

And a study by the CDC states that annual defensive gun use in America eclipses ALL annual gun deaths exponentially. Minimum 500k, but likely closer to 3m.

I'd give you a link, but the CDC was pressured by anti gun legislators to delete the study from their site because tge results made it too difficult to pass new gun laws

Hmmmmm, weird 🤔

Sunoverbeach
Herf-A-Holic

3 years ago

#25

More in line with the original post that was not placed under the politics section however, on the carbine front I REALLY want a CZ Scorpion. Don't wanna pay for it though

delta1
Herf-A-Holic

3 years ago

#26

Sunoverbeach wrote:

here's an article that discusses that very thing;

nearly 7x more victims of gun violence than defensive gun uses...

https://www.thetrace.org/2022/06/defensive-gun-use-data-good-guys-with-guns/

apologies for the injection of politics into a love affair thread

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Sunoverbeach
Herf-A-Holic

3 years ago

#27

*Sigh* It's to be expected
Google articles specifically leaning towards the preferred side of the argument. Check

https://reason.com/2022/09/09/the-largest-ever-survey-of-american-gun-owners-finds-that-defensive-use-of-firearms-is-common/

You want to save the most amount of lives?
Address the glaring mental health problem in society which leads to such a high suicide rate

You want to stop horrific mass shootings?
Address the glaring mental health problem in society which creates these lunatic scumbags who have so little regard for human life

You want to save the next biggest chunk of lives after suicide?
Address the socioeconomic issues prevalent, in particular in the urban demographic, that lead so many people to a life of violent crime

You want to pat yourself on the back while having little to no effect on the stated issue?
Ban the scary guns with tactical rails. It worked great for alcohol use during prohibition and did wonders for drug abuse in the past 40 years

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HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

3 years ago

#28

apologies for the injection of politics into a love affair thread

delta1 wrote:

Yeah, you ruined the thread. Now you need to define “ease of gun ownership”. Go to your local gun store and buy two handguns and a box of ammunition. Report back on the process including when you actually received any of the items you wanted to buy.

Jakethesnake86
Herf-A-Holic

3 years ago

#29

Legally bought firearms aren’t the ones shooting people

I’m the snake

Gene363
Herf-A-Holic

3 years ago

#30

HockeyDad wrote:

Legally bought firearms aren’t the ones shooting people

Jakethesnake86 wrote:

Exactly why we don't need any more gun laws, in fact, we need to repeal many of them, in particular the Nation Firearms Registry (NFA).

The escape pod: https://cigarbid.freeforums.net

Whistlebritches
Herf-A-Holic

3 years ago

#31

Pretty rando rocking a 20+ year old PCC in a theater is gonna taste a Glock 26 right quick……

ZRX1200 wrote:

Fo sho..........I don't go to my own squat room without my G26

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Whistlebritches
Herf-A-Holic

3 years ago

#32

delta1 wrote:

What just happened in Allen Texas is a classic example.My heart goes out to those people and their families............but had more of those in that mall been exercising their right to carry there is a good chance many of those slaughtered may just be alive today.

Jakethesnake86
Herf-A-Holic

3 years ago

#33

I agree whistle

I’m the snake

Stogie1020
Herf-A-Holic

3 years ago

#34

Anyone want to bet on whether that outdoor outlet mall was a "gun free zone?"

325AIR
Connoisseur

3 years ago

#35

I'm not big into pistol caliber carbines, however the ones with the best reputation for reliability, ruggedness and accuracy come in the AR15 style platforms.

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