Mr. Jones
2 years ago
In Lewiston, MAINE....

20+ dead
50 injured

He had a AR-15...THE BAD MANS GUN...
WOUNDED his own son...
Place was filled with all ages...

At least 2-3 people should have been armed with CCP's( it's freaking Maine for gods sake, the land of hunting and gun ownership)....let alone the bowling alley owner should've had a loaded
12 GA pump Mossberg 500 or 590 in his office???

Did everyone cower and run?

Sounds fishy 🐟 to me...
Ram27
2 years ago
😣 🤦 🤦 😣
drglnc
2 years ago
"good guy with a gun" is rarely in the "right place, at the right time"....
ZRX1200
2 years ago
^ defensive gun use and brandishing to prevent crime aren’t a stat the MSM likes to talk about.

Is this broad on TV the Mayor? Jesus what a piece of work she is, really leaning into her 15 minutes.
DrMaddVibe
2 years ago
He was such a quiet man, kept to himself and would wave to you in the yard.....


The One Detail That Torpedoes Any Gun Control Narrative in the Wake of Maine Shootings



Lewiston, Maine, the state’s second-largest city, was rocked by a horrific mass shooting that left up to 22 people dead and dozens injured. The suspect, Robert Card, remains at large. The manhunt roped in federal and state law enforcement agencies, but despite reportedly finding his vehicle near Lisbon at a boat ramp at Papermill Trail Park, Card is still missing.

Officials in Lewiston, Maine, have instructed people in the city to “stay inside with doors locked” as a manhunt continues after a shooting. Multiple sources told CBS News at least 16 people are dead, and police say they were investigating “multiple locations.”…
— CBS News (@CBSNews) October 26, 2023

https://t.co/ryHVLHmhYa 
— NBC News (@NBCNews) October 26, 2023

The reports initially had three sites where Card opened fire: Schemengees, a bar/restaurant, Sparetime Recreation, a bowling alley, and a Walmart distribution center. It was later corrected that Card did not attack the Walmart facility. The bowling alley could yield some horrible updates as a youth bowling league was underway when witnesses heard shots. Card’s image, information, and the model and make of his vehicle have been released.

Maine shooting suspect Robert Card was convicted of DUI in 2007. He's not a registered sex offender. Someone with the same name was widely shared on Twitter/X.
— BNO News Live (@BNODesk) October 26, 2023

I hate to get into the politics of this, but Democrats have already started stoking the flames of the gun control fires. That would happen anyway, but can we wait until all the details are released and the damage assessed before we get into this policy fight? We already had the information corrected. Would you like to guess which two things came up regarding the suspect that we’ve heard many times before concerning these crimes? He was known to law enforcement and had severe mental health problems.

I pulled the screenshot before Facebook nuked his account

The profile picture matches the picture distributed by the Maine Info & Analysis center pic.twitter.com/xoF4S2IDm9
— John Hasson (@SonofHas) October 26, 2023

Card is reportedly a 20-year Army veteran and a trained firearms instructor but had episodes of hearing voices in his head. He made threats to attack a National Guard base in Saco. In the summer of 2023, he was committed for two weeks at a mental health facility:

BREAKING from CBS News: MAINE LAW ENFOCEMENT BULLETIN: Maine State Police is attempting to locate Robert Card as a person of interest regarding a mass shooting incident at Schemeagees Bar and Grille Restaurant and the Sparetime Recreation in Lewiston.

Card is a trained firearms…
— David Begnaud (@DavidBegnaud) October 26, 2023

The shooter in Lewiston was sent to a mental health facility in the summer

He threatened to shoot up a base

They released him pic.twitter.com/jM2gjXWX6L
— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) October 26, 2023

More from the Associated Press:

A man opened fire at a bar and a bowling alley in Lewiston, Maine, on Wednesday, killing at least 16 people, wounding dozens of others, and throwing the state’s second-largest city into chaos as hundreds of police searched for a person of interest and residents were ordered to shelter in place.

A police intelligence bulletin identified Robert Card, who was trained as a firearms instructor at a U.S. Army Reserve training facility in Maine, as the person of interest. The document, reviewed by The Associated Press and circulated to law enforcement officials, says Card had been committed to a mental health facility for two weeks in the summer of 2023. It did not provide specific details about his treatment or condition.

The document also said Card had reported hearing voices and had threatened to carry out a shooting at the military training base in Saco, Maine. A telephone number listed for Card in public records was not in service.


https://t.co/mCddhkkG2u 
— Jacqui Heinrich (@JacquiHeinrich) October 26, 2023

DEVELOPING: we had just arrived to Lisbon Falls by the Mobil station where there was a large law enforcement presence. All of a sudden, just a few minutes ago, about a dozen police vehicles took off all at once. It’s the most movement we’ve seen tonight at one time. pic.twitter.com/FOi02bYt1u
— Mal Meyer (@MalWGME) October 26, 2023

Lewiston was placed in a lockdown during this shooting. Its public schools have been closed today. Not much was said during the police press conference last night. There will be one held at 10:30 AM this morning.

UPDATE: @MEStatePolice has no updates at this time regarding the Lewiston shootings. They say they’ll have a press conference tomorrow at 10:30 am at Lewiston City Hall. @WMTWTV
— Connor Clement (@connorclementtv) October 26, 2023

But one would think Card’s firearms would be taken away once he was committed to a mental health clinic.

We’ll keep you updated.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2023/10/26/maine-mass-shooter-was-suffering-from-severe-mental-illness-n2630397 


There were signs.

Wow.

ZRX1200
2 years ago
Good thing the public officials on the news “hype manned” eachother up after doing the authorized acceptable language puking. The smile that kept creeping up on that mayor broad…..would love to see a body language break down of that. Then I heard one question that was obviously dragged and turned it off.
MACS
2 years ago

"good guy with a gun" is rarely in the "right place, at the right time"....

drglnc wrote:



That's because lots of states require permission to exercise a constitutional right. If more people were armed this shit wouldn't happen at all, or would be stopped quickly.

And it happens more than you know... but it doesn't fit the media narrative, so they do not report it.
8trackdisco
2 years ago

In Lewiston, MAINE....

20+ dead
50 injured

He had a AR-15...THE BAD MANS GUN...
WOUNDED his own son...
Place was filled with all ages...

At least 2-3 people should have been armed with CCP's( it's freaking Maine for gods sake, the land of hunting and gun ownership).....

Mr. Jones wrote:



It screws with the follow through. My average went down 18 pins.
Mr. Jones
2 years ago
From the above statements:

Of which I know nothing...
This guy did everything but begged to be mentally challenged and a possible threat to even a special ED graduate...why no lockdown or arrest?? This guy...
He's NUTS for gods sake...
drglnc
2 years ago

That's because lots of states require permission to exercise a constitutional right. If more people were armed this shit wouldn't happen at all, or would be stopped quickly.

And it happens more than you know... but it doesn't fit the media narrative, so they do not report it.

MACS wrote:




This happened in MAINE which allows for Concealed Carry,

The RAND Corporation, a nonprofit, nonpartisan research and policy organization, analyzed firearm ownership in 2020 and created national and state-level estimates. It found that approximately 48% of adults in Maine live in households that own at least one gun

Effective October 15, 2015, Public Law 2015, Chapter 327 (LD 652), “An Act To Authorize the Carrying of Concealed Handguns without a Permit,” allows a person who is not otherwise prohibited from possessing a firearm to carry a concealed handgun in the State of Maine without a permit. This law also authorizes a person to possess a loaded pistol or revolver while in a motor vehicle, trailer or other vehicle being hauled by a motor vehicle.

Concealed carry without a permit is limited to people who are 21 or older, with the following exception: If a person is 18 years of age or older, and is on active duty in the Armed Forces of the United States or the National Guard, or has been honorably discharged from the Armed Forces or the National Guard, and is not otherwise prohibited from carrying a firearm, the person may carry a concealed handgun. A person who is 18-20 years old and without the referenced military qualifications must have a permit to carry concealed. The law applies to both residents of Maine and non-residents.

The law does not otherwise change where a person may carry or who may possess a firearm.


SO, almost 50% of the states adults have Guns, AND are allowed to Carry them... guess none of those people with guns are "good guys"


Mr. Jones
2 years ago
Makes zero sense to me. ..
Especially in this modern environment...

I was trained TO ALWAYS ADVANCE ON A THREAT WITH A WEAPON ...PRODUCE A WEAPON OR FIND ANYthing THAT CAN BE MADE INTO A WEAPON...
THE agressor never expects it and they get confused for a few seconds...those few seconds are totally critical and you gotta move fast with no hesitation at all....

I don't get what happened up there at all...my guess?
Someone had a gun but was untrained in that scenario and they froze BIG-TIME...( We will never hear about those scaredy cat freezing losers, they prolly got taken out? Anyway, the news will never report it)
And the owner of that business should've had a tactical shotgun loaded in his office...what a dumb ass he was and still is.
tonygraz
2 years ago
The AR-15 is a variant of the M16 which is made to kill people. They should be outlawed. If you really want to use one, UNcle Same needs you boy.
MACS
2 years ago
So? Maine is constitutional carry... good. How many states restrict that constitutional right? Around half.

My point is still valid. IF one of those Maine Yahoos WERE carrying, as they are legally allowed to do, they could have stopped the guy.

And good guys with guns stop bad guys more than you think. But the media either doesn't report it, or they report it as briefly as possible... they don't dwell on it like they do when bad guys go nuts.

Guns are tools. A tool is useless until the mechanic picks it up. You gonna blame drunk driving on the car?
DrafterX
2 years ago
they'll take my AR when they pry it from my cold dead fingers... 😟
drglnc
2 years ago

So? Maine is constitutional carry... good. How many states restrict that constitutional right? Around half.

My point is still valid. IF one of those Maine Yahoos WERE carrying, as they are legally allowed to do, they could have stopped the guy.

And good guys with guns stop bad guys more than you think. But the media either doesn't report it, or they report it as briefly as possible... they don't dwell on it like they do when bad guys go nuts.

Guns are tools. A tool is useless until the mechanic picks it up. You gonna blame drunk driving on the car?

MACS wrote:




So? If Constitutional carry was a thing in all 50 states it would not have changed the fact that these people in Maine are dead... in a state that it IS legal... it takes more the the right to carry... it takes the willingness and ability to act...
HockeyDad
2 years ago
A bowling alley and a bar. Sounds like gun-free zones.
MACS
2 years ago

A bowling alley and a bar. Sounds like gun-free zones.

HockeyDad wrote:



Exactly.
MACS
2 years ago

So? If Constitutional carry was a thing in all 50 states it would not have changed the fact that these people in Maine are dead... in a state that it IS legal... it takes more the the right to carry... it takes the willingness and ability to act...

drglnc wrote:



I'm not gonna lie to you. I live in a state that allows it. I still have a CCW just for reciprocity... and I don't carry my gun because I haven't found a holster that is comfortable enough and conceals my gun in shorts and a t-shirt... which is Florida weather about 9 out of 12 months.

Open carry is stupid. You're at a tactical disadvantage.
RobertHively
2 years ago

A bowling alley and a bar. Sounds like gun-free zones.

HockeyDad wrote:



It's just a suggestion.
RobertHively
2 years ago

That's because lots of states require permission to exercise a constitutional right. If more people were armed this shit wouldn't happen at all, or would be stopped quickly.

And it happens more than you know... but it doesn't fit the media narrative, so they do not report it.

MACS wrote:





On the internets this morning, I watched a guy walk into a mans cell phone store, he casually pulled out a gun--pointed it at the store owner.

The store owner proceeded to dump at least 10 rounds into the would be robber. Owner then ran out of the store and all you see is the criminal on the floor, twitching; that's the video.

Look for it tonight on NBC. Perhaps Lester Holt's opening monolog will be on the virtues of a well armed populace.

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