What exactly is a True Conservative?

Are Trump and the Right Wing Group of 8 defined as True Conservatives? Are you a True Conservative?

Who else is and by what standard? What are their attributes?

8trackdisco wrote:

We probably first should establish the correct terminology.

First it was people who cling to their guns and Bibles.
Then it was “deplorables”.
Now it is semi-fascist MAGA Republicans.

I supported Desantis but you pigeonholed me as a Trump guy.

Nikki is Davos WEF. She is the kind of Republican that stops the Democrats from adding 2 trillion to the national debt and negotiates them down to 1.6 trillion and declares victory. Let’s face it, she isn’t getting much support.

HockeyDad wrote:

Someone who is for limited government... much, much more limited than we have become. We've gone well and far beyond what was intended. Someone who is for supporting the constitution as it was written. There's no need to interpret sh*t. They said it plain and clear when they wrote it.

Someone who will not negotiate when it comes to getting a balanced budget. STOP the bleeding. STOP sending money to countries that hate us. Stop funding wars in other countries. Stop meddling in other countries' affairs and stop being the world police.

And finally... someone who will support term limits, and transparency when it comes to gov't officials money making. They want to see Trump's tax return?? I want to see ALL of theirs. How did people making 150k become multimillionaires?

MACS wrote:

It's my belief (call me crazy) that the fastest way to get there (or even close) is by electing someone they can't control.

Hmmm... who would that be? Who do they absolutely HATE? Who would they do anything to keep from getting elected?

Now... ask yourself WHY?

MACS wrote:

Someone who is for limited government... much, much more limited than we have become. We've gone well and far beyond what was intended. Someone who is for supporting the constitution as it was written. There's no need to interpret sh*t. They said it plain and clear when they wrote it.

Someone who will not negotiate when it comes to getting a balanced budget. STOP the bleeding. STOP sending money to countries that hate us. Stop funding wars in other countries. Stop meddling in other countries' affairs and stop being the world police.

And finally... someone who will support term limits, and transparency when it comes to gov't officials money making. They want to see Trump's tax return?? I want to see ALL of theirs. How did people making 150k become multimillionaires?

MACS wrote:

I supported Desantis but you pigeonholed me as a Trump guy.

Nikki is Davos WEF. She is the kind of Republican that stops the Democrats from adding 2 trillion to the national debt and negotiates them down to 1.6 trillion and declares victory. Let’s face it, she isn’t getting much support.

HockeyDad wrote:

Trump didn’t submit a budget that was in anyway balanced. Jus sayin’

On the other hand, I long for someone who has the nutz to say enough is enough. Someone who will say no more tax cuts for anyone until we pay down the debt. Someone who will say “we can’t afford _____, _____, and _____”. We need someone who isn’t afraid to submit a budget that cuts enough so that revenue exceeds expenditures by at least 10% and dedicates the surplus to debt reduction. Someone who will absolutely veto any spending bill that does not accomplish that. Someone who brave enough to tell Congress to get off their ass and send such a bill within the next 30 days.

Right now, no one on the campaign trail has speaks that message.

Abrignac wrote:

The candidate that stands for and delivers that will be a one term president.
I’m not even dreaming of a balanced budget, I’d take a 15% reduction YOY.
Plus, all the Dems and reps will cash-starve to death not getting their PAC money.

The candidates answer to them, not their voters.

8trackdisco wrote:

OP

When do you deploy?

RobertHively wrote:

Permanent tax cuts for the rich, not for everyone else.
Added seven trillion to the debt, didn’t stop or slow the financial bleeding.
Has never called for term limits.
Don’t see much in the area transparency. When have we seen Trump tax returns? He and his attorneys were negotiating the return of classified documents.
You personally, as a leader in the military, knows what good, quality leadership is and what it isn’t. About the only thing I can give Trump credit for is being Authentic. A quality leader serves his people, doesn’t rile them up to feed his ego and desire to show off his influence and acts like that man acted on January 6th.

Based on your own criteria, this man is not worthy of your vote.

8trackdisco wrote:

Trump didn’t submit a budget that was in anyway balanced. Jus sayin’

On the other hand, I long for someone who has the nutz to say enough is enough. Someone who will say no more tax cuts for anyone until we pay down the debt. Someone who will say “we can’t afford _____, _____, and _____”. We need someone who isn’t afraid to submit a budget that cuts enough so that revenue exceeds expenditures by at least 10% and dedicates the surplus to debt reduction. Someone who will absolutely veto any spending bill that does not accomplish that. Someone who brave enough to tell Congress to get off their ass and send such a bill within the next 30 days.

Right now, no one on the campaign trail has speaks that message.

Abrignac wrote:

Desantis is politically dead. Trump, Trump Light. It doesn’t matter if you drink Bud or Bud Light. It’s made by the same people.

Donald added 7 trillion to the deficit, yet you support him. Your actions don’t match your words.

8trackdisco wrote:

Actually that candidate would not get the pleasure of one term much less two.

Abrignac wrote:

Actually that candidate would not get the pleasure of one term much less two.

Abrignac wrote:

Obama added 9.3 trillion.
Trump added 7+ trillion.
Biden has already added 7 trillion.

See the trend?

HockeyDad wrote:

What are Democrats and Republicans, Alex?

Obama (who I didn’t and don’t support) added 4.65 trillion over four years? If we want to get more budget conscious, shouldn’t True Conservatives support Obama over Trump?

Biden only at 7 trillion? After all the Ukraine money and every lgbt+ shades of color Divide, Exclude, and Inequity crap and is only on par with Trump?

What did Trump spend up 7 trillion?… other than the obvious tax cuts for the rich? With all the money ZRX, MACS, and DMV have, I understand a little bit why they supported him.

8trackdisco wrote:

How much debt is added under a President is complicated because much of the laws that cause the debt were passed during the previous administration(s). Right now the laws are already passed to add 2 trillion a year in debt even if Biden loses.

To even slow it the new president and congress would have to repeal existing spending laws. Much of Trump’s debt addition was Covid related. (And those tax cuts you hate!)

HockeyDad wrote:

Where I differ from some of the other “far-righties” is I believe we are already in the doom loop. Game over. I’m just trying to stave off the national bankruptcy so I can get another 30 years and then croak.

HockeyDad wrote: