HockeyDad
2 years ago

So you agree with and support Trump on this. Got it. Thanks, HD.

8trackdisco wrote:



So what’s your opinion on it?
8trackdisco
2 years ago

So what’s your opinion on it?

HockeyDad wrote:



I disagree with his comment, I don’t support him.
frankj1
2 years ago
something like 10 years ago NATO member nations agreed to have a goal of 2% of their country's GDP toward their own national defense...
Not toss in a specified amount into the pot as there is no NATO Army per se, each nation sends some of their own if NATO intervenes...fighters, equipment, etc. to that hot spot in the world.

It's not a rule, and most have failed, though most have increased since then.

There is a common pot for other costs, and I believe the bigger hitters like us, England, Germany have been, by agreement, paying an outsized share, and this may be what Trump really meant though he likely didn't know it.

But the countries lagging on the GDP goal have not caused us to kick in more, they do not owe us.

at least this has been my understanding.

and no, I do not agree with telling Russia to do as they wish with our allies.

All this from a guy infamous for forcing small businesses to go under because he would not meet his contractual obligations, knowing they did not have the resources to pursue him endlessly in court upon completing their end of the contract.
DrafterX
2 years ago
Didn't they recently spend like a billion dollars on a new building to hang out in..?? 🤔
frankj1
2 years ago
we weren't invited...again
DrafterX
2 years ago
Ya.. bassards... 😠


prolly cause we're black... 😟
8trackdisco
2 years ago

Do you agree with Trumps position on this? Let Russia do whatever the hell they want?

8trackdisco wrote:



Wellllllllll (Judge Smails voice) we’re waiaiaiaiaiting!

DMV,
Do you agree with Trump that if NATO members have fallen behind on their 2% of GDP to be invested in their military, Russia 🇷🇺 can do “whatever the hell they want to them”?

Sure hope Canada isn’t underfunded. I’m practically a border state.
rfenst
2 years ago

What Trump said was correct but needs to remain behind closed doors.

HockeyDad wrote:


Another callous, dangerous, stupid comment. No matter whether it gets NATO nations to pay in more, it should have been a private conversation without a threat of openly giving Putin a "green light." And, it should never have been made public before he is President. Without any doubt, we have a serious enough economic interests in NATO countries remaining free of Russian expansion. Take a look at the percentages of U.S. imports and exports involving NATO countries.
HockeyDad
2 years ago
Canada is always underfunded. You better start learning the language. Dasvidaniya.

(By the way, this has already exited the news cycle.)

Have you heard about the national security threat involving Russia and space?

HockeyDad
2 years ago

Another callous, dangerous, stupid comment. No matter whether it gets NATO nations to pay in more, it should have been a private conversation without a threat of openly giving Putin a "green light." And, it should never have been made public before he is President. Without any doubt, we have a serious enough economic interests in NATO countries remaining free of Russian expansion. Take a look at the percentages of U.S. imports and exports involving NATO countries.

rfenst wrote:



That’s why I said it should have remained behind closed doors. It absolutely should have been said but we should never know about it. I also think he was talking about something from back when he was president, not anything current. Trump’s complaint with NATO is nations routinely underfunded their own defense with the assumption that the USA would come to their defense.

The USA got reluctantly dragged into WW1. The USA reluctantly got dragged into WW2. The NATO assumption is that this time the USA will jump in at the first sign of trouble for WW3.
ZRX1200
2 years ago
Well I shouldn’t expect people who think “Grab me in the 🐱”
and asking Russia to share Hillary info was real talk to get out of an old mindset.

Russia didn’t move on Ukraine because of Cheeto Jesus. Despite his HORRIBLE OUTRAGEOUS language. There was a coup we helped.

If you voted for Biden YOU aided and abetted Purim’s actions don’t complain to me.
ZRX1200
2 years ago

You really think he was ok with Russia just going into Poland for not contributing? BTW they contribute a higher % now than us…..


That is the question I’m asking you. He said what he said. I’m asking YOU. Trump made the statement the Russians can do whatever the hell he wants to the NATO countries that haven’t meant their financial commitments.

On this issue, do you support Trump’s statement or not?

8trackdisco wrote:



It’s a bit more complicated than do I support his statement.
I laid that out…

Do you think Putin took said statement in the way you’re perceiving it? I sure don’t….
HockeyDad
2 years ago
Last I checked Putin hasn’t attacked any NATO countries but I hear a lot of about he is going to soon unless I find 100 billion dollars.
8trackdisco
2 years ago

It’s a bit more complicated than do I support his statement.
I laid that out…

Do you think Putin took said statement in the way you’re perceiving it? I sure don’t….

ZRX1200 wrote:



I can't tell and wouldn't guess at what Putin is thinking, other than he smells weakness like a vicious dog.
You can tell me it is more complex and you can filibuster answering for as long as you like.

You either support Trumps statement or you don't.

Am a little surprised (not a whole lot) that some of you don't want to take a stand on these things. So much easier to tear down Biden than make a clear statement, based of Trumps words, on whether you support his statement or not.

(I'll make believe this is the spot where you are going to still not answer the question and point to things that Biden has said that blah, blah, blah, blah. blah.)
frankj1
2 years ago
Trump maybe got that blood poisoning of our country that's been going around
HockeyDad
2 years ago

Trump maybe got that blood poisoning of our country that's been going around

frankj1 wrote:



Covid?
HockeyDad
2 years ago
The inverse of this is if you disagree with what Trump said, you are committing to send money and troops to fight in a NATO war even if that country spent nothing on their defense. So I ask…..who you sending? I’m looking for family member names.
Gene363
2 years ago
NATO countries have been screwing US taxpayers for years.

I recall Admiral Zumwalt saying something like, If the US reduced our defense spending NATO countries will assume everything is so good they can reduce defence spending and if the US increased defense spending they will assume everything is so good they can reduce defense spending. 😣 😣 😣
DrafterX
2 years ago
He was just kiddin. 😟
ZRX1200
2 years ago
Well stay upset at him 8, you’re being a good voter.

Like DMV said that thread didn’t age well.

I’ve been here since W was in office and when engaged in these conversations I try to keep the filter of my time here with the responses of the past and present in mind.

Keep pressing us unworthy voters with poisoned questions, you either get the answer you want to justify your stance or claim high ground for being more intellectually honest by answering your question.

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