delta1
2 years ago
wow...we got a lotta farmers here in our dell...
jeebling
2 years ago
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RobertHively
2 years ago

Robert you can work the triple 16 in if you’d like. But just remember fertilizer always works its way down If you’re using a garden tiller yeah but don’t use like a plow and bury it a foot under the ground. I’d set my garden tiller on the lightest setting and just semi incorporate it

Yes the 32-0-0 will burn the leaves. (Liquid especially)

I’m sure you already know but if you can’t get those exact fertilizers just do the figures.

Example 10-10-10 means there’s 10 pounds of nitro phosphorus and potassium per 100 pounds of product. So you’d just need more

Ditto with the 32-0-0. (I use n-sol 32 liquid most often)

There’s 32 pounds of actual N per 100 pounds of product

You can just check out any bag of fertilizer and figure up what you need.

If you find lawn food even at like let’s say 30-0-2 (I’ve seen that blend) just use it. That little extra potassium isn’t gonna bother anything.

If you get that corn in real soon it should come off and give you plenty of time to grow broccoli or whatever you guys eat as a fall crop.

I mentioned for east math I just figured your plot into 1/25th of an acre. And used approximately what I’d try

Obviously in large scale farming you get your soil samples to know exactly what you have out the so we use some whacky blends you’re not likely to find on the shelf.

We have southern states around here too they doa little farm related applications here I just personally haven’t used them much, they’re a good company though. I use mainly growmark FS and nutrien ag

Jakethesnake86 wrote:



Southern States didn't have a lot to choose from. They were already sold out of the 32-0-0. I did get a 50 lb bag of triple 19 while I was there. The guy said they also had bags of "pure nitrogen", but I'm a noob when it comes to these fertilizers so I didn't buy any. How many pounds is pure? 100-0-0?

At Walmart they had 32-0-2 but only in 12.5 lb bags and it was $25.00 per bag. So I went with a 33.6 lb bag of 30-0-4.

I figured that since I was getting a little more nitro with my base layer (Triple 19) the 30-0-4 would be fine.

Couple questions:

1) Would it be ok to use that triple 19 as a base layer in my other non-corn garden as well?

2) Should I still just use 20 lbs of the 30-0-4 in my corn plot since the triple 19 has more nitro then the triple 16, or should I increase it a bit to make up for the fact that it's only 30% nitro instead of 32%?
Jakethesnake86
2 years ago
I don’t think he had pure nitrogen because I’ve never heard of it. Maybe he had some urea or something which would work fine. It’s like 50-0-0 which means 50 pounds of nitrogen in 100 pounds of product so it’s still only around 50%


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Jakethesnake86
2 years ago
Yeah I’d use that 19 in everything. If you are growing vegetables maybe find some potash (k) to add vegetables like that

I am check the math out later but the formula is just figuring on 1/25th of an acre on your plot.

So a 20 pound bag divide by 5 to see how many actual pounds of fertilizer your getting then multiply that number by 25 to get pounds per acre is how I did it Which still isn’t exact but it’s gonna get you close enough
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Jakethesnake86
2 years ago
95 pound of each with 20 pounds of 19
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RobertHively
2 years ago
I'm kinda confused on the formula. What math do you use?

I know absolutely nothing when it comes to using fertilizer.


Got any type of website that I could go to so my wife and I could learn?
Jakethesnake86
2 years ago
150 pounds of nitro on that Yeah I’d back off that top dress a little

Sim for 180-200 pounds of total n
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Stogie1020
2 years ago
Robert,

https://www.thespruce.com/fertilizer-numbers-7973985 

The three numbers are the ration of N-P-K (Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Potassium).
RobertHively
2 years ago

Thanks Stog. I'm going to check that out.

I normally do my gardening homework over the winter, but I hadn't planned on using anything other than the standard "garden mix" stuff this season.

Then I extended one of my plots in March, then decided to grow only corn there...
Jakethesnake86
2 years ago
Ok so I took your measurements and got the sq feet
Had to google how many square feet in an acre because I only know ratios per acre when I do farm stuff.

If I multiply your square footage times 25 I’m close enough to call it good. It’s not exact but for gardening yeah it’s fine

So all those numbers stogie pointed out,by law in order to sell fertilizer those are the pounds of each specific NPK per 100 pound bag (or jug of liquid)

Sooo I would take your 20 pound bag of 19 divide by 5 because 20x5=100 To get the actual analysis in your bag how many pounds of each NPK


Then multiply that number by 25 because I’m figuring using 1/25 of an acre. (Because that’s the only way I know how to tell you what I’d use)
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Jakethesnake86
2 years ago
So when I’m saying you’ll get 95 pounds of each out of 20 pounds 19

I mean 95 pounds per acre. I’m certain some gardeners use other figured but those figures don’t mean anything to me. (I don’t understand them)

I just broke it down so I could understand it
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JGRAZ
2 years ago
Just got my stuff planted today. Some okra, Japanese eggplant, cucumbers, zucchini, red bells, hot wax peps, long hots, & cherry, steak, and San Manzano tomatoes.
Tomorrow I'll get the grape vines in and get some fig trees in the ground as well.
Stogie1020
2 years ago
Fertilizer math is confusing...
Jakethesnake86
2 years ago
Agreed^

Also if you’ve never limed that plot Robert
I’d get 2 40 pound bags and put that on it too
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RobertHively
2 years ago

Ok went out and got the beginning sq ft numbers.

Garden A: 21x30 = 630 sq ft + 41x46= 1,886 sq ft.

630 + 1,886 = 2,516 sq ft

Garden B "corn plot": 70x25 = 1,750 sq ft

Combined gardens: 4,266 ft of garden with 8 foot fence.

That's about 1/10th of an acre.

From there I will use Jake's method to find out how much triple 19 to use as a base layer before we plant.






Side note: Next yr if I build that 50x50 that will be another 2,500 sq ft . So that will be 6,766 sq feet of 8 ft fence garden.

20 yrs from now my entire yard will be nothing but a jigsaw puzzle of fences covering our 4 acre yard. Lol! F those deer.
RobertHively
2 years ago

Agreed^

Also if you’ve never limed that plot Robert
I’d get 2 40 pound bags and put that on it too

Jakethesnake86 wrote:




I'll buy 3 for garden A and 2 for garden B next time I'm out. Hopefully I can make it up there later in the week. I'm gonna call em first to save myself from driving 50 miles round trip only to have them be out of it.
Jakethesnake86
2 years ago
Like usually will hold up 3 ish years but if you haven’t done it I highly recommend it. It helps more than most would think
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Abrignac
2 years ago
I’ve got some tomatoes planted. They look healthy in that the leaves are not wilted and the color seems ok but not as dark a green as I’d like. They also don’t seem to be growing as vigorously as I’d expect. They get sun all day and I water them every 2-3 days depending on relative dampness of the soil. When I planed them I scratched in about a tablespoon of organic tomato fertilizer around each plant.

I’m concerned that I might need to add some lime. They are in a raised bed which I made from ā€œgarden soilā€ purchased in bulk from a nursery. It seems to be mostly compost and small wood chips. It’s very dark colored. Not black but close. Anyone have any ideas?
jeebling
2 years ago
If it’s been at least a month I think another tablespoonful of fertilizer would be a good idea. The sun should start doing his magic right about now. Good luck with them. Homegrown tomatoes are one of my favorites.
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