Speyside2
2 years ago
RH has a viewpoint worth considering. Usually he and I completely disagree, but I learn from trying to understand his viewpoint. Basically I can learn something from everyone here.
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2 years ago
Want to talk genocide numbers?

Approximately 2.3 million Gazan residents.
Up to 35,000 total Gazan deaths claimed by Hamas.

That equals 1.5% (or so).



RobertHively
2 years ago
Stog answered a lot of my questions.

It made sense to me.

jeebling
2 years ago

RH has a viewpoint worth considering. Usually he and I completely disagree, but I learn from trying to understand his viewpoint. Basically I can learn something from everyone here.

Speyside2 wrote:



đź’Ż agree wholeheartedly
izonfire
2 years ago
I haven’t learned anything from anyone here,
But one thing I do know is that all you infidels must be slaughtered.

God willing…
Mr. Jones
2 years ago
I can "teach you much Obie wan kaaanooobeeee"
About the FBI-SSG, TRADECRAFT, & living thru 6 yrs of incessant gangstalking.....

JUST NEVER GIVE UP
ALWAYS FIGHT
NEVER GIVE IN
STUBBORNESS IS A GREAT ASSET...
Stogie1020
2 years ago

Want to talk genocide numbers?

Approximately 2.3 million Gazan residents.
Up to 35,000 total Gazan deaths claimed by Hamas.

That equals 1.5% (or so).



rfenst wrote:



Like I said, for a country as advanced as Israel, they sure seem to be really bad at the whole "genocide-ing" thing...
HockeyDad
2 years ago

Want to talk genocide numbers?

Approximately 2.3 million Gazan residents.
Up to 35,000 total Gazan deaths claimed by Hamas.

That equals 1.5% (or so).



rfenst wrote:




That’s only a little better than Covid numbers.
Speyside2
2 years ago
HD, good to know you find both sets of numbers acceptable. I expect the number of innocent Gazans is significantly lower. The following are only assumptions on my part. 50% of the deaths are either Hamas terrorists or rabid Hamas supporters such as those that have starved beaten and raped hostages in their homes. Now we are down to .75%. Hamas has doubled the casualty count. Now we are down to .375%. Given that most statistics run plus or minus 2% so there may be as many as 48,700 more Gazans than before the war started. I feel 98.2% comfortable stating this.

As a disclaimer this is 100% BS as is your SARS-Covid2 satire.
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2 years ago
Hezbollah Stumbles Into a War of Attrition
The Lebanese group isn’t ready for a larger conflict. Israel shouldn’t let that opportunity go to waste.

WSJ

Hezbollah, Iran’s most formidable proxy, barely lifted a finger when its patron fired more than 300 missiles and drones at Israel in the early hours of April 14. The Lebanese group fired a few dozen rockets but claimed it was in retaliation not for Israel’s killing Iranian Brig. Gen. Mohammad Reza Zahedi on April 1—Tehran’s point man in Lebanon and Syria—but for other airstrikes in southern Lebanon. The relative inaction was deliberate.

Hezbollah began attacking northern Israel on Oct. 8 to support Hamas, whose rampage killed some 1,200 Israelis and was soon to provoke an armed response. Yet by attacking Israel, Hezbollah embroiled itself in a war of attrition that it neither envisioned nor wanted. The fighting, according to the group’s tally, has cost it nearly 300 men, exposed its arsenal in Lebanon to Israeli attacks, and displaced thousands of its supporters.

The terror group is now stuck between its bellicose rhetoric and its fear of a popular backlash if it provokes a more intense confrontation with Israel. Though Hezbollah has vowed to fight until a cease-fire in Gaza, its response to Zahedi’s death shows it is looking for a way out of the clashes that are harming it more than its adversary.

Zahedi was a pivotal figure in the decadeslong relationship between Tehran and Hezbollah. A general in Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Quds Force, he was charged with building the regime’s proxies in the Levant. Zahedi served alongside Hezbollah during critical moments in its history, including the years before Israel’s May 2000 withdrawal from south Lebanon, the Syrian civil war, and the current skirmishes with Israel. These efforts reportedly earned him the honor of being the only non-Lebanese member of Hezbollah’s Shura Council, its supreme decision-making body.

Hezbollah has vowed that Zahedi’s death will be avenged but insisted that vengeance belongs to Iran alone. “Be absolutely certain,” thundered Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah in April, “Iranian retaliation for the attack on the consulate is coming, inevitably, upon Israel. This strike is coming and inevitable.” With each insistence, Mr. Nasrallah seemed to be emphasizing: The attacks will come from Iran—not us.

Hezbollah’s hesitation is owing in part to the poverty and chaos that have engulfed Lebanon in recent years. The country’s economy imploded in 2019 and hasn’t fully recovered. Lebanese citizens, including Hezbollah’s supporters, struggle to get food, electricity and other necessities.

While Hezbollah boasts significant military capabilities, it is nevertheless constrained for fear of public reprisal. The group has pulled its punches since October 2019, even as Israel has periodically crossed its red lines, either by killing fighters in Syria or by striking inside Lebanon. Its leaders are wary of the Lebanese street, whose financial miseries would only worsen if Hezbollah’s fighting provoked a conflagration with Israel. To conceal this predicament from its political base, Hezbollah exaggerates its successes and Israel’s weaknesses.

The group entered the fray on Oct. 8, likely hoping Israel’s preoccupation with Gaza and Western opposition to a simultaneous war in Lebanon would blunt the Israel Defense Forces’ retaliation. This would allow Hezbollah’s forces to project strength without incurring a proportionate cost. Tellingly, Hezbollah leaders have said repeatedly they don’t want a wider war with Israel but that they are ready for one.

Israel, for its part, hasn’t appreciated this rare opportunity to dictate advantageous rules of the game on its northern border. Though it is the stronger party, Jerusalem has allowed Hezbollah to define the terms of conflict to the terrorists’ benefit. Hezbollah fought the most intense phase of the Syrian civil war between 2011 and 2017 while casting only a wary gaze southward. It then embarked on recouping its losses in blood and treasure with relative ease. The group’s arsenal inside Lebanon has ballooned, and its political and social power has become nearly uncontestable.

Israel’s restraint has seemed to confirm Hezbollah’s larger argument about the Jewish state—that the “Zionist entity” is “weaker than a spider’s web” deterred by the resistance’s ability to destroy it. The group has thus been able to expand popular support, the cornerstone of its strength and durability.

The Israelis for years have been content to manage Hezbollah, willing to delay the limited confrontation necessary to gain the upper hand and avoid the international community’s opprobrium. Yet Oct. 7 demonstrated the lethal risk of trying to manage an opponent that is simultaneously planning to launch an attack at the right moment.

Notwithstanding its hesitations, Hezbollah has no intention of ending its pursuit of Israel’s destruction. By coupling a Gaza cease-fire with one in Lebanon, the group is essentially asking to be spared until its domestic situation, and those of its patron and allies, is more stable and its capabilities more lethal—ideally under an Iranian nuclear umbrella.

Israel therefore must press its advantage and exploit Hezbollah’s mistake of launching a war of attrition. Whatever happens in Gaza, Jerusalem must continue to hit the group and its assets, especially in Lebanon. If Israel accepts a cease-fire with Hezbollah, the group will continue to build its war machine until it is ready to use it to imperil the Jewish state once more.
BuckyB93
2 years ago
I shed no tears for the death of terrorist organizations. Some countries in the world build up their countries and cultures and use their resources to improve it and make it a better place to live. Others use their resources to pick fights and build up terrorist organizations and then try to claim that they are the victims.

Sorry Hamas, I have no sympathy for you and I hope you get exterminated.
Mr. Jones
2 years ago
Manifestos = BAAAAAAADDDDD
rfenst
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2 years ago
Hezbollah = Hamas
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2 years ago
Hamas Claims Rocket Attack That Closes Key Crossing Between Israel and Gaza
The Israeli military said that about 10 rockets were fired toward Kerem Shalom, a conduit for aid into Gaza. Several people were injured, Israel’s public broadcaster said.


NYT

A yellow ambulance vehicle with a few people in uniforms standing near it. Some are in military attire.
Israeli soldiers and medics by an ambulance in southern Israel near the border with Gaza on Sunday.Credit...Amir
Hamas said on Sunday that its armed wing had fired rockets at Israeli forces near the Kerem Shalom border crossing between Gaza and Israel. Kan, Israel’s public broadcaster, reported that the attack injured several people.

The Israeli military said about 10 rockets had been fired from an area near the Rafah crossing between Gaza and Egypt toward Kerem Shalom.

Kerem Shalom is one of the few crossings through which humanitarian aid is able to enter the Gaza Strip. After the attack on Sunday, the army said it was closed to the passage of aid trucks.

Israel’s Foreign Ministry condemned the attack and said it showed that Hamas was not interested in having aid enter the territory, parts of which a United Nations official says are experiencing “a full-blown famine.”

The ministry said that while the army was “facilitating humanitarian aid to the people of Gaza through the Kerem Shalom crossing, terrorists fire rockets into the same area.”

“Israel remains committed to providing lifesaving aid while Hamas remains committed to destroying lives,” it added.

After the attack, Itamar Ben-Gvir, Israel’s national security minister and a far-right member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s cabinet, urged Mr. Netanyahu to authorize a long-anticipated military assault on Rafah.

“We did not attack Gaza and we got Oct. 7,” Mr. Ben-Gvir said in a statement posted online. “We didn’t attack Rafah and we got a precision attack, Netanyahu, go to Rafah now!”
Speyside2
2 years ago
Perhaps everyone should stop saying pro-Palestinian and use pro-Hamas instead. The rest of the world including Israel cares about the people of Gaza to varying degrees, Hamas does not. They only care about killing all Jews and eradicating Israel. Hamas shut down a land-based point of entry of aid for Gazans. They deliberately did so.
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2 years ago

Perhaps everyone should stop saying pro-Palestinian and use pro-Hamas instead. The rest of the world including Israel cares about the people of Gaza to varying degrees, Hamas does not. They on care about killing all Jews and eradicating Israel. Hamas shut down a land-based point of entry of aid for Gazans. They deliberately did so.

Speyside2 wrote:


That would be an excellent re-framing of the terminology.
Speyside2
2 years ago
Middle east terrorism has a direct connection to Nazi Germany. Terrorism was created by Otto Skorzeny a Nazi commando officer, as a form of resistance for the side losing a war. The German terrorists were called werewolves, Skorzeny and his commandos trained them. During WW2 Muslims in Palestine were pro-Nazi. Specifically, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin-Al Husseini. If you read his history with Nazi Germany, you will learn some horrific facts. Otto Skorzeny wrote the original book on terrorist tactics and trained those who would become the PLO. If the Germans had taken El Alamein in Egypt in all likelihood, they would have taken Cairo and Egypt. Egypt would have become a Nazi country. Hamas and all middle eastern terrorist groups are a continuation of the Holocaust on Jews by Nazi Germany, one of the real genocides in world history.
Mr. Jones
2 years ago
Baaaaaddddd
Equals
Manifesto's

Bwuhahahahaha!!!
ths55
2 years ago
I think you would enjoy History of Islam, I read it a few years ago... Islam have been at war with the "infidel" since it's inception. Have only read the start of your post ,but seems you are right on the money. I don't argue with people that say "not all Muslim are evil", they probably aren't, but as a Christian, I have to say, if Iran stopping fighting tomorrow, there would be peace, if Israel stopped fighting tomorrow, they would be eliminated, ( stole that quote from Golda Meir).
jeebling
2 years ago
Finished reading the Hamas Covenant today. There’s an ironclad way to know if Hamas wants to murder you. Are you a Jew? Yes? They want to murder you. Not a Jew? Meh…they probably want to murder you too.
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