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drglnc
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a year ago

#41

My fave moment was the very beginning the Forced hand shake that you could tell he was not prepared for and then her introducing herself so he can not say he doesn't know her name or how to say it...

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#42

JGKAMIN...we all saw the same. Thanks for posting it.

"So today, in solidarity with those protesting, I am asking for your help if you are able:

Will you make a contribution to the Minnesota Freedom Fund, an organization working on the ground in Minnesota to post bail for arrested protestors?

Breonna Taylor should still be alive today.

Ahmaud Arbery should still be alive today.

George Floyd should still be alive today.

The horrific killings of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and Ahmaud Arbery are not isolated incidents but the result of broader systemic racism in our country.

These protests will continue until those who murdered George Floyd are held accountable. So until then, the protestors on the front lines need our help.

In solidarity,

Kamala"

https://kamalaharris.medium.com/america-is-in-pain-right-now-76f07b9d8caa [/i]

Talk about fanning the flames to enrage.[-(

Edited by user a year ago | Reason: Not specified

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#43

My fave moment was the very beginning the Forced hand shake that you could tell he was not prepared for and then her introducing herself so he can not say he doesn't know her name or how to say it...

drglnc wrote:

I liked his reply better..."I know who you are."

You can bet a ton o' cash her boss doesn't!!!![frypan] [frypan] [frypan]

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#44

OH - NO !! Trump was a VICTIM AGAIN!! 😂

He did say babies were being aborted in the 9th month and also killed after birth - LIE! And she called him out for being the criminal that he is.
She rattled him.

But I get it boys - If the poor old man f*cks up, fails and loses it during the debate it's because he was not treated "fairly".

Guess he is a loser and a victim because we did fire him 4 years ago.

Poor Don.

Brewha wrote:

Victim?

Look, at least watch the video. NOBODY is claiming he's a victim.

Brewha
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

a year ago

#45

Victim?

Look, at least watch the video. NOBODY is claiming he's a victim.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

I look at the video - and watched all of the debate - and heard Trump whining about it this morning!

It was THREE ON ONE !!1 😂

They should lose their license !! 😂

Trump says he was a victim - again. Big surprise, huh?

jeebling
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#46

I do not think Trump performed well. I also think the moderators were very biased in that they didn’t do their research and allowed some lies and misleading statements from Harris and blocked some comments from Trump that were not verified “lies”.

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#47

Brewha wrote:

Victim? I don't think so. I believe he wanted it to be fair, but that debate wasn't fair...at all.

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#48

Pretty much how I described to my wife how it went...

Debate Post-Mortem: Trump Was Trump, Harris Held Up, And Moderators Played Partisan Tricks

The initial reaction to last night's debate was that Trump was Trump, the moderators became debaters, and Harris, while nervous and rehearsed, didn't crash and burn - leading to an initial kneejerk in the betting markets favoring the Vice President's odds in November.

Bettors on @Polymarket saw this debate as an out-performance for Kamala
* Trump went from +7 to even odds
* 97% chance Kamala won debate according to polls (74% before debate)
* Kamala up 3% to win popular vote

No major gaffes or terrible moments for Harris pic.twitter.com/8cGAJN07MM
— Nikolai Yakovenko (@ivan_bezdomny) September 11, 2024

While some conservative sites have called the debate for Trump, along with speaker Mike Johnson...

Mike Johnson on Fox Business insists Trump actually won the debate, citing polls from Newsmax and the Daily Caller (sounds legit) pic.twitter.com/NXzLihRTpx
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 11, 2024

...most on the left are celebrating - with Punchbowl News writing that "Tuesday night's debate couldn't have gone better for Harris."

Politico writes: "Trump's Improv Stood No Chance Against Harris' Coached Attacks."

Harris’ strategy in her first debate as a presidential nominee was custom-tailored for one specific moment and one specific opponent. She plainly used her long days of debate prep in a Pittsburgh hotel to compile a rich anthology of taunts, putdowns and derisive one-liners against former President Donald Trump.

Of course, Trump was in a 3-on-1 debate:

This clip may be the most egregious example of ABC debate moderators' direct actions/inactions to affect viewers’ perceptions of the information presented at the debate.

There are at least seven instances of this within a two-minute span.

This is not “bias."

It’s much worse.… pic.twitter.com/tYJhZwGwdW
— Western Lensman (@WesternLensman) September 11, 2024

And Harris was allowed to get away with murder:

https://t.co/7JKIrEGgXe
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) September 11, 2024

In fact, here are the 'top 5 lies' that ABC News moderators failed to fact-check via Collin Rugg:

1. Mandatory Firearm Buybacks:

Kamala Harris told Trump to "stop lying" about her wanting to confiscate firearms. Harris has previously stated multiple times that she wants to launch a mandatory buyback program.

The ABC moderators said nothing.

2. "Fine People" Hoax:

Kamala Harris claimed Trump called neo-N*zi's "very fine people." This hoax was debunked by Snopes but the ABC moderators let it slide.

The ABC moderators said nothing.

3. Post-Birth Abortion:

Trump claimed babies were 'k*lled' outside the womb in failed abortions. Under Tim Walz, babies born alive in botched abortions are allowed to be left to d*e.

Eight babies who survived abortions in Minnesota were abandoned and sadly perished under Walz.

The ABC moderators simply said Trump was lying and moved on without adding context.

4. Defund the Police:

Kamala Harris laughed when Trump said she wanted to defund the police. During a previous interview, Harris said having more cops on the street is "wrong."

She also supported taking police officers out of schools.

The ABC moderators said nothing.

5. Bloodbath Hoax:

Kamala Harris claimed Trump said there would be a bl**dbath if he is not elected, insinuating that his supporters would start k*lling people.

This is completely false. The comment was made during a rally where Trump said there would be a "bl**dbath" for the American auto industry if he is not elected.

The ABC moderators said nothing.

Top 5 lies that the ABC News moderators refused to fact-check or falsely fact-checked during the debate:

1. Mandatory Firearm Buybacks:

Kamala Harris told Trump to "stop lying" about her wanting to confiscate firearms. Harris has previously stated multiple times that she wants… pic.twitter.com/6aXznDnq7O
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) September 11, 2024

While Goldman notes that the debate "seems to have gone in favor of Harris judging by betting markets and the reaction in assets overnight.," ING suggest a 'wait and see' approach, writing this AM: "Markets may want to wait on new opinion polls in the coming days to take more decisive positions on the election," adding "For now, indications that Harris won this debate, even if by a small margin, can keep a lid on the dollar."

That said, according to Reuters, 70% of an admittedly small polling group of undecided voters said they would either vote for Trump, or were leaning towards backing him.

The encounter was particularly important for Harris, with a weekend New York Times/Siena College opinion poll showing that more than a quarter of likely voters feel they do not know enough about her, in contrast to the well-known Trump.

The Trump converts said they trusted him more on the economy, even though all said they did not like him as a person. They said their personal financial situation had been better when he was president between 2017-2021. Some singled out his proposal to tax foreign imports, although economists say that is likely to raise prices.

Meanwhile, the media is already starting to lie and gaslight. For starter's the New Yorker's Susan Glasser has never heard of Harris' plan that would support taxpayer-funded gender care and transition surgeries for detained illegal aliens.

Trump made history last night for sure. Who will ever forget him ranting on stage about immigrants eating people's dogs? Or insisting that the Vice President 'wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in jail'?

My piece on Trump's too-crazy moment:…
— Susan Glasser (@sbg1) September 11, 2024

Except it's true, and CNN even covered it:

Apparently, @sbg1 and fact checkers at the @NewYorker have not heard of this news outlet called CNN.

https://t.co/b1NCH29c3v pic.twitter.com/EtOu19RAxy
— Paul D. Thacker (@thackerpd) September 11, 2024

Many are saying this won't move the needle much in either direction.

My debate analysis won't make anyone happy. I think Kamala was weak and nervous, especially early. She came off as phony and rehearsed the rest of the way. But Trump missed a lot of opportunities to land a blow, rambled too much, and took the bait repeatedly throughout. I don't…
— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) September 11, 2024

Of course Harris wants a 2nd debate...

That said, as ZeroHedge friend and contributor "Quoth the Raven" suggests, the debate will backfire for both Harris and ABC...

After last night, when the average critically thinking, independent or moderate voter begins to emerge from the visceral reaction of who “won” the debate, the picture will start to come into focus. And it’ll be a picture of a news network that constantly tried to fact-check Donald Trump, despite Kamala Harris repeating multiple debunked conspiracy theories, like Trump’s Charlottesville comments, which were already debunked by Snopes, and his “bloodbath” comment, which was used in the context of talking about the auto industry.

...

More people know today that the left-leaning media has a narrative and lies to them than ever before. This debate will be different from other ones because it’ll eventually be looked at in that context. And when people go back and watch how the moderators constantly argued the merits with Trump while leading Harris in her answers to multiple questions, this debate will be revealed for the biased farce that it was. And then — mark my words — it will do more harm than good for Kamala Harris.

the #debate in a nutshell pic.twitter.com/yDOPL5wVSL
— Skscartoon (@skscartoon) September 11, 2024

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/debate-post-mortem-trump-was-trump-harris-held-and-moderators-played-partisan-tricks

...except I described it as Trump was Trump and let her get under his skin once the game was afoot that he wasn't part of the menage a trois...Harris did better than her boss and he did worse than a dead man.

ZRX1200
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#49

The “moderators” live fact checking one and NEVER fact checking the other was priceless, especially with her whoppers.

How in TF does CNN get this more right than ABC? Maybe their ratings had their staff eating cats and bald eagles, ABC has those big Disney pockets to lean on.

Brewha
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

a year ago

#50

Victim? I don't think so. I believe he wanted it to be fair, but that debate wasn't fair...at all.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Looked totally fair to me.
And after the lie-a-thon last time with Biden he should be called out everytime his lips move.
And they only check him on the truly egregious lies. He said that Harris had no one at her rallies - and we all know she is kicking his ass.

And if Trump thinks it was not far he should have manned up then and their rather than sniveling later.

It was a solid fail - and now the supporters get to try and spin it. Just like his sexual harassment judgements, like his indictments, convictions, and failure to get re-elected: it's always someone else who was mean to poor Don.

He really is a terrible liar.

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#51

21 False Claims & Hoaxes by Kamala Harris that ABC’s Debate Moderators Did Not Fact Check

Vice President Kamala Harris issued a slew of false claims and hoaxes that ABC debate moderators did not fact check during Tuesday’s debate against former President Donald Trump.

Here are 21 false claims and hoaxes that Harris uttered on live television, in front of millions of Americans:

1. “Very fine people” hoax

Harris claimed Trump called neo-Nazis in Charlottesville “very fine people,” a widely known hoax that Democrats continue to repeat, despite it being debunked for years by numerous outlets, including by the left-wing fact checking website Snopes.

2. Project 2025 hoax

Harris accused Trump of wanting to implement Project 2025. This is false. Trump has repeatedly stated that he has nothing to do with it and hasn’t even read it.

Trump promptly corrected Harris on the debate stage, saying, “I have nothing to do — as you know, and as she knows, better than anyone — I have nothing to do with Project 2025. I haven’t read it, I don’t want to read it, purposely. I’m not going to read it.”

“I have nothing to do [with it],” Trump added. “Everybody knows I’m an open book. Everybody knows what I’m going to do: cut taxes very substantially, and create a great economy like I did before.”

3. False claims on Trump trade deficit

Harris claimed “the Trump administration resulted in a trade deficit” that was “one of the highest we’ve ever seen in the history of America.” This is patently false.

The trade deficit climbed to around $653 billion in Trump’s final year as president, in part because of depressed global demand for U.S. goods and services and a U.S. economy that recovered sooner than most other developed economies.

But the trade deficit never rose to the levels seen under former President George W. Bush or the Biden-Harris administration.

4. Putin can “do whatever the hell he wants”

Harris claimed that Trump told Russian President Vladimir Putin that he could “do whatever the hell he wants and go into Ukraine.” This is false. Trump never told Putin he could do “whatever the hell he wants,” and he never told Putin he could invade Ukraine.

To add insult to injury, this false claim is also coupled with stark gaslighting, given that Putin appears to be doing whatever he wants during the Biden-Harris administration — such as invading Ukraine — and not during the Trump administration.

5. “Dictator on day one” hoax

Harris claimed that Trump “wants to be a dictator on day one.” This is false. Trump has never said this.

Oddly, Harris attempted to justify her false claim by making another false claim (the aforementioned erroneous claim coupled with gaslighting), which was that the 45th president told Putin he could “do whatever the hell he wants.”

Remarkably, Harris failed to mention that Putin has actually been doing whatever he wants during the Biden-Harris administration.

6. Blaming botched Afghanistan withdrawal on Trump

In another example of never before seen levels of gaslighting, Harris blamed her and Biden’s disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal on Trump.

After being asked point blank, “Do you believe you bear any responsibility in the way that withdrawal played out?” Harris segued to talking about Trump’s communications with the Taliban, suggesting that the Biden-Harris administration is not responsible for its own botched Afghanistan withdrawal.

This is not the first time Harris falsely claimed Trump is responsible for her and Biden’s botched Afghanistan withdrawal. Last week, her campaign tried to blame it on Trump — even though it happened seven months after he left office — claiming he didn’t give the Biden-Harris administration any “plans” on what to do.

7. Putin “would be sitting in Kyiv”

Harris claimed Putin “would be sitting in Kyiv with his eyes on the rest of Europe” if Trump were president. This is false.

Russia under Putin invaded neighbors during the George Bush, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden administrations, but never during the Trump administration.

8. “Bloodbath” hoax

Harris also repeated the “bloodbath” hoax, falsely claiming that Trump called for a “bloodbath” if he lost the election.

This is a long-debunked hoax, as Trump was referring to the car industry.

9. Abortion “monitor” hoax

Harris claimed that Trump wanted an abortion “monitor.” This is false. Trump has never said anything like that.

This is not the first time Harris has used this false statement. Breitbart News fact-checked this claim when she made it at the Democratic National Convention. Notably, Harris has never provided the basis for her claim, which is calculated to scare voters, but is simply fictitious.

While making this claim, Harris also uttered another false claim that Trump seeks to implement a “national abortion ban.” Trump has repeatedly stated that he would not sign a federal abortion ban. Additionally, abortion is not a federal issue. It is a state issue.

10. Rental property hoax

Harris claimed that Trump “refused to rent property to black families.” This is false.

The claim has been made for years, but it has never been proven. In 2016, the Associated Press did a fact checked on the claim, reporting that Trump and his father settled a government lawsuit about it with no admission of fault.

11. Central Park Five “execution” hoax

Harris claimed that Trump called for the “execution” of the Central Park Five. This is false.

Trump never specifically called for the “execution” of the Central Park Five defendants. Breitbart News fact-checked this claim when Democrats made it at their convention last month.

12. “Suckers and losers” hoax

Harris alluded to the “suckers and losers” hoax by claiming that Trump had disparaged the military, including the fallen. This is false.

The false claim that Trump called dead soldiers “suckers and losers” is a familiar hoax that has also been repeated by President Joe Biden. It stems from a report by the left-wing Atlantic, which has never been directly corroborated, and has been refuted by many eyewitnesses.

13. False fracking claims

Harris claimed she never called to ban fracking. This is false, as she explicitly called to end fracking when running for president in 2019.

14. False oil production claims

Harris claimed that the Biden-Harris administration ramped up oil production. This is false. The Biden-Harris administration has actively worked to curb domestic oil production.

Early in the administration, Biden ordered the secretary of the Interior Department to halt new oil and natural gas leases on public lands and waters, and review existing permits for fossil fuel development. In 2023, the Biden-Harris administration canceled oil leases sold by the Trump administration in the Alaskan wildlife refuge and blocked new drilling.

15. National Sales Tax

Harris accused Trump of proposing a national sales tax. This is false. President Trump has not proposed a national sales tax.

During the debate, Harris referred to a “Trump sales tax” and claimed it would add 20 percent to the cost of goods. She was likely referring to Trump’s proposal to raise tariffs on imports.

But tariffs are paid by companies that import goods from abroad and not by consumers. They are not a sales tax.

16. Distorting unemployment figures

Harris claimed that Trump “left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression.” This is false, as unemployment was 6.4 percent in January 2021, not far from full employment, when Trump left office.

17. “I was raised middle-class”

Harris claimed she had a middle-class upbringing, saying, ” I was raised as a middle-class kid, and I am actually the only person on this stage who has a plan that is about lifting up the middle class and working people of America.”

This is mostly false. Harris had a rich Canadian upbringing, growing up in Westmount — a majority English neighborhood in the French province of Quebec.

Amusingly, Harris made her “middle-class” claim while completely dodging the question, “Do you believe Americans are better off than they were four years ago?” — and again, ABC moderators never brought her back on track to the question at hand.

18. “Terminating” the Constitution

Harris claimed that Trump wants to “terminate” the U.S. Constitution. This is false. Trump does not want to “terminate” the Constitution and has refuted this lie himself.

Her claim likely stems from Trump’s reaction in 2022 to a bombshell New York Post report that the Democrat Party colluded with what was then known as Twitter to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story ahead of the 2020 presidential election.

“The Fake News is actually trying to convince the American People that I said I wanted to ‘terminate’ the Constitution,” Trump said in a 2022 Truth Social post. “This is simply more DISINFORMATION & LIES, just like RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA, and all of their HOAXES & SCAMS.”

“What I said was that when there is ‘MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION,’ as has been irrefutably proven in the 2020 Presidential Election, steps must be immediately taken to RIGHT THE WRONG,” Trump added.

19. “Sold us out” to China

Harris claimed that Trump “sold us out” to the Chinese government with policies that “ended up selling American chips to China.” This is false.

The Trump administration blocked the takeover of an American semiconductor maker by a Chinese investor, restricted exports to China’s top chipmaker, and largely limited sales to China and even to third countries who do business with Chinese companies considered a national security threat, such as the telecommunications company Huawei.

In another example of blatant gaslighting, the Biden-Harris administration reportedly started greenlighting third party suppliers to sell chips to Huawei in 2021.

20. “Not one” troop in any war zone

Harris claimed there are currently no active-duty troops in any combat zone anywhere around the world for the first time this century. This is false.

There are currently active duty U.S. troops deployed to Iraq and Syria who have been under frequent attack by Iran-backed militia forces over the past year. There are also thousands of active-duty U.S. sailors deployed to the Middle East who are facing attacks by drone strikes and missiles fired by the Iran-backed Houthi forces in Yemen. Earlier this year, three U.S. soldiers were killed on the border of Syria by Iran-backed forces.

21. Taking guns away

Harris claimed that she and her running mate Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz (D) “are not taking anyone’s guns away.” This is false. Harris has campaigned on banning AR-15s and other guns that Democrats label “assault weapons.”

Just last month, during their first campaign event together, Harris and Walz pushed for a ban on AR-15s and other guns.

While ABC’s debate moderators Linsey Davis and David Muir failed to fact-check the plethora of false claims and hoaxes uttered by Harris, they frequently tried to fact-check Trump, with Muir even bizarrely fact-checking a joke the 45th president had previously made.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/21-kamala-harris-false-claims-hoaxes-that-debate-moderators-did-not-fact-check/

Weird

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#52

Brewha wrote:

That looked fair to you? We don't have the same critical thinking approach to viewing a debate then.

Harris can form sentences...albeit most of the time it's word salad convoluted sputum.

It's EXACTLY like Megyn Kelly stated in the hour long vid with supported media types...some left...some right. The ones on the left offered some Twilight Zone versions of reality that don't exist but I suppose you'd believe them.

As far as his court cases...they're tumbling like dominoes. The ones you claim as a win...they too will get overturned and you'll be left with the same bag of proof Adam Schiff was left holding.

Reuters Focus Group: Undecided Voters Lean Trump 2-to-1 After Debate

"Although pundits declared Vice President Kamala Harris the clear winner of Tuesday night’s debate, former President Trump won six of ten undecided voters in a Reuters focus group. Harris only won three. A New York Times survey of undecideds had similar results.

The debate, which was widely criticized for bias on the part of the ABC News moderators, was mostly seen as a draw between Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris. “These ‘moderators’ are complete hacks,” Michael Knowles posted on X. “It’s three on one, and Trump is still winning!”

Some political pundits predicted the debate would have little effect on the election. According to a Reuters sampling, however, six out of ten undecided voters said they were leaning towards Trump due to Harris’s “vague” answers and because they “trusted” Trump more on the economy, the top issue of the 2024 cycle.

Reuters reported:

Reuters interviewed 10 people who were still unsure how they were going to vote in the Nov. 5 election before they watched the debate. Six said afterward they would now either vote for Trump or were leaning toward backing him. Three said they would now back Harris and one was still unsure how he would vote.

…

Five said they found Harris vague during the more than 90-minute debate on how she would improve the U.S. economy and deal with the high cost of living, a top concern for voters.

…

Four of those six also said Harris did not convince them she would pursue different economic policies than Democratic President Joe Biden, a Democrat they largely blame for the high cost of living.

Six of the undecided voters were men, four were women, and all have previously voted for Democrat and Republican candidates.

“I felt like the whole debate was Kamala Harris telling me why not to vote for Donald Trump instead of why she’s the right candidate,” said Robert Wheeler, a security firm executive in Nevada who was leaning toward Harris before the debate.

“I still don’t know what she is for,” an entrepreneur from Florida, Mark Kadish, said. “There was no real meat and bones for her plans.”

Reuters’ report is supported by New York Times interviews of undecided voters following the debate. “Trump’s pitch was a little more convincing than hers,” Keilah Miller from Milwaukee, a previous Democrat voter, said. “I guess I’m leaning more on his facts than her vision.”

“When Trump was in office — not going to lie — I was living way better,” she said. “I’ve never been so down as in the past four years. It’s been so hard for me.”"

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/09/11/abc-news-debate-causes-undecided-voters-vote-or-lean-trump/

I dunno...maybe you can tell people here what her plans for America are.

Edited by user a year ago | Reason: Not specified

drglnc
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#53

personally, i thought the moderators did a bad job over all. as did whomever was in charge of muting/unmuting the mikes.

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#54

personally, i thought the moderators did a bad job over all. as did whomever was in charge of muting/unmuting the mikes.

drglnc wrote:

True dat.

They allowed too many rebuttals...and left mic's open and the podiums were too close to pick up her yelling.

Rules are rules in a debate and are agreed upon beforehand.

The blatent "fact checking" which was the presstitutes running static for her were appalling. I would NEVER watch anything else involving them again based upon their performances last night. To not bump Harris' bit over "facts" was the tell of the night. It was 3 against 1 despite what posters here want to claim. Those are just facts.

Edited by user a year ago | Reason: Not specified

Brewha
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

a year ago

#55

The moderators fact checked trump 5 times, Harris 0.

Harris did - stretch the truth and/or fact stack at times. But there is a line between a politicians opinion and a genuine lie.

But Trump was fact checked on egregious lies. Saying people execute babies within the law, immigrants are eating pets, Crime is through the roof, saying proof of a stolen election exists - Jesus man.

But of course, Trump NEVER lies - right?

I will give you this - MAGA must keep the standard story that if there is anything less than perfect about Trump, it is someone else fault. And I know Breitbart is just doing their job - but damn - I just gotta laugh.

Brewha
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

a year ago

#56

Anyway - Moderators notwithstanding, I think the debate showed both candidates fairly well.

They should do it again - maybe without fact checking. If Don can dry his eyes.....

jeebling
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#57

Harris lying montage…a few were left out:

https://youtube.com/shorts/UXM-NuZix48?si=cF96zGcZX2bnZzoD

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#58

But Trump was fact checked on egregious lies. Saying people execute babies within the law, immigrants are eating pets, Crime is through the roof, saying proof of a stolen election exists - Jesus man.

But of course, Trump NEVER lies - right?

I will give you this - MAGA must keep the standard story that if there is anything less than perfect about Trump, it is someone else fault. And I know Breitbart is just doing their job - but damn - I just gotta laugh.

Brewha wrote:

On Abortion

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Gov. Northam on abortion in late trimesters to include after birth!

MCCL’s new TV and digital ad explains that Minnesota law allows abortion for any reason and at any time during pregnancy—and that some lawmakers and advocates now want to enshrine this extreme policy in the Minnesota Constitution.

But is the ad true? Are its claims accurate? Yes, they are. Everything in the ad is demonstrably correct. Below are responses (with supporting evidence) to common questions.

Does Minnesota law really allow abortion for any reason—all the way up to birth?

Yes. In 2023, lawmakers enacted a “fundamental right” to abortion (HF 1) with no limitations at any stage in pregnancy (legislators rejected dozens of amendments that would have made the law more moderate, including amendments to prevent elective abortions in the third trimester). Lawmakers in 2023 also repealed a 1974 law that had limited abortion after viability, leaving no gestational limit remaining in Minnesota statute (SF 2995). Now, in 2024, some want to enshrine this sweeping policy in the Minnesota Constitution so that future lawmakers won’t be able to legislate on the issue.

https://www.mccl.org/post/let-s-check-the-facts-mccl-s-new-ad-and-the-truth-about-abortion-in-minnesota

Haitians in Ohio Eating Wildlife

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/illegal-alien-ms-13-gang-member-enrolled-maryland-high-school-murder-suspect [/i][/color]

https://revolver.news/2024/09/shocking-update-pet-eating-haitians-in-ohio-not-even-the-worst-part-of-latest-harris-biden-migrant-deception/

We've got deeper problems than Haitians foisted into an Ohio community eating wildlife.

?si=3Ho7qZFzJZT3bcHI

https://rumble.com/v5eglea-exclusive-police-audio-confirm-haitian-goose-hunting-in-ohio-they-all-had-g.html [/i][/color]

Crime Stats

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/07/13/fbi-crime-rates-data-gap-nibrs

This has ALL been covered here. ALL OF IT. Can't plead ignorance.

PS: All Breitbart did was source the NYT and Reuters. Blame the source though...still?

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RayR
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#59

Harris lying montage…a few were left out:

https://youtube.com/shorts/UXM-NuZix48?si=cF96zGcZX2bnZzoD

jeebling wrote:

Hispanic U.S.-based attorney Maria Herrera Mellado has a list too.

The Lies of Kamala Harris in the Debate That Univisión and Telemundo Will NEVER Tell Hispanics. Compare and Debunk Them

Let’s highlight some of the LIES from the debate:

– Kamala falsely claimed that «no U.S. military members… are currently serving in combat zones.»
– Kamala falsely claimed she does not support government-controlled healthcare (she does).
– Kamala denied supporting a ban on fracking (she does) and the mandatory confiscation of firearms (she does).
– Kamala said, «That’s not true» when President Trump pointed out her support for defunding the police, something she has repeatedly called for.
– Kamala denied raising money to bail out criminals during the «Summer of Love» in 2020, but her tweet is still up.
– Kamala falsely claimed that President Trump supports «Project 2025,» even though he has never been involved.
– Kamala falsely claimed that Tim Walz didn’t legalize abortion on demand up until birth in Minnesota, which is exactly what he did.
– Kamala claimed President Trump supports a national abortion ban (he doesn’t) and wants to ban IVF (he doesn’t).
– Kamala resurrected the Charlottesville hoax, which fact-checkers have repeatedly debunked.

Here’s what Kamala couldn’t explain:

– Why she allowed more than 10 million illegal immigrants to invade the country.
– Why she destroyed the economy and increased inflation.
– Why she supports the killing of over 1 million American babies per year in the womb.
– Why she destroyed the country with weak crime policies.
– Why she fully supported the incompetence of the Afghanistan withdrawal that left 13 American servicemen dead.

https://gatewayhispanic.com/2024/09/the-lies-of-kamala-harris-in-the-debate-that-univision-and-telemundo-will-never-tell-hispanics-compare-and-debunk-them/

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a year ago

#60

Brew, still waiting for you to list his lies.

Fact stacking? Ok Pinocchio….

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