I came across a lawyer, Tom Renz, who actually read Trump's DOGE Executive Order and, expecting some illegal power grab, found it to be airtight. Turns out Trump and Musk didn't create anything. Obama did.

Obama created United States Digital Service (USDS) in 2014. It was meant as a bureaucratic patch job to fix the Obamacare website meltdown.

Fast forward to 2025. Trump rebrands it DOGE (United States DOGE Service). Keeps the acronym, keeps the funding, but gives it a whole new mission: Find the Receipts

Legally untouchable because it was already fully funded and operational. Trump invokes 5 USC 3161, which allows him to create temporary hiring authorities. DOGE teams get embedded inside every single federal agency. Each team consists of a lawyer, HR rep, a zoomer nerd, and an investigator. They report to DOGE, not the agency they're embedded in.

But wait, there's more! Trump invokes 44 USC Chapter 35, which governs federal IT and cybersecurity oversight. Since USDS was originally an IT oversight body, DOGE now has full access to all federal data systems. Yes, that’s right. All of them.

His executive order is written to block legal challenges. Includes language that overrides conflicting executive orders. Orders every agency to comply. Refusal means they violate presidential authority.

Congress can't defund it because it's not a new program, just a repurposed one. DOJ can't sue for overreach because Trump used existing laws exactly as written. Democrats trying to file legal challenges run into standing issues because DOGE operates within existing frameworks.

Obama literally built the perfect Administrative (read: Deep) State IT backdoor. Trump and Musk just hacked the system and took the admin controls. Musk now has legal oversight of every major agency's internal systems. The Administrative State can't stop it without rewriting multiple federal laws.

They legally outplayed the system and there’s nothing anyone can do about it. Obama created DOGE.

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:

Section 1. Purpose. This Executive Order establishes the Department of Government Efficiency to implement the President’s DOGE Agenda, by modernizing Federal technology and software to maximize governmental efficiency and productivity.

Sec. 2. Definitions. As used in this order:

(a) “Agency” has the meaning given to it in section 551 of title 5, United States Code, except that such term does not include the Executive Office of the President or any components thereof.

(b) “Agency Head” means the highest-ranking official of an agency, such as the Secretary, Administrator, Chairman, or Director, unless otherwise specified in this order.

Sec. 3. DOGE Structure.

(a) Reorganization and Renaming of the United States Digital Service. The United States Digital Service is hereby publicly renamed as the United States DOGE Service (USDS) and shall be established in the Executive Office of the President.

(b) Establishment of a Temporary Organization. There shall be a USDS Administrator established in the Executive Office of the President who shall report to the White House Chief of Staff. There is further established within USDS, in accordance with section 3161 of title 5, United States Code, a temporary organization known as “the U.S. DOGE Service Temporary

Organization”. The U.S. DOGE Service Temporary Organization shall be headed by the USDS Administrator and shall be dedicated to advancing the President’s 18-month DOGE agenda. The U.S. DOGE Service Temporary Organization shall terminate on July 4, 2026. The termination of the U.S. DOGE Service Temporary Organization shall not be interpreted to imply the termination, attenuation, or amendment of any other authority or provision of this order.

(c) DOGE Teams. In consultation with USDS, each Agency Head shall establish within their respective Agencies a DOGE Team of at least four employees, which may include Special Government Employees, hired or assigned within thirty days of the date of this Order. Agency Heads shall select the DOGE Team members in consultation with the USDS Administrator. Each DOGE Team will typically include one DOGE Team Lead, one engineer, one human resources specialist, and one attorney. Agency Heads shall ensure that DOGE Team Leads coordinate their work with USDS and advise their respective Agency Heads on implementing the President ‘s DOGE Agenda.

Sec. 4. Modernizing Federal Technology and Software to Maximize Efficiency and Productivity.

(a) The USDS Administrator shall commence a Software Modernization Initiative to improve the quality and efficiency of government-wide software, network infrastructure, and information technology (IT) systems. Among other things, the USDS Administrator shall work with Agency Heads to promote inter-operability between agency networks and systems, ensure data integrity, and facilitate responsible data collection and synchronization.

(b) Agency Heads shall take all necessary steps, in coordination with the USDS Administrator and to the maximum extent consistent with law, to ensure USDS has full and prompt access to all unclassified agency records, software systems, and IT systems. USDS shall adhere to rigorous data protection standards.

(c) This Executive Order displaces all prior executive orders and regulations, insofar as they are subject to direct presidential amendment, that might serve as a barrier to providing USDS access to agency records and systems as described above.

Sec. 5. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

THE WHITE HOUSE,

January 20, 2025.

Can't wait for this hurdle to be jumped over. This is all Lefty has up their sleeve. The have nothing else. American's gave Trump his mandate with House and Senate...to do THIS. Claw back all you can and terminate all of this bull****. ALL of it. Start enforcing sedition at the state levels to root out this "rebellion". It's being halted by judges that nobody voted for.

See them for what they are.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

To be fair, it isn't just the left, it the uniparty and it includes republicans.

Gene363 wrote:

For years I have occasionally mentioned the French had a "sharp" way to deal with government criminals. I am hopping we can do the country a similar service, albeit with proper criminal convictions, fines and jail time expeditiously.

Gene363 wrote:

To be fair, it isn't just the left, it the uniparty and it includes republicans.

Gene363 wrote:

I don't care what letter is beside their name... D or R.

If it's proven they've committed crimes... prosecute them. All of them. We have to set examples (finally) for the jackwagons that come next. Steal our tax dollars at your own peril.

MACS wrote:

I don't care what letter is beside their name... D or R.

If it's proven they've committed crimes... prosecute them. All of them. We have to set examples (finally) for the jackwagons that come next. Steal our tax dollars at your own peril.

MACS wrote:

Couldn't agree more... yea, i lean left... and have always said if anyone dem or repub is found to have committed a crime they should be prosecuted to the fullest and elected officials should be held to the highest of standards.

The problem with he current situation is that many of these EO have caused way more chaos then necessary. Shutting down entire agencies because you found something bad does not mean the entire org is bad or has a good mission/purpose. planning out the draw down or closure over even a small period of time (6 months, a year?) would eliminate a lot of the issues and allow other orgs to absorb some of those programs and missions that are important to the country as a whole without the chaos.

Return to in person work rather then telework is a easy example of the chaos... you know have employees being told to return to an office that has no office space... how do you report to work when you have no desk, infrastructure or in some cases even no building to return to? a phased or planned approach would have allowed agencies and departments time to plan and either move things around or find new office space for these people... in some cases you have people showing up to a building with hundreds of employees left to sit in a hall way with no connections or ability to actually work... at home at least they could work while things were set up for them to "return".

What happens if they shut down DOE like they are with USAID? one impact is they provide assistance to students with learning disabilities through special education programs, Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA), ensuring that students with disabilities receive a "free appropriate public education" (FAPE), which includes learning plans and necessary accommodations, impacting the ability to access and succeed in education... if DOE is closed in a knee jerk way like usaid then what happens to those kids? they go back to being shuttered behind closed doors or denied an education? In the 2022–2023 school year, about 7.5 million children received special education services under the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA). This was about 15% of all public school students. That is a HUGE impact... with no plan to resolve...

many of the things that President Mush and VP Trump are doing or trying to do i and many other "leftards" agree with... just not the HOW...

drglnc wrote:

If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal - Goldman

The campaign by President Donald Trump and his adviser Elon Musk to radically cut back the U.S. bureaucracy spread on Friday, firing more than 9,500 workers who handle everything from managing federal lands to caring for military veterans.

Workers at the Departments of Interior, Energy, Veterans Affairs, Agriculture, and Health and Human Services had their employment terminated in a drive that so far has largely — but not exclusively — targeted probationary employees in their first year on the job who have fewer employment protections.

Some agencies have been essentially shuttered, such as the independent watchdog the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, where cuts also hit workers on fixed-term contracts.

The tax-collecting Internal Revenue Service is preparing to fire thousands of workers next week, two people familiar with the matter said, a move that could squeeze resources ahead of Americans' April 15 deadline to file income taxes.

The firings, reported by Reuters and other major U.S. media outlets, are in addition to the roughly 75,000 workers who have taken a buyout that Trump and Musk have offered to get them to leave voluntarily, according to the White House. That equals about 3% of the 2.3 million-person civilian workforce.

MORE...

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/elon-musk-doge-donald-trump/2025/02/14/id/1199176/ 

Presidents Obama and Biden clearly love the work @DOGE is doing.

I don't care what letter is beside their name... D or R.

If it's proven they've committed crimes... prosecute them. All of them. We have to set examples (finally) for the jackwagons that come next. Steal our tax dollars at your own peril.

MACS wrote:

But - since many here believe that criminal convictions of political figures are politically motivated and engineered, and those convictions are invalid, how can it ever be “proven” that a political figure had commuted a crime?

Or say 34 felony crimes…

Brewha wrote: