How do you justify protesting when it causes traffic jams and ties up the police?

What about the people who are laying down in traffic to make their point? They need boom boxes blaring an MP3 of Cartman going Waaa Waaa Waaa. I'm a little protester because I hate Bush and the war.

What about the ambulance that gets caught in that traffic jam? Is that justifiable? They have their "right?" to lay down in traffic!!! and the poor guy taking a dirt nap because they "got creative" with their "self expression?" what about his widow? WHAT DO YOU TELL HER!!??

What about the useless deployment of police forces in an attempt to mop up this worthless waste of human flesh? We're at a heightened stated of alert for terrorism not to mention the murderers and rapists out there, and you have 50 cops trying to get people out of the street! Give me a BREAK! Those people should go to jail, they should not pass go, they should not collect 2 hundred dollars, and they should STAY THERE for a looooong time while they think about their stupidity.

While you still have any of the rights established by our Constitution,get your ass out and protest whatever.If you think people are dying because of street protests,you might be interested in a new invention,called the 'radio' which allows communications between separated parties,such as ambulance and police dispatchers.How do I justify protesting? I don't believe in a national policy of pre-emptive wars based on specious theories of a 'New World Order',don't think the U.S. has any business in forcing a colonial economic system on the rest of the world,cannot morally justify the 1.6 million civilian casualties the U.S. has caused in the past ten years in Iraq,and most importantly as an American I don't want to see a 15 year Viet Nam type war causing the deaths of another 58,000 servicemen.If you think it is unpatriotic to say your government is doing the wrong thing,rent the movie 'Judgement at Nuremburg' tonight.

ken9810

You better listen, & listen good!

You freaks are nothing but troublemakers. I live in the Bay area. I see the freaks like you, disrupting the daily business of people who dont even make the decisions about the war.

You and your **** buddies dont help your own cause. You instead, piss everybody off and create a dangerous situation in the streets.

How does breaking the law help your position? Answer that question you piece of &#$%&*$.

You think protesting is a recreational activity! Next week what is it, legalizing pot?

You immature bastards are a bunch of losers! Oh, by the way, what color is your hair? Green or purple or orange? Just curious.

You want more of me you punk? Magnafide(at)aol(dot)com.

I'M SICK & TIRED OF YOUR TYPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A PISSED OFF MAG!

PS: This post will probably be pulled tomorrow, just a guess.

Mag,

Let's put it this way....Let them lie down in front of our vehicle and see just how hard it is "not" to press the brakes!!!!

Mrs. Hog

Radios work indeed. Are you saying there is "zero possibility" that an emergency vehicle might be delayed by these types of protests? How do you justify your actions to the loved ones of the victim YOU created with your demonstration?

What about the police resources called off from chasing down bad guys? Suppose a rapist gets away or doesn't get caught as a result of your "free speech"? How do you justify your protest to his next victim? Your victim...? An impossible scenario? If it help you sleep at night, ok, ok...

I would really like to hear ken9810's Arguments here!!! I hope they can just pull your post Mag and let this one run it's course... Ken you need to type in my user name and then read some of the related posts.. on them I have Copied and Pasted web sites to the facts of the Past 12 yrs of this situation in Iraq right now...So for whatever beliefes..

Ken:

"How do I justify protesting? I don't believe in a national policy of pre-emptive wars based on specious theories of a 'New World Order'" who's theories of a new world Order Ken? and 12 yrs is Pre Emptive? the Facts on why we are in there today to Free the Iraqi People is Facts on the Table... they are popping up Daily as to why we are there...And Again you like many including my other sister are Blind to the Fact this needed to be taken care of... myself feels we're 12 yrs late but Glad finally its getting done!!!!

Ken:

",don't think the U.S. has any business in forcing a colonial economic system on the rest of the world,cannot morally justify the 1.6 million civilian casualties the U.S. has caused in the past ten years in Iraq,"

I want to see your Facts Ken, Where the U.S. has caused these Casualties in the past 10 yrs? and for your Information it has been past 12 yrs since the end of Gulf War 1

Ken:

"and most importantly as an American I don't want to see a 15 year Viet Nam type war causing the deaths of another 58,000 servicemen." No but it was ok for us to remain in Iraq after the end of the Gulf War and Protect the North and South Iraq from Saddam's Mad Ways? Vietnam was a Political Mistake, and to revert your thoughts to that is what Happening today in this Day's War is totally Popostorious (sp)

Ken:

"If you think it is unpatriotic to say your government is doing the wrong thing,rent the movie 'Judgement at Nuremburg' tonight."

I don't view my Country based on a Movie, especially one relating the United States to what happened in Germany in WW2

So Please Ken show me some facts to back up your Protests

I'll be waiting

Thanks

Hog

I quote,

"While you still have any of the rights established by our Constitution,get your ass out and protest whatever."

Protest whatever? I'm still pissed at this assanine post.

Where are you, you &%$&*#$%&!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mag

Geeze! I know that I'm a "gun totin, pickup truck driving, testosterone crazed war monger with an extra chromosome", but Mag! hehehehe breath!

Robby

I have to live near this bullcrap. You are lucky. Have you been to the bay area? These guys are everywhere!

I cant stand it anymore. These guys should be in jail, but the police run em in and out on bail, in a couple of hours

They have NO RESPECT for anyone else, so I have NO RESPECT for them!

Mag

Ken, when you say you should "protest whatever" you are really showing your total lack of intelligence, and the general problem with these war protests to begin with.

The many "protests" that are true "Peace Rallys" are what this country is all about. Speaking one's mind and opinion in a thought provoking and law abiding manner.

The "War Protests" on the other hand reek of fools like you who see it as a forum to cry about anything and everything. We're sorry that Uncle Sam hasn't sent you your latest welfare check so you could buy a clue, but don't waste our time bitching about it.

Other than that, have a good day...

Magnafide

apparently you disagree with ken9810.

maybe he doesn't want to listen and listen good. back off him and maybe he will hear you better.

maybe he lives in connecticut and has a wife and 3 kids. you are calling him a freak. maybe he has no deformities and looks like everyone else. and i believe he has a military crew cut. his hair is dark brown.

you are one of the few that is pissed beyond reason. disagree, disagree, disagree, but please don't blow your blood pressure.

and you are not clint eastwood.

Robby

rapists escaping, victims being created.

what a great imagination you have

Rick,

Whether or not such tragedies occur, these protestors should be made aware of the potential consequences.

A healthy dose of personal responsiblity has never caused anyone harm, and usually is quite an elixir.

usahog

first he doesn't have to prove his understanding about history and what this nation has done. he just stated them, as he sees them

they are true for the most part.

if you are not up to speed about american history, perhaps you should do some reading and catch up.

i do think your post was polite and you asked the questions you wanted answered.

tailgater

your posts might get a little more respect if you explained why you disagree.

when you reach for "your welfare check" it shows you collectivise and can't see a tree because you only see a forest.

a sarcastic "have a nice day" is childish.

"they are true for the most part.

if you are not up to speed about american history, perhaps you should do some reading and catch up."

Ok Rick, your going to have to post and show me where the "Most Part" anything Ken or You Believe are True... that I said wasn't True???

as far as History and reading up on it... I would love to have a sit down with you and the two of us go over History of this Nation... at the same time we could have someone record it and then write a book about the view points from the left and the right on the History... Granted you have a few years on me... But all my life I've been a History Buff... and I think I could Fair very well with the Left on any Issue's in Our Nations History... especially War History's of this Great Nation!!!!

Here's one for you and it's fairly Easy... What was the Bloodiest Day in American History in Battle??

Now Back Off and allow Ken to Answer his Own Questions he Opened up with... and I would just like him to answer these that he posted... thats what the forum is for... 90% of the time you Dodge from answering any Questions anyhows Rick!!!!!

Hog

civil war i believe appomattox where the south surenderd. i'm not sure about the town. might have been gettysburg. i didn't want to look it up, i'll go by memory. hard to remember where i was that day.

charlie arquette, i believe that name is correct has or had a museum dealing with the civil war. i remember a battle scene with all soldiers hand carved and painted by charlie. he used to be on the original hollywood squares.

"The Battle was Antietam" 6000 Americans lost their Lives that Day... Dubbed the Bloodiest Single Day in War History... Sept..13th 1862

Maybe since Ken wants to go back to the Vietnam War and Protest it with todays War... he would even allow himself to go back to that day in Time and Protest because America had lost so many There Also?

Honestly he Needs to Get a Life!!!!!

and Rick I have been to all those Battle Fields you mention above... and the Wilderness along with Gettysburg made my hair stand on end!!! they will take you back to Reality!!!

Hog

Rick, whats your opinion on this,"get your ass out and protest whatever."

Protest whatever? Why isnt that childish? And why is the US responcible for the 1.6 million deaths he speaks of. Since he isnt around maybe you can answer for him.

I agree, I went overboard. But I'm not backing off on the point that this guys statement is crazy.

This guy is the type of protester that makes your party look bad. I guarantee you that none of the protesters that do these illegal activities are Republicans or Conservatives. And thats even if they happen to agree with you on the war.

Why is it that Liberals or Democrats disobey the law so easily, without embarassment? I dont get that. You rarely see this from the right.

Well I've had a beer and calmed down a bit. I'm sorry I got so pissed. But, I still want answers.

Mag

Ken,

Protest "whatever" you like, it's your right. But there is no constitutional right to disrupt traffic. That denys the rights of others. It's illegal, immoral, it's a public nusance and a it's public safety hazard. God forbid you should ever have an emergency and the police or fire fighters or ambulence are delayed because somebody thinks they have the right to stop traffic.