a disturbing image robby, quite disturbing...

CWil, as RDC stated... Clinton damn near wiped out the Military here... and the cutbacks had allot of Equipment rendered usless... it has taken Millions to get it back up to speed... and to top it all off the Humiliation (sp) of the don't ask don't tell Policy he inacted...

Ok Iraq was easy and the Boyscouts could have done it?

What are you going to say about North Korea??? I'll tell you what some of the Korean Vets Said about them just last weekend...have you been catching any of that news? they pulled out of the Treaty Talks and stated they are going to build up their military more because their going to need it for the United States... that means their Intentions are to get their Nukes Developed and press on with their Saddam Rolls... see their is another Saddam in another part of the World... and GWB and his Administration has been dealing with them as well as the War in Iraq... and Your Beloved **** Clinton couldn't deal with anything that required Force or Prevention just Open ended Promisses... as he Raped this Country!!!!!

he will go down as the Worst President to Date!!!!!

there is new developments now with the FBI Ordeal in Cali... and it has Clintons Name all over it!!!!! keep an eye on the News, he may not be getting away with this one... Ol Willy's Teflon may be wearing off....

and to Compare Myself or any other Military Member as a Boy Scout... Spifffff Here's the International "Boy Scout" Hand Salute to You!!!!!!

Hog

Hog - You obviously didn't read my post, no boyscouts couldn't do it, hence the 😉 face that I had after it, RDC had mentioned it before... And I have much greater respect for you and our military than you seem to think, so just cool your jets.

Chris, if you go to a grocery store and the checkout clerk calls you an ass and insults you chances are you aren't going to go back. That is what is happening here. Many people were insulted at the coments made by the chicks. So they aren't going to support them. I don't see any problem.

Me either, but how long would you dwell on the actions of that clerk? Seems like a waste of time to keep complaining about it, just don't buy their stuff...

Hog - Regarding N. Korea I'm scared as hell, I know we have to do something, and I know it will be much messier than Iraq. I just hope we don't have to loose a lot of our incredible soldiers!! How do you see this playing out? I'm interested to see your point of view!

yeah, but in this case, it's not the clerk, the clerk may not have worked there last week, and may not be there next week, we're talking more about the CEO, COO, and CFO...

cwilhelmi, where do you work? I want to boycott them! 🙂 hehehe

I already boycott them...

Well you know how the saying goes Chris, A satisfied customer will tell 1 person a dissatsfied customer will tell 10.

Truth be told had it not been brought up on this board I wouldn't have known about it. Then again I've never nor will never buy a dixie chick anything.

""""stated they are going to build up their military more because their going to need it for the United States... that means their Intentions are to get their Nukes Developed and press on with their Saddam Rolls... see their is another Saddam in another part of the World.."""

Wouldn't you if you were threatened by the worlds most powerful military?

If I were Iran, I would be sinking BIG money in to some silkworm missles capable of sinking an aircraft carrier... Granted they have falanx(sp) and are very well protected by the battle group, aegiss(sp) crusiers, subs, etc... I'm talking about 50, or 100, or 300 missles all launched at the carrier, simultaneously... At some point, seems you could overwhelmie their defences. And the American public wouldn't take kindly to a multi-billion dollar war ship going to the bottom with 5000 hands on-board. Don't get me wrong, I'm in no way supporting this, wishing it, or otherwise, I'm just saying, "if I were running Iran, I'd be buying up a pant load of these missles now."

No Robby, if you were Iran you wouldld be to busy with your herim to do much of anything.

""""He cut spending which made many voters happy, but at the expence of our military. Those poor boys were forced to harvest parts from one airplane to keep another one flying. """"

Why do you single out Clinton? He was only continuing with the trend started by Reagan and maintained by Bush sr.

http://wildcat.arizona.edu//papers/89/111/08_1_m.html 

http://www.nationalpriorities.org/issues/military/NationalDefenseBoth.gif 

Didn't Regan and Bush have Democrat congresses to work with? I can't remember, but I'm pretty sure. Can the President simply ram through whatever they want on the budget? Or does the congress have to approve it. Not too up on this political stuff so you'll have to help me out here. Enquiring minds want to know if you're honest or if you have an agenda...

Didn't Regan and Bush have Democrat congresses to work with? I can't remember, but I'm pretty sure.

Yes

Can the President simply ram through whatever they want on the budget?

No, So why aren't you focusing your venom on Congress?

Or does the congress have to approve it.

A bit of an oversimplistic view of the process but basically Yes.

Not too up on this political stuff so you'll have to help me out here.

Don't sell yourself short Robby. ;-}

Enquiring minds want to know if you're honest or if you have an agenda...

Honest as the day is long. You?

Did you read the article? Clinton basically continued with the same cuts as Reagan and Bush. Military spending was being cut on their watch! Funny, how I don't hear you saying anything dispariging about them. A little disingenious dontcha think?

Robby,

It's Friday night, my workday is through and I'm on my way to my favorite watering hole for brews and cigars. I'm on vacation next week so I'm probably not going to be checking in all that often (if at all.) Just making sure you know, I havn't turned tail and run. (remember this one?)

http://www.cigarbid.com/auction/forum/forum.cfm?action=list&forumID=9&messageDisplay=0000000009563 

All of you have a great week. Smoke lots of cigars. (I know I will!)

Humm, Spy-nee, closer anal-a-sis of your graph shows:

1. Spending was way down under Carter (moral? Dems decimate the military)

2. It increased dramatically under Regan? I see this, do you?

3. I see that spending stays relatively constant under Bush 41 and then dips toward the end of his presidency. As I recall, we had a budget crunch at the time? The democrat congress was pushing for tax increases also as I recall. Why would they be pushing to increase taxes?

4. Then during the Clinton years (early) when we had a "republican congress" and the revenues were on the up swing due to the Internet boom and the stock market (irational exuberance), I see the military spending going down? even though revenues were increasing?????????? HOW CAN THIS BE??? Surely the democrats (like yourself) care about national defense? DON'T THEY?? DON'T YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

5. Then finally when a republican is elected, I see the graph tending upward? Are you trying to make a point with this information? OR REINFORCE MINE!

COME BACK!! COWARD!!!!!!!!

Based on the graph, spending clearly starts to decline in 1986(Reagan) and continues to decline until 1998/99(Clinton). Are you drunk Robby, or are you looking at something else??