I had the pleasure of smoking a Ashton VSG last night, and all I can say is WOW. I hadn't had a cigar in a while, so it pretty much kicked my @$$. Very good smoke, very peppery, and would recommend for any newbie out there. Just make sure you have a good size meal down before you smoke one.

nwb

Any cigar with a vaginal reference is fine in my book... Was it Sheena Easton that sang, "won't you come inside the sugar walls of my humidor?"

Man ... really 'drawing straws' here, eh Robby? You must be running out of material ... 😉

You guys crack me up!

A most excellent smoke that VSG. A prime example of what a sungrown should be. If you can find it, try the Fuente 858 Flor Fina sungrown. I have the 858 just a notch or three above the VSG. But to someone that craves chocolate M&Ms, that's kinda like saying "I prefer peanut to plain. Smoke either if you can get them.

jerry - can you drop me a line of any sites you know of that sell 858 SGs?? Thanks,C

cpwilhelmi at hotmail dot com

email sent but you won't like the prices

that's what I was afraid of!! I've seen them on a couple of sites at disgusting prices...

Thanks Jerry!!

I don't know what those prices are ... but I can guess!

I've seen box after box sell at that other auction site, you know ((( link edited by Slimboli ))) for $250+ a box ...

... and since they is not going to be a release this year (and maybe never again), it's only going to get worse.

cwilhelmi --- what do you want to bet, that even if you were willing to pay those prices ... they would tell you that they are out of stock!

actually 275, and in stock

their OPUS are nearly 3 times retail as well...

ditto Slim. Actually, there are several sites that still list them and actually let you go through the motions of putting them in the shopping cart and checking out! Only to send you an email saying they are out of stock and if you want, they can add you to their mile long waiting list...

I am crossing my eyes, fingers, toes, and nose hairs hoping Fuente will have a 2003 release...

They won't ... it's a done deal.

I got it straight form Carlito himself, after I emailed him from the Cigar Family website.

He also posted it several times in the Clubhouse Room that there would not be a release in 2003 ...

cwilhelmi --- that's insane ... but someone will grab them up.

Sad but true... It's sad when you can't even pay retail!! Just about any other brand and I'd complain about having to pay retail!!

I guess you have to look at 'rare' cigars like you would fine old vintage wines ... :^(

... the less there is and the harder it is to find, the more you have to pay out the nose for it.

Enjoy your 858 Cwil. I'm not going to save my last two! I'm smoking them babies come my Summer fly fishing trip!!

Heavy sigh...

I'm going to save "my last box" 🙂 Woo WHO!!

It's a little late to find the 858s at reasonable prices. I picked up a box a few months ago for $100 in the Midwest.

Most places had them for that price around Xmas. No mas.

I still have a sealed box and 14 singles left, out of three boxes that I was able to score this year. I did have 15 singles left, but after reading this post all day ... I just had to have one.

Man ... I tell you ... for me, there isn't a better cigar made. It just does it for me, like no other cigar has been able to do ...

One was from Kentucky, the other two out of Florida (thanks to two CB brothers and two CF brothers, that kept up a diligent and relentless hunt for me) ... and I got them all for around $130 to $135 a box.

I feel that I was blessed this year ... in spite of the bad fortune I had with my job loss!