I won one of these here on Cbid for $16 in December. It was a gift to my brother. I get him a "big" cigar for his July 4 party (6 mo. 'dor time is always good). Last year I gave him a Mexican Valdez (13x50), that one took him a good 2 hours to get it down to robusto size. He said the smoke wasn't too bad, but not great. This year the "Chief" (18x60), should take him all day....lol. And because it's a Puros Indios, it should be a lot tastier.