DrafterX
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:55:22 AM
THIS SENIOR CITIZEN NAILED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alan Simpson, Senator from Wyoming, Co-Chair of Obama's deficit

commission, calls senior citizens the Greediest Generation as he

compared "Social Security" to a Milk Cow with 310 million teats.

August, 2010.

Here's a response in a letter from a unknown fellow in Montana... I

think he is a little ticked off! He also tells it like it is!

"Hey Alan, let's get a few things straight...

1. As a career politician, you have been on the public dole for FIFTY

YEARS.

2. I have been paying Social Security taxes for 48 YEARS (since I was 15

years old. I am now 63).

3. My Social Security payments, and those of millions of other

Americans, were safely tucked away in an interest bearing account for

decades until you political pukes decided to raid the account and give

OUR money to a bunch of zero ambition losers in return for votes, thus

bankrupting the system and turning Social Security into a Ponzi scheme

that would have made Bernie Madoff proud.

4. Recently, just like Lucy & Charlie Brown, you and your ilk pulled the

proverbial football away from millions of American seniors nearing

retirement and moved the goalposts for full retirement from age 65 to

age 67. NOW, you and your shill commission is proposing to move the

goalposts YET AGAIN.

5. I, and millions of other Americans, have been paying into Medicare

from Day One, and now you morons propose to change the rules of the

game. Why? Because you idiots mismanaged other parts of the economy

to such an extent that you need to steal money from Medicare to pay the

bills.

6. I, and millions of other Americans, have been paying income taxes our

entire lives, and now you propose to increase our taxes yet again. Why?

Because you incompetent bastards spent our money so profligately that

you just kept on spending even after you ran out of money. Now, you come

to the American taxpayers and say you need more to pay off YOUR debt.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

To add insult to injury, you label us "greedy" for calling "bullsh!t" on

your incompetence. Well, Captain Bullsh!t, I have a few questions for

YOU.

1. How much money have you earned from the American taxpayers during

your pathetic 50-year political career?

2. At what age did you retire from your pathetic political career, and

how much are you receiving in annual retirement benefits from the

American taxpayers?

3. How much do you pay for YOUR government provided health insurance?

4. What cuts in YOUR retirement and healthcare benefits are you

proposing in your disgusting deficit reduction proposal, or, as usual,

have you exempted yourself and your political cronies?

It is you, Captain Bullsh!t, and your political co-conspirators who are

"greedy"...It is you and they who have bankrupted America and stolen the

American dream from millions of loyal, patriotic taxpayers. And for

what? Votes. That's right, sir. You and yours have bankrupted America

for the sole purpose of advancing your pathetic political careers. You

know it, we know it, and you know that we know it.

And you can take that to the bank, you miserable son of a bitch."

😟

Papachristou
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:14:28 AM
i like it! too bad nothing will come of it.
TMCTLT
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:14:49 AM
I stand as I type this and salute this man for having the BALLS to tell it like it is........

=d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d>

Never before has some one absolutely NAILED the works of the Political system like this gentleman

To you sir 🍺

TMCTLT
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:17:18 AM
[quote=Papachristou]i like it! too bad nothing will come of it.[/quote]

True, this is the kind of stuff that Needs to be on the evening news for days as the public would never tire of hearing it!!!!!!! Not to worry, I won't hold my thumb in my Azzzz for that as it would surely take growth......

Papachristou
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:21:29 AM
yes, we are more concerned with voting for american idol than our future as a nation.
HockeyDad
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:32:14 AM
This just in.......Alan Simpson's response letter:

"SUCK IT!"

Regards,

Senator Alan Simpson

DrafterX
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:40:45 AM
😟
topper7788
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:41:54 AM
I have no idea if gnat letter is legit, but it is absolutely perfect..... I couldn't agree more or have explained it any better.....
TMCTLT
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:43:30 AM
[quote=HockeyDad]This just in.......Alan Simpson's response letter:

"SUCK IT!"

Regards,

Senator Alan Simpson[/quote]

I hope the old prick has a cardiac arrest.........regards, taxpaying citizen

DrMaddVibe
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:00:06 AM
[quote=TMCTLT]I hope the old prick has a cardiac arrest.........regards, taxpaying citizen[/quote]

That would show him!:-"

gringococolo
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:19:33 AM
Prior to 1984, neither federal civil service workers nor Members of Congress

paid taxes to Social Security, nor were they eligible for Social Security benefits.

Members of Congress and other federal employees were instead covered by a

separate pension plan called the Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS). The 1983

amendments to the Social Security Act (P.L. 98-21) required federal employees first

hired after 1983 to participate in Social Security. These amendments also required

all Members of Congress to participate in Social Security as of January 1, 1984,

regardless of when they first entered Congress. Because the CSRS was not designed

to coordinate with Social Security, Congress directed the development of a new

retirement plan for federal workers. The result was the Federal Employees’

Retirement System Act of 1986 (P.L. 99-335).

Members of Congress first elected in 1984 or later are covered automatically

under the Federal Employees’ Retirement System (FERS), unless they decline this

coverage. Those who already were in Congress when Social Security coverage went

into effect could either remain in CSRS or change their coverage to FERS.

As of October 1, 2006, 413 retired Members of Congress were receiving federal

pensions based fully or in part on their congressional service. Of this number, 290

had retired under CSRS and were receiving an average annual pension of $60,972.

A total of 123 Members had retired with service under both CSRS and FERS or with

service under FERS only. Their average annual pension was $35,952 in 2006.

http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RL30631.pdf 

January 2011 and January 2012 Member Pay

Adjustments Denied

As stated above, projected Member pay adjustments are calculated based on changes in the

Employment Cost Index (ECI). The projected 2011 adjustment of 0.9% was known when the

Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) released data for the ECI change during the 12-month period

from December 2008 to December 2009 on January 29, 2010.4 This adjustment would have

equaled a $1,600 increase, resulting in a salary of $175,600.

The 2011 pay adjustment was prohibited by the enactment of H.R. 5146 (P.L. 111-165) on May

14, 2010. H.R. 5146 was introduced in the House on April 27 and was agreed to the same day

(Roll no. 226). It was agreed to in the Senate the following day by unanimous consent. Other

legislation was also introduced to prevent the scheduled 2011 pay adjustment.5

Additionally, P.L. 111-322, which was enacted on December 22, 2010, prevents any adjustment in

GS base pay before December 31, 2012. Since the percent adjustment in Member pay may not

exceed the percent adjustment in the base pay of GS employees, Member pay is also frozen

during this period. If not limited by GS pay, Members could have received a salary adjustment of

1.3% in January 2012 under the ECI formula.6

Pay for Members of Congress in 2011 will remain at the 2009 and 2010 level of $174,000.

http://www.senate.gov/CRSReports/crs-publish.cfm?pid= '*2%404P%5C%5B%3A%22%40%20%20%0A

gringococolo
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:23:43 AM
Members of Congress have good health insurance by any standard, but it’s not free and not reserved only for them – and it’s not government insurance. House and Senate members are allowed to purchase private health insurance offered through the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program, which covers more than 8 million other federal employees, retirees and their families.

It’s not a "single-payer" system where the government acts as the one and only health insurance company. As President Bush’s chief of personnel Kay Coles James said in 2003, while lecturing at the conservative Heritage Foundation, "the FEHB program is not centralized, government-run health care." It has drawn praise both from conservatives and liberals, including President Obama, who held it up as a model for his own health care proposals.

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/health-care-for-members-of-congress/ 

gringococolo
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:30:48 AM
2011 Benefits & Rates

Providing comprehensive coverage at a rate that is affordable is important to us. We also know members want more from their health insurance, such as the added value your Blue Cross and Blue Shield Service Benefit Plan coverage brings to you and your family with:

A Preferred network of almost one million providers.

A free nurse triage line.

Free online tools that let you take charge of your health.

You Can Get More Information

The 2011 Blue Cross and Blue Shield Service Benefit Plan brochure (RI 71-005) provides the contractual description of your benefits. The complete list of benefit changes for 2011 can be found Section 2 of the brochure, which will be available on this site before the start of Open Season. It is especially important to read the information about how benefits are provided differently for Preferred and Non-preferred providers.

Important Prescription Drug Benefit Changes for 2011

Under both Options, we now describe prescription drug benefits by using four Tiers of payment. Please review Section 5(f) of the 2011 Service Benefit Plan brochure for details about the new Tier benefit levels.

There are also some 2011 benefit changes that you need to know. Under the Standard Option Mail Service Pharmacy Program, the $10 copayment for generic drugs has not changed. However, the copayment for the first 30 fills or refills for Preferred brand-name drugs has increased by $5 to $70 for 2011. Last year, we introduced a program that waives the coinsurance amount under the Retail Pharmacy Program for the first four prescription fills or refills purchased at a Preferred retail pharmacy when you switch from certain brand-name drugs to certain generic drugs. In 2011, we are expanding this program to drugs purchased through the Mail Service Pharmacy. A list of eligible drugs is in the 2011 brochure.

Basic Option prescription drug benefits for Preferred brand-name and Non-preferred brand-name prescription drugs have changed for 2011. You pay a $40 copayment in 2011 for Preferred brand-name drugs and you pay 50 percent of the Plan Allowance, with a $50 minimum, for Non-preferred brand-name drugs in 2011.

Important Health and Wellness Changes for 2011

The Standard Option calendar year deductible increases from $300 to $350 for self only and from $600 to $700 for family contracts.

Standard Option benefits for facility charges related to outpatient surgery are now subject to the calendar year deductible.

Under Standard Option, the per admission copayment is increased from $200 to $250 for Preferred hospitals.

Standard Option benefits for inpatient care in a Member hospital are changed to add a 35 percent coinsurance amount in addition to the $350 per admission copayment.

The Basic Option copayment for emergency room care is increasing from $75 to $125.

The Basic Option copayment for urgent care increases from $30 to $50.

The Basic Option copayment for professional charges for surgery increases from $100 to $150.

The copayment under Basic Option for covered routine dental services is increased from $20 to $25.

Under both options, adult children up to the age of 26 are now eligible family members under the FEHBP.

2011 Standard Option, 2011 Basic Option

Non-Postal Premium

Biweekly

Self Only (104): $86.39 Family (105): $199.20, Self Only (111): $52.32 Family (112): $122.53

Non-Postal Premium

Monthly

Self Only (104): $187.18 Family (105): $431.60, Self Only (111):$113.37 Family (112): $265.49

Postal Premium

Biweekly

Self Only (104): $63.81 Family (105): $148.70, Self Only (111): $32.44 Family (112): $75.97

Non-Postal rates apply to most non-Postal employees. If you are in a special enrollment category, refer to the Guide to Federal Benefits for that category or contact the agency that maintains your health benefits enrollment. Career non-law enforcement employees may also refer to the Guide to Federal Benefits for United States Postal Service Employees, RI 70-2, to determine their rates.

http://www.fepblue.org/news/benefitsandservices/2011-benefits-rates.jsp 

gringococolo
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:32:51 AM
I call BS to this. Ravings of people that obviously just listen to blather of millionaire talking heads.

Look. Federal employees and members of congress have a good plan. Just get facts not hot air.

teedubbya
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:43:53 AM
I'm not terribly sure the OP isn't fake.... too lazy to snopes it.

But it is refreshing to see we are all for big government again. SOCIALIALIST Security cards should be printed on red parchment before being lamenated.

gringococolo
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:45:43 AM
Also this genius's FULL retirement age is 66, if he is 63 years old. That means he was born in 1948 right?

Social Security Amendments of 1983-Signed on April 20, 1983. By the most beloved President on this board. Reagan. And a split Senate and House majority.

http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v46n7/v46n7p3.pdf 

HockeyDad
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:03:13 PM
[quote=teedubbya]

But it is refreshing to see we are all for big government again. [/quote]

How did you make that leap? It is more likely that most would be happy to see social security eliminated and all money paid in refunded at 0% interest. (The government keeps the interest because it was used on social security disability payments already)

From Generation X onward, most have already been conditioned to believe that social security would be eliminated before they retire and if they get anything back for their SS taxes, they should be happy. The expectations have been deliberately set very low. The Baby Boomers expect social security to be a god-given right.

The funny thing is that people that believe social security will always be there also believe they will get back what they paid in over time. It was never set up to do that.

teedubbya
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:11:49 PM
[quote=HockeyDad]How did you make that leap? It is more likely that most would be happy to see social security eliminated and all money paid in refunded at 0% interest. (The government keeps the interest because it was used on social security disability payments already)

From Generation X onward, most have already been conditioned to believe that social security would be eliminated before they retire and if they get anything back for their SS taxes, they should be happy. The expectations have been deliberately set very low. The Baby Boomers expect social security to be a god-given right.

The funny thing is that people that believe social security will always be there also believe they will get back what they paid in over time. It was never set up to do that.[/quote]

HD I was poking it with a stick and being sarcastic. The angry womans husband that wrote the letter doesn't want anyone monkeying with his socialist security. Especially that government sucking leach Simpson. The comments seemd to support him.

But you hit it on the head. Folks think they are going to get back all the money that they put in. It doesn't work that way. Some are going to get more, some less and unfortunately some not at all. It is redistribution of income. On a side note I think Ponsi should be renamed Madoff.

"The Baby Boomers expect social security to be a god-given right." is dead on which may support Simpsons original comment but it appeared to me no one agreed with Simpson (including me). Some of the very folks that do not want SS or medicare touched are hte ones screaming for small government (with them grandfathered in collecting all their loot). I think they are for small government for future generations as long as the future generations pay their (the boomers) way the remeainder of the way.

gringococolo
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:30:44 PM
Once again. Damn baby boomers screw it up for the rest of us.
Stinkdyr
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:43:30 PM
And this folks, is why SS must be privatized.

Keep your money....YOUR MONEY!!

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