dlandri21
Sunday, August 7, 2011 10:03:47 PM
Ok last post before I hit the sack. Has anyone out there tried the Brocatus churchill or robusto? I've only had it in the torpedo and liked it. Unfortunately, the draw was a real bitch. Are those any better? Has anyone tried aging them out for a while and do they get better with time. I like a good bargain🇨🇮
engletl
Sunday, August 7, 2011 10:06:37 PM
all I can say is smoke what you like and like what you smoke
gimbel
Sunday, August 7, 2011 10:07:02 PM
You may want to look into doing a trade, swap PM's, with rah. Don't pay too much attention to all the hate he has received here, we all like to dog on the new guy after all. He seems to be a bargain smoker, and has a pretty vast knowledge of such smokes.
jackconrad
Sunday, August 7, 2011 10:09:48 PM
They lack consstency and are usally a crap shoot but for the price ok if you wanna play around a little
murray80
Sunday, August 7, 2011 10:18:33 PM
Jack, why do you gotta drop an f you on the new guy?
dlandri21
Sunday, August 7, 2011 10:46:20 PM
I like high end sticks like everyone else, but im also a man of the people 🙂 plus I heard we're in a recession
jackconrad
Sunday, August 7, 2011 11:55:15 PM
huh/
ZRX1200
Monday, August 8, 2011 12:04:58 AM
There is only one true man of the people here on this forum.

JACK CONRAD IN 2012!!

dlandri21
Monday, August 8, 2011 5:29:17 PM
Ahhh man...surely someone out there has tried to age these cheapos. Nothing like finding a diamond in the rough, ya know?
gimbel
Monday, August 8, 2011 6:17:08 PM
Smoke an Azteca.
JavaLang
Monday, August 8, 2011 8:42:51 PM

Ahhh man...surely someone out there has tried to age these cheapos. Nothing like finding a diamond in the rough, ya know?

dlandri21 wrote:

Pretty sure aging these would result in no flavor at all.

rah0785
Monday, August 8, 2011 9:39:40 PM
The 7.5x50 Churchill was a lousy smoke. While the cigar offers no bitterness or bad after taste the flavor level is LOW. Worse then the flavor is the construction of the cigar. Of the TEN I got in a Quickbuy, an extra 5 in error, lucky me, they were either HARD AS A ROCK and had rotten draw or the tissue thin wrapper just tore, crumbled, and some cigars even cracked open. Of the recent "Dog Rocket PLUS" candidates I smoked, EL Mejor Emerald, 7x50 Churchill, a $ $38 to 40 Quickbuy is actually very good and pushes actual premium cigars.

Other are,

DON RAFAEL 7.5x50 Churchill-Just below average Connecticut., maybe a GENERIC 5 Vegas GOLD

Don RAFAEL Maduro Robusto was OK as well.

CU-AVANA Connecticut-Same as above.

La Vieja Connecticut and Corojo-Both are decent smokes.

ASTRAL Connecticut just falls short off average.

El Mejor Espresso and Gurkha Cuban Legacy are both decent and can be gotten for under $2 per stick here and put Brocatus to shame.

Don Elias Churchill-Same as Brocatus. Lousy cigar.

Gurkha Sherpa Cafe-also a GOOD/average cigar that does get better with age.

Arganese Connecticut & Maduro-Both just fall short of a good/ average cigar.

Vic Sinclair Serie '55' Oscuro- Actually reashes the level of a good/average cigar with a crisp, dark maduro flavor.

All except Don Elias are miles better them Brocatus is every way.

Others that LOOK good and I plan to try are are Bohemian Bamboo Big Sur, 6x60. The Churchill size was actually decent and with some age could become a average/ good cigar. La Caya Connecticut by word or mouth is OK.

Everyone of these can be won,most even bought at $2 or less and most are smokeable and can fill in between your premium cigars.

nickatnite
Monday, August 8, 2011 9:51:06 PM

The 7.5x50 Churchill was a lousy smoke. While the cigar offers no bitterness or bad after taste the flavor level is LOW. Worse then the flavor is the construction of the cigar. Of the TEN I got in a Quickbuy, an extra 5 in error, lucky me, they were either HARD AS A ROCK and had rotten draw or the tissue thin wrapper just tore, crumbled, and some cigars even cracked open. Of the recent "Dog Rocket PLUS" candidates I smoked, EL Mejor Emerald, 7x50 Churchill, a $ $38 to 40 Quickbuy is actually very good and pushes actual premium cigars.

Other are,

DON RAFAEL 7.5x50 Churchill-Just below average Connecticut., maybe a GENERIC 5 Vegas GOLD

Don RAFAEL Maduro Robusto was OK as well.

CU-AVANA Connecticut-Same as above.

La Vieja Connecticut and Corojo-Both are decent smokes.

ASTRAL Connecticut just falls short off average.

El Mejor Espresso and Gurkha Cuban Legacy are both decent and can be gotten for under $2 per stick here and put Brocatus to shame.

Don Elias Churchill-Same as Brocatus. Lousy cigar.

Gurkha Sherpa Cafe-also a GOOD/average cigar that does get better with age.

Arganese Connecticut & Maduro-Both just fall short of a good/ average cigar.

Vic Sinclair Serie '55' Oscuro- Actually reashes the level of a good/average cigar with a crisp, dark maduro flavor.

All except Don Elias are miles better them Brocatus is every way.

Others that LOOK good and I plan to try are are Bohemian Bamboo Big Sur, 6x60. The Churchill size was actually decent and with some age could become a average/ good cigar. La Caya Connecticut by word or mouth is OK.

Everyone of these can be won,most even bought at $2 or less and most are smokeable and can fill in between your premium cigars.

rah0785 wrote:

I concur on the EME and the Cuban Legacy, especially the EME. They have been discussed here before a few times. 2 of my everyday/yard gar sticks. 2 others I like to add to the list are, Felipe-Centenario and Quintero.

rah0785
Tuesday, August 9, 2011 11:07:54 AM

I concur on the EME and the Cuban Legacy, especially the EME. They have been discussed here before a few times. 2 of my everyday/yard gar sticks. 2 others I like to add to the list are, Felipe-Centenario and Quintero.

nickatnite wrote:

Ya, The Centenario Liga B 6x55 auctioned here at times here is not a bad smoke, but a strange one. I read were they got their '90+' rating, which was on the discontinued line about 8 years ago. This NEW blend isn't even close to a '91' rated cigar. But I found myself going to it every time I was starting a smoking session and burned through my 5 pack in 2 days.

Not a whole lot of flavor, but the cigar HAS SOME STRANGE OFFERING POWERS that draw you to it.

ZRX1200
Tuesday, August 9, 2011 11:30:47 AM
Rah® try the Cu Avana maduro. With rest they're very underrated.
rah0785
Tuesday, August 9, 2011 7:33:41 PM

Rah® try the Cu Avana maduro. With rest they're very underrated.

ZRX1200 wrote:

I will do that, thanks for the tip! One of the few Cigar Bid 'cheap lines' I have yet to try in my endless smoke quest to find the best $2 or less, cigar.

dstieger
Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:12:42 AM
rah,

There are probably a dozen 'cheap stick' threads, but I'll continue to take this one down that path a little further....

I spent quite a bit of time on the same quest. Here's my suggestions for sub $2 (cbid) cigars:

-Gran Habano Vintage 2002 -- wish these were in other vitolas, but that rob is pretty darn good

-Tierra del Sol Maduro Corona -- ONLY the maddie, and best by far in corona

-Gurhka TPB-1 - Lgreat reasons for this to be under the radar (Gurkha, dumb name, etc.), but this is a very fine corojo

-5 Vegas A Anomaly -- far better in this PC size than any other

DrMaddVibe
Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:27:20 AM
Cheap will NEVER equal Quality.

Learn to afford a good cigar and stop smoking the bottom of the barrels.

If people did, we'd have better cigars out there.

Instead, we have people willing to chase a dragon and sift through garbage.

Good luck, but when I smoke a cigar I want it to enhance MY relaxation experience. It's how I unwind. It brings me great pleasure.

The last damn thing I'm going to do is go dumpster diving for a diamond in the rough.

A crap sandwich is still a crap sandwich. You guys are quibbling about nibbles or chomps!

STOP IT!

Let the riff raff smoke the White Owls.

dstieger
Wednesday, August 10, 2011 9:21:16 AM
Wow, DMV.....

There was a great big 'ol sign at the top of this thread that said "This way to the slums". Yet, in you stumble anyway. And then complain that it stinks. Get your elitist self back to your palace in the hills.

Ain't right going down to the soup kitchen just to kick that homeless vet begging for a nickle so you can tell him to get a job.

DrMaddVibe
Wednesday, August 10, 2011 10:14:22 AM

Wow, DMV.....

There was a great big 'ol sign at the top of this thread that said "This way to the slums". Yet, in you stumble anyway. And then complain that it stinks. Get your elitist self back to your palace in the hills.

Ain't right going down to the soup kitchen just to kick that homeless vet begging for a nickle so you can tell him to get a job.

dstieger wrote:

It's pathetic that you bleed in something that isn't even there.