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Tuesday, November 1, 2011 7:58:15 PM
That's right, you read right – morality is changeable and context sensitive. If you ever heard of “Moral Absolutes”, well that was a metaphor . . . . .

'Thou shalt not kill” means don't murder. But murder is only murder when most people think it is wrong. If the state pays you to kill – it's not really murder, is it?

wheelrite
Tuesday, November 1, 2011 8:03:07 PM
[quote=Brewha]That's right, you read right – morality is changeable and context sensitive. If you ever heard of “Moral Absolutes”, well that was a metaphor . . . . .

'Thou shalt not kill” means don't murder. But murder is only murder when most people think it is wrong. If the state pays you to kill – it's not really murder, is it?[/quote]

Self defense is not murder..

execution is...

jetblasted
Tuesday, November 1, 2011 8:25:23 PM
Eye for an Eye . . .
wheelrite
Tuesday, November 1, 2011 8:28:16 PM
[quote=jetblasted]Eye for an Eye . . . [/quote]

Two wrongs don't make a right...

FuzzNJ
Tuesday, November 1, 2011 8:36:07 PM
[quote=wheelrite]Two wrongs don't make a right...

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3 lefts do

wheelrite
Tuesday, November 1, 2011 8:40:46 PM
[quote=FuzzNJ]3 lefts do[/quote]

3 Lefts makes a Politburo...

( actulally 9)

I took poetic license...

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Tuesday, November 1, 2011 9:49:37 PM
[quote=wheelrite]Self defense is not murder..

execution is...

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Each of us judges for ourselves – or defers judgment to our teachings.

But in the end – our morality is the one we choose for ourselves – there are no absolutes.

Execution may be immoral for you – but not for others, who think it is right as rain.

wheelrite
Tuesday, November 1, 2011 9:53:19 PM
[quote=Brewha]Each of us judges for ourselves – or defers judgment to our teachings.

But in the end – our morality is the one we choose for ourselves – there are no absolutes.

Execution may be immoral for you – but not for others, who think it is right as rain. [/quote]

Thats the secular humanist slant...

Right is right,wrong is wrong...

There really is no gray area...

it's a way of saying "How dare YOU judge me"

that's all..

but in all our quietest of moments we all really know what's right and wrong...

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Tuesday, November 1, 2011 9:59:03 PM
[quote=wheelrite]Thats the secular humanist slant...

Right is right,wrong is wrong...

There really is no gray area...

it's a way of saying "How dare YOU judge me"

that's all..

but in all our quietest of moments we all really know what's right and wrong...[/quote]

It is in fact a widely held philosophical truism – outside of religious dogma.

See the world in absolutes if you please. For me, my karma ran over my dogma . . . .

wheelrite
Tuesday, November 1, 2011 10:02:06 PM
[quote=Brewha]It is in fact a widely held philosophical truism – outside of religious dogma.

See the world in absolutes if you please. For me, my karma ran over my dogma . . . .[/quote]

call it dogma if you please..

There is most certainly moral absolutes.

One who doesn't accept this when taken to the extreme is a sociopath..

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Tuesday, November 1, 2011 10:08:28 PM
[quote=wheelrite]call it dogma if you please..

There is most certainly moral absolutes.

One who doesn't accept this when taken to the extreme is a sociopath..

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You may have, believe in, and teach any number of moral absolute. But these very with the person and the culture. If there were absolutes, would not we all agree on abortion, apartheid, botox . . . .

BTW – Is it not a moral imperative of your beliefs to judge everyone? Picking on the poor Humanists - 😳

wheelrite
Tuesday, November 1, 2011 10:14:26 PM
[quote=Brewha]You may have, believe in, and teach any number of moral absolute. But these very with the person and the culture. If there were absolutes, would not we all agree on abortion, apartheid, botox . . . .

BTW – Is it not a moral imperative of your beliefs to judge everyone? Picking on the poor Humanists - 😳

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My beliefs,,

Humans are imperfect. Therefore capable of terrible things. But, I also believe there is a small piece of perfection in us all..

We all judge people everyday,even you..

We all know what is right,whether we admit it to anyone but ourselves...

remember,

you can't lie to yourself..

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Tuesday, November 1, 2011 10:38:58 PM
[quote=wheelrite]My beliefs,,

Humans are imperfect. Therefore capable of terrible things. But, I also believe there is a small piece of perfection in us all..

We all judge people everyday,even you..

We all know what is right,whether we admit it to anyone but ourselves...

remember,

you can't lie to yourself..[/quote]

Right on Bro – I judge people every time a pay them some mind. I just try to remember that we all have our own standards and opinions. And that while to me, I am was right as is possible (more so when I drink) I could be less than perfectly right in the end.

I recon if we listen to ourselves, we most always know what is right for any given happening.

Not to split hairs, but I have been enormously successful lying to myself. That is how I'm so damn handsome.

wheelrite
Tuesday, November 1, 2011 10:41:15 PM
[quote=Brewha]Right on Bro – I judge people every time a pay them some mind. I just try to remember that we all have our own standards and opinions. And that while to me, I am was right as is possible (more so when I drink) I could be less than perfectly right in the end.

I recon if we listen to ourselves, we most always know what is right for any given happening.

Not to split hairs, but I have been enormously successful lying to myself. That is how I'm so damn handsome.

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Ha !

That's where we differ..

I am beautiful,no lie !!!

[whip]

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Wednesday, November 2, 2011 1:15:39 PM
[quote=wheelrite]Ha !

That's where we differ..

I am beautiful,no lie !!!

[whip]

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Of course you are . . . .

:-"

wheelrite
Wednesday, November 2, 2011 7:06:20 PM
[quote=Brewha]Of course you are . . . .

:-"[/quote]

ask my old lady..

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Wednesday, November 2, 2011 10:01:28 PM
[quote=wheelrite]ask my old lady..[/quote]

Funny thing about that – My wife tells me I am a most handsome man. Gorgeous in most all respects and a real looker. Attractive and all.

Now, I would never call my wife a liar . . . . .

wheelrite
Wednesday, November 2, 2011 10:08:30 PM
[quote=Brewha]Funny thing about that – My wife tells me I am a most handsome man. Gorgeous in most all respects and a real looker. Attractive and all.

Now, I would never call my wife a liar . . . . .[/quote]

Well, your wife is clearly a Saint,,,

as is mine,,,

Behind every great man is a horny hot chick,,,

frankj1
Wednesday, November 2, 2011 10:31:17 PM
get a room already.
wheelrite
Wednesday, November 2, 2011 10:33:10 PM
[quote=frankj1]get a room already.[/quote]

Butt out,,,

we're having a moment..