DrMaddVibe
Thursday, November 10, 2011 7:27:17 AM
I can't remember why anyone would vote for you![whip]
wheelrite
Thursday, November 10, 2011 7:50:18 AM
He makes Biden look like JFK
DrMaddVibe
Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:00:21 AM

He makes Biden look like JFK

wheelrite wrote:




True, but when you can't articulate what your basic platform is...what separates you from the pack...when all you can do is just blink....😲 sorry.


We already have a moron sitting behind the Resolute Desk. We don't want or need another one.
watchurai
Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:42:21 AM
Spoken Gaff of the Century Award. And that is saying something in the recent political arena.

tailgater
Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:04:50 AM
oops.
elk hunter
Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:18:17 AM
I guess he should have been using Obama's teleprompters..... They have ALL the answers.....
DrMaddVibe
Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:20:33 AM

I guess he should have been using Obama's teleprompters..... They have ALL the answers.....

elk hunter wrote:




Ron Paul and Mittens were feeding him...what a hilarious exchange.

Not ready for primetime!
elk hunter
Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:38:02 AM
Ahem...

bloody spaniard
Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:38:58 AM
I would support Gingrich- Cain even as a third party ticket. Both are smart & appear to like each other as well.
IMHO the rest don't stand a chance- especially Romney.
elk hunter
Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:44:28 AM
Oh don't get me wrong, I am not necessarily a Perry fan but, I just think it is funny that people are jumping on him for a mistake when we have the likes of Obama/Biden in office...
rfenst
Friday, November 11, 2011 11:22:43 AM

I would support Gingrich- Cain even as a third party ticket. Both are smart & appear to like each other as well.
IMHO the rest don't stand a chance- especially Romney.

bloody spaniard wrote:



Gingrich is brilliant, but I cannot side with him based on his socio-religous policies and social policies/positions. I strongly suspect Cain's support will have completely abandoned him within no more than two or three weeks. Romney, in my opinion, is real good VP material, nothing more right now. The R's have got to offer something better unless the economy dives again/more.
bloody spaniard
Friday, November 11, 2011 11:45:13 AM
You could be right, Robert. Your posts are often thought-provoking.

However, if I remember correctly, the top Republicans in the polls during the last pre-election were Giuliani & Honeysuckle, er, Huckabee before lame McCain snatched the nomination.
Either way, barring a miracle, Obama's a shoo-in IMO.
rfenst
Friday, November 11, 2011 1:34:00 PM

You could be right, Robert. Your posts are often thought-provoking.

However, if I remember correctly, the top Republicans in the polls during the last pre-election were Giuliani & Honeysuckle, er, Huckabee before lame McCain snatched the nomination.
Either way, barring a miracle, Obama's a shoo-in IMO.

bloody spaniard wrote:




Giuliani was a flop because he was clueless. He had popular appeal as an outsider, but no real political machine on the ground in each state.

McCain was the lesser of two evils for me, but he blew my already- shaky confidence by lying to Letterman (seriously), insisting on delaying the Republican Convention, and the way he "parachuted" in to and ran to Washington during the financial crisis in 2008. It didn't leave me with an impression that he would make calm, collected decisions. Obama came off as far more serious and McCain left me with the impression that he makes rash, uncalculated decisions- from the gut.

Obama, after a couple months of "soul searching", became the new lesser of two evils for me. Had things gone right however, I would have voted for Hillary without reservation.

The economy is historically interesting in that it was the real reason Bush1 lost re-election. It took a few more months than he had touted for it to come around from recession. Had it done so on time, Bush1 would have probably beat Bill Clinton. I really liked Bush1 as our President as I did with Reagan. Flaws aside, they still made me feel good as an American. The economy was great during Clinton. The trade deficit was down, social programs were fairly well funded and the dollar was strong. But, I cannot give Clinton all or too much of the credit for that. Economic cycles have lives of their own. Worldwide financial problems hurt everyone else- like Greece and Italy right now.

Anyhow, I have probably given too much fodder here for others to start making personal attacks, I do believe as of right now- Obama wins.

bloody spaniard
Friday, November 11, 2011 2:31:38 PM

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McCain was the lesser of two evils for me, but he blew my already- shaky confidence by lying to Letterman (seriously), insisting on delaying the Republican Convention, and the way he "parachuted" in to and ran to Washington during the financial crisis in 2008. It didn't leave me with an impression that he would make calm, collected decisions. Obama came off as far more serious and McCain left me with the impression that he makes rash, uncalculated decisions- from the gut.

Obama, after a couple months of "soul searching", became the new lesser of two evils for me. Had things gone right however, I would have voted for Hillary without reservation.

The economy is historically interesting in that it was the real reason Bush1 lost re-election. It took a few more months than he had touted for it to come around from recession. Had it done so on time, Bush1 would have probably beat Bill Clinton. I really liked Bush1 as our President as I did with Reagan. Flaws aside, they still made me feel good as an American. The economy was great during Clinton. The trade deficit was down, social programs were fairly well funded and the dollar was strong. But, I cannot give Clinton all or too much of the credit for that. Economic cycles have lives of their own. Worldwide financial problems hurt everyone else- like Greece and Italy right now.

Anyhow, I have probably given too much fodder here for others to start making personal attacks, I do believe as of right now- Obama wins.

rfenst wrote:




Again, all salient points IMHO, and I agree with much of what you say. Not sure as to why you unduly feel that you would be under personal attack. Perhaps I haven't visited this forum much...

To me, McCain is calculated in his miscalculations because he unfortunately has a screw loose. His theatrics when he dramatically put his campaign on hold to return to DC in order to right a "tilting ship" was laughable. Not worthy of a B movie screenplay. He subsequently voted for the bailout of his banking pals anyway. He's also got a track record for taking the politically safe & expedient route on political matters since he began running in Arizona. Hard to believe that his days in the Hanoi Hilton were not doctored up & exaggerated much like Kennedy's on PT109 for PR purposes but that's for others to decide.

Bush Sr. (IMO) lost to Clinton because he lied about raising taxes and because of the 3rd party candidate, Perot, who stole more conservatives & independents from Bush than he did liberals from Clinton. Bill "Slick Willy" Clinton was blatant liar who did an arguably good job governing once he was full-nelsoned by a Republican congress into governing from the center.

All things considered, Hillary would have probably made a much better President than Obama. Like the hapless yet lucky to be elected Bush Jr., Obama just happened to be in the right place at the right time. His constituency will not abandon him unlike the Republican's who will probably opt to stay home or write in a futile third party candidate rather than vote for another politician who will revert back to chameleon once in power.

Obama will win & long be remembered as the President who just happened to be at the helm when this Titanic of a country went down.
DrMaddVibe
Friday, November 11, 2011 6:46:23 PM

The economy is historically interesting in that it was the real reason Bush1 lost re-election.

rfenst wrote:





WRONG!!!


The Arkansas Governor held that state in a death grip. Google Mena, AK and Willow Run Airport...what do they have in common?

Just say no.


Gimmie a break. He was going to blow a whistle and instead cut a deal. Usher in 43 and you see the bigger picture.

They really need a "throwin' up devil horns and head bobbin'" smiley.
jackconrad
Friday, November 11, 2011 6:51:49 PM
Maybye we could do better with a Dolt instead of a Genius
DrMaddVibe
Friday, November 11, 2011 7:02:32 PM

Maybye we could do better with a Dolt instead of a Genius

jackconrad wrote:




We could do better with just a can of Jolt!
DrMaddVibe
Friday, November 11, 2011 7:07:18 PM
wheelrite
Friday, November 11, 2011 7:11:06 PM
Ross Perot cost Bush #1 the 92 election.
ZRX1200
Friday, November 11, 2011 7:18:02 PM
Oh no poor RHINO.

Anyone question rick perry's drug use now??