Seem's even the Supreme Court cannot keep this issue Straight???

Hog

Supreme Court Won't Hear Choose Life License Plate Case

by Steven Ertelt

LifeNews.com Editor

January 24, 2005

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- The Supreme Court has declined to hear a case out of South Carolina over the issuance of Choose Life license plates. Abortion advocates took the state to court claiming the plates infringe on their First Amendment free speech rights.

The decision leaves case law in doubt as two separate federal appeals courts issued differing rulings about the constitutionality of the plates.

The top court's refusal means South Carolina must either withdraw the plates from the specialty plate system or issue license plates with a pro-abortion slogan.

Passed in 2001, the measure would allow state residents to spend $70 on the specialty plates and part of the funds would go to groups that help women find alternatives to abortion.

However, shortly after the measure took effect, Planned Parenthood filed a lawsuit contending that the plates discriminate against those who support abortion.

South Carolina officials responded that the abortion business had no standing to sue because it had no proposed a plate of its own, but a district court disagreed.

Last year, the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the district court's decision overturning the Choose Life plates. South Carolina filed a motion to reconsider the ruling, but the court voted 8-5 against it.

The appeals court's ruling is at odds with a ruling in a similar case issued by the 5th Circuit Court, which ruled that abortion advocates in Louisiana had no standing to sue in a similar Choose Life plate case. The Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal in the Louisiana case.

The case is Rose v. Planned Parenthood of South Carolina, 04-429.

http://www.lifenews.com/state853.html 

Mrs UsaHog:

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I sit back and listen to all these women screaming about how they should be treated fairly and the truth be known they are not capable of even making their own decisions. They got their way and they are now on the front lines in war and all you hear is how they are being raped and all the other bull**** they throw up. Hell, if you ask me my opinion, they probably asked for it. They are hanging out with only men, running around with their breast hanging out and prick teasing these guys and they want to cry when something happens?? Give me a break. Suck it up and take it like a man. That is what you wanted in the first place to be treated like one. You didn't stop until you got your ass there. So shut the hell up. I am not saying all cases are false, but a majority of them are.

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Holy crap, I'm going to assume either this was a "heat of the moment" rant (which it doesn't look like since it was paragraph 4 of 5) or somehow your words aren't meant to convey the thought that women in the warzone who were sexually assaulted by their comrades were most likely "asking for it" and should "suck it up & take it like a man".

If you meant this, then I'm sorry but with all due respect (rapidly approaching zero) this kind of thinking is the product of a severely warped sociological paradigm, frequently found in those referred to commonly (albeit vulgarly) as "damaged goods".

Please tell me I'm somehow misreading what is right in front of me in black & white. I included the whole paragraph above, and have read it 10 times, literally. Seriously, I keep trying to make it say something other than "most of these women deserve to be raped because they were asking for it" and I can't. I have a hard time believing anyone could be so... whatever.

No woman "deserves" to be raped.

No amount of strutting, flirting, or *roosterteasing is justification for rape.

No woman who is raped should just STHU & "take it like a man", whatever the hell that means.

Damn...

DaBear

No woman deserves to be raped. In no way shape or form does that sentence say that. What it says is....Women bitched and bitched for equal rights and they got them. When things get a little rough or tough for them they find a way to create and stir ****. I will still hold my ground with what I said...A majority of those so called rapes are false. I have no sympathy for anyone who lies and cheats to get where they are. And I am sorry, but a majority of women in the military are only there because they were able to lie and cheat their way in. I have heard first hand women brag about how they slept with so and so and things were so easy for them.........Horse ****!! Next week she will scream rape if she does not get her way. That is what the hell I am talking about.

As far as your remark about damaged goods........You can go straight to HELL!!

Mrs. Usahog

"Please tell me I'm somehow misreading what is right in front of me in black & white. I included the whole paragraph above, and have read it 10 times, literally. Seriously, I keep trying to make it say something other than "most of these women deserve to be raped because they were asking for it" and I can't. I have a hard time believing anyone could be so... whatever."

Yep you are misreading what is right in front of you...

My wife spent allot of time with me around Women in the Air Force and Guard... some single women some not... and she viewed from a distance some of the crap they pulled, not only on duty but off duty in the bars etc... so I can reflect where she was coming from with her paragraph above DaBear...

I don't understand how out of all the posts here on "Abortion debate" you chose the "Rape" topic to attack how my wife feels about the issue... and you went on to explain "Your" Zero respect for her?? and then went on to say she's damaged goods??? LOL... not only do you not understand her but your short on views on life also Bubba!!!

I think you've got a problem with me on other posts and you see you cannot unearth my position so you'll take pot shots at the woman in my life to climb under my skin... well Yep we're all human... and I will defend my wife 200% weather she needs it or not...

but some of your posting above shows just what a low life I'm dealing with...

You honestly owe the woman an appology for your ignorance!!!!

Remember freedom of speach!!!

Hog

btw you wanna talk we can do that off forum..

usahog (at) hotmail (dot) com...

but also remember my respect for you is less then zero!!!

"I think you've got a problem with me on other posts..."

YEA! I do have a problem with ya'!

Wanna take it outside?!

:)~

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I don't understand how out of all the posts here on "Abortion debate" you chose the "Rape" topic to attack how my wife feels about the issue... and you went on to explain "Your" Zero respect for her?? and then went on to say she's damaged goods??? LOL... not only do you not understand her but your short on views on life also Bubba!!!

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I didn't attack her pro-life views, I responded to her tragic views on women who are raped. You ask why I responded to her one(1) post out of ninety-eight(98) others? Those other 98 posts didn't say, and I quote:

"Hell, if you ask me my opinion, they probably asked for it. They are hanging out with only men, running around with their breast hanging out and prick teasing these guys and they want to cry when something happens?"

No, I didn't misread it or misconstrue her meaning, I wrote "maybe I misread it" as a way out for her if she was unaware of what she wrote, or in any way didn't mean it. Apparently she wasn't ranting & does mean it. So yes, I think her thoughts on the subject are tragic.

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I think you've got a problem with me on other posts and you see you cannot unearth my position so you'll take pot shots at the woman in my life to climb under my skin... well Yep we're all human... and I will defend my wife 200% weather she needs it or not...

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LOL. Not. The world doesn't revolve around you. I don't agree with your "views", but I certainly didn't have a problem with you in general, nor would I need to "go after your wife to get under your skin". You post, I answer. You feel obligated to defend your wife in any "weather", I can understand that and frankly I'm sorry you are placed in this position. But, her statement was and is despicable. Should I have not responded simply because she is your wife? Sorry Bubba, that was a sick thing to write, whether it came from you, your wife, or anyone else.

If you want to hate me for what I said, that's your prerogative, but I will not sit idly by while anyone espouses that a woman who is raped, whether she was flirting excessively or showing too much skin or not, got what she deserved.

I'll give you this, I do apologize for the "damaged goods" sentence, my views on her mental state shouldn't have been written. All the mudslinging I've been reading must have affected my judgement, but that is no excuse, and my apology for that innuendo is sincere. To be clear though, this in no way changes the way I feel about her statements.

DaBear,

You are not worth my time to respond!!!

Mrs. Usahog

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No woman deserves to be raped.

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Thank you.

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In no way shape or form does that sentence say that.

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Here, you read it:

"Hell, if you ask me my opinion, they probably asked for it. They are hanging out with only men, running around with their breast hanging out and prick teasing these guys and they want to cry when something happens?? Give me a break."

I'm sorry, that sentence says that EXACTLY. Whether you admit it or not doesn't change the words.

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And I am sorry, but a majority of women in the military are only there because they were able to lie and cheat their way in.

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Nice way to support our troops. I'm sure every female soldier will be greatly comforted to read your opinion on how & why they are serving their country. Again, these are your words, I'm copying them verbatim.

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As far as your remark about damaged goods........You can go straight to HELL!!

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You are right, and I deserved that. As I told your husband (see post above) I should never have typed that sentence. Sincerely, you have my apology for that, it should never have been written.

This is NOT meant to be derogatory or inflammatory, but I must say you do seem to have strong feelings regarding women serving in the military. When I was in, I served with women who were professional, and women who were sluts, and women who were intelligent, and women who were braindead. Just like the men I served with, the women ran the intellectual and ethical gamut.

Your statement that the majority of women serving lied/cheated their way in is the equivalent of me saying the majority of men serving are guys who are too dumb to survive on the outside. This would be a preposterous statement, while true in SOME case, a poor generalization of all men in uniform.

I'm seriously not trying to be a jerk, I'm trying to have a rational conversation, nothing more. If my earlier lapse of judgement makes that impossible, I guess I can understand that as well.

I was in the process of writing the above when you replied that I wasn't worth your time responding to. I won't discuss this issue with you any further.

Well said Mrs. Hog...

Sonny did you say something??? LMAO!!!!

No means No....

DaBear I have no hate for you whatsoever!!!

matter fact I told the Mrs. today when she came home for lunch to just add you to her prayer list...as I will do the same... you could read what she wrote 100 times over ... but you wouldn't catch the meaning of what she was saying...

Hog