Canon has a customer loyalty program that will let me get a refurb 60d with 18-135mm glass for $831 or the body only for 640. It's basically 20% off their regular refurb prices but you must ship your old camera in.

The 831 deal is on the following

http://shop.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10051_10051_276389_-1 

Refurb only has 90 day warranty. Worth the risk? Any hesitation buying a canon refurb directly from canon?

Jet I know you are a Nikon guy but is this worth considering? Body only, kit, or neither?

Any other opinions? Ram says its ok.

So, Canon gets my vote.

chances are nothings going to happen in that time anyway.

Would it be to costly for a new one?

I know they have like a 2 year for T.V.s

Thats a lot of $$$ for me, to busy spending it on ceeeegars

18 mp, full HD pictures and videos... it's badass. The pictures are amazing.

I look at woot every day. Haven't seen this guy but will keep looking.

Refurb, though, right? I bought mine new, refurbs kinda scare me. Jet says buying lenses used is a pretty good deal, because glass is glass... as long as it isn't broken, it should work as new.

Cameras, not so much. It's a slight risk, but if you get a good one, you win big.