HockeyDad
Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:48:21 AM
The solution really is simple. Raise taxes from the private sector to properly fund the government sector.
8trackdisco
Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:57:00 PM
[quote=dpnewell] Most of them have had it very easy over the past 4 years.

They have nothing to compare it to, so it isn't easy for them.

Making 80k, you still had problems. Making 60k becomes a problem after you make 80k.

I have less than 60k problems.

8trackdisco
Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:01:22 PM
[quote=dpnewell]My property taxes went up more then $1000 over the past 4 years.

Wow, your house got bigger fast.

dpnewell
Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:59:57 PM

[quote=dpnewell]My property taxes went up more then $1000 over the past 4 years.

Wow, your house got bigger fast.

8trackdisco wrote:

No, the house is the same size as when I moved in back in '93. Taxes where $3200 when I moved in. They are now just over $7000. In the same time frame, average NJ Teacher salaries went from $44,000 to $68,000.

dpnewell
Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:20:11 PM

I don't know, David. I re-read your post and it still appears to me that you're blaming government employees and fairly explicitly saying 'commercial sector folks have had it tough, so government employees should suffer, too'.

No secret that I'm in the former group, so not exactly unbiased. However, this is a pretty ham-fisted approach to a problem that is congress' making. If you agree that we need efficiencies and intelligent reductions, this is not the way to get there.

dstieger wrote:

Maybe I'm just a little p*ssed at all the crying government employees and their poor sob stories they keep playing on TV. Many of them come across as elitists that shouldn't have to tighten their belts during a time of economic turn down. Ask them, and I bet you would find that many would be fine with raising taxes further on the struggling private sector, forcing more folks into suffering and poverty, as long as it means them keeping their inflated salaries and benefits.

DrMaddVibe
Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:23:08 PM

No, the house is the same size as when I moved in back in '93. Taxes where $3200 when I moved in. They are now just over $7000. In the same time frame, average NJ Teacher salaries went from $44,000 to $68,000.

dpnewell wrote:

I don't know how you do it...I'd leave that state in a New York minute!

dpnewell
Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:26:19 PM

[quote=dpnewell] Most of them have had it very easy over the past 4 years.

They have nothing to compare it to, so it isn't easy for them.

Making 80k, you still had problems. Making 60k becomes a problem after you make 80k.

I have less than 60k problems.

8trackdisco wrote:

Dude, the years I made 80k, I gave a ton of money away, and still had way more then I needed. Even the 60k years I had considerable excess. Maybe that's why I can now make it on $25k, while paying all my bills and still enjoying cigars.

Folks making $80k that can't get by on $60k, only have themselves to blame.

dpnewell
Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:31:26 PM

I don't know how you do it...I'd leave that state in a New York minute!

DrMaddVibe wrote:

We're trying to get our NC house ready to move in. New kitchen, baths, deck, railings, paint, hardwood, carpet, etc. Going slow, especially since it's 500 miles from our Jersey place, and the wife and I are doing all the work. One more season (spring, summer, early fall) for my Awning company, and we shut down, put the Jersey place on the market, and get out of there.

DrMaddVibe
Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:36:38 PM

We're trying to get our NC house ready to move in. New kitchen, baths, deck, railings, paint, hardwood, carpet, etc. Going slow, especially since it's 500 miles from our Jersey place, and the wife and I are doing all the work. One more season (spring, summer, early fall) for my Awning company, and we shut down, put the Jersey place on the market, and get out of there.

dpnewell wrote:

Get ALL of your family outta that place...no need to visit once you leave!

Buckwheat
Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:47:45 PM

Do you think country will implode (job losses) or just another phony fiscal cliff scenario w/bandaid quick fix at the last minute?

bloody spaniard wrote:

Very little of the first and definitely a lot of phony fiscal cliff like BS. And the world will turn and nothing will change. Have a drink and a smoke and be happy that you're not Irish. 🍺

DrMaddVibe
Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:50:16 PM

Very little of the first and definitely a lot of phony fiscal cliff like BS. And the world will turn and nothing will change. Have a drink and a smoke and be happy that you're not Irish. 🍺

Buckwheat wrote:

Yeah...screw Notre Dame and their make-believe girlfriends!

HockeyDad
Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:51:10 PM

Maybe I'm just a little p*ssed at all the crying government employees and their poor sob stories they keep playing on TV. Many of them come across as elitists that shouldn't have to tighten their belts during a time of economic turn down. Ask them, and I bet you would find that many would be fine with raising taxes further on the struggling private sector, forcing more folks into suffering and poverty, as long as it means them keeping their inflated salaries and benefits.

dpnewell wrote:

It not just sob stories......If sequestration is allowed to happen, we will be forced to eliminate all police, firepersons, and teachers and EL Quada, Mexico and Canada will invade and take over the USA due to our depleted military and carve it up into Spanish, French, and Arabic sectors.

This will happen without tax increases.

DrafterX
Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:51:58 PM

Yeah...screw Notre Dame and their make-believe girlfriends!

DrMaddVibe wrote:

poor Rudy.... 😞

DrMaddVibe
Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:52:36 PM

poor Rudy.... 😞

DrafterX wrote:

Meh...before Pedro...there was Rudy.

DrMaddVibe
Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:55:26 PM

It not just sob stories......If sequestration is allowed to happen, we will be forced to eliminate all police, firepersons, and teachers and EL Quada, Mexico and Canada will invade and take over the USA due to our depleted military and carve it up into Spanish, French, and Arabic sectors.

This will happen without tax increases.

HockeyDad wrote:

Its been like forever since I was able to watch a donkey show while eating round bacon drizzled in maple syrup with a side of fries and gravy served by dancing veiled wimmens in a crime free zone with a sprinkler system...Ah...Detroit...sometimes I do miss it![gonzo]

8trackdisco
Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:05:36 PM

I don't know how you do it...I'd leave that state in a New York minute!

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Wouldn't that be a New JERSEY minute?

8trackdisco
Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:08:50 PM

Dude, the years I made 80k, I gave a ton of money away, and still had way more then I needed. Even the 60k years I had considerable excess. Maybe that's why I can now make it on $25k, while paying all my bills and still enjoying cigars.

Folks making $80k that can't get by on $60k, only have themselves to blame.

dpnewell wrote:

As unamerican as the concept is, there is something to be said for living below your means. It is only a matter of time for all of us. We'll eventually all get to the employer tippling point where we aren't worth what we are being paid. Or our jobs disappear.

Keep squirreling away your nuts.

Forget giving to charity. You'll need it for yourself soon enough.

Buckwheat
Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:10:30 PM

It not just sob stories......If sequestration is allowed to happen, we will be forced to eliminate all police, firepersons, and teachers and EL Quada, Mexico and Canada will invade and take over the USA due to our depleted military and carve it up into Spanish, French, and Arabic sectors.

This will happen without tax increases.

HockeyDad wrote:

Look on the bright side: At least we would be able to get legal Cuban Cigars in those three sectors and maybe hash.

8trackdisco
Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:10:30 PM

We're trying to get our NC house ready to move in. New kitchen, baths, deck, railings, paint, hardwood, carpet, etc. Going slow, especially since it's 500 miles from our Jersey place, and the wife and I are doing all the work. One more season (spring, summer, early fall) for my Awning company, and we shut down, put the Jersey place on the market, and get out of there.

dpnewell wrote:

You have two homes?

I have one home, one bathroom.

Suck it up, Buttercup.

HockeyDad
Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:11:28 PM

You have two homes?

I have one home, one bathroom.

Suck it up, Buttercup.

8trackdisco wrote:

He's one of them richers. Get him!

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