At a $4-$5 price point these are good, but at MSRP I would fight for a deal on a better cigar. I received two of these and after a week of letting em sit, the first one was kind of mediocre. On a par with a V Series Lancero imo, but not much better (this means its ok) and not worth the $6+ price. I would prefer to fight for a $7 steal on a higher grade cigar.