RICKAMAVEN
Sunday, June 29, 2014 11:40:43 AM

?

ZRX1200
Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:45:26 PM
SHOULDN'T EXISTS.
Gene363
Sunday, June 29, 2014 1:02:20 PM

If the democrats and republicans really cared about workers wages, they would stop the flow of low wage workers flooding across the southern border. Anything else about this topic that comes out of their pie holes is party fluff and total BS.

ZRX1200
Sunday, June 29, 2014 2:35:21 PM
^ this
MACS
Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:42:14 PM

^ this

ZRX1200 wrote:

x a bazillion.

sd72
Sunday, June 29, 2014 4:40:50 PM
ricka, I find it odd that a man who lives off of SS and Medicare would post about minimum wage. Have you received more than you paid in yet? I hope you're saying that you stand behind it.

The greatest country in the worlds history prolly should have a minimum wage. How much it is, of course, is debatable.

Do we really want collusion, and wage fixing by companies?

ZRX1200
Sunday, June 29, 2014 4:59:18 PM
Spoken like a union member.....
sd72
Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:03:35 PM
Yup
Gene363
Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:32:19 PM

ricka, I find it odd that a man who lives off of SS and Medicare would post about minimum wage. Have you received more than you paid in yet? I hope you're saying that you stand behind it.

The greatest country in the worlds history prolly should have a minimum wage. How much it is, of course, is debatable.

Do we really want collusion, and wage fixing by companies?

sd72 wrote:

Idiot politicians robbed the SS fund over the years, it only exists today only as a ponzi scheme. If could have invested the money they took over the years for SS I would be much better off today.

jetblasted
Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:48:58 PM

If the democrats and republicans really cared about workers wages, they would stop the flow of low wage workers flooding across the southern border. Anything else about this topic that comes out of their pie holes is party fluff and total BS.

Gene363 wrote:

I saw a headline the other day stating all jobs created in the last decade went to immigrant workers.

Working at the airport, I can attest to the HUNDRED's of Africans that have been hired lately, plus, All the Indian workers that are flooding into Our Country.

We're being invading across Mexico, and through New York JFK . . .

Gene363
Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:54:31 PM

I saw a headline the other day stating all jobs created in the last decade went to immigrant workers.

Working at the airport, I can attest to the HUNDRED's of Africans that have been hired lately, plus, All the Indian workers that are flooding into Our Country.

We're being invading across Mexico, and through New York JFK . . .

jetblasted wrote:

Wouldn't surprise me, and they are not just working jobs citizens won't do, for instance $20 an hour driving construction dump trucks.

jackconrad
Sunday, June 29, 2014 11:35:30 PM
in sales and self employment we have no wage at all and do ok , personally i wished everyone made 25 bucks an hour but you have to earn it not have it automatically given to you..
tailgater
Monday, June 30, 2014 12:12:43 AM

in sales and self employment we have no wage at all and do ok , personally i wished everyone made 25 bucks an hour but you have to earn it not have it automatically given to you..

jackconrad wrote:

And don't forget tenure!

gryphonms
Monday, June 30, 2014 9:24:46 AM
As a practical matter minimum wage needs to be increased to allow people that are willing to work to not have to also collect welfare to survive. I have no desire to subsidize any companies labor force with taxes paid. Why should anyone subsidize a company? Also I do not think the effect of raising minum wage would have as devastating of an effect on prices as many do. I did the math for a few scenarios, posted 1 scenario in a previous OP. If my math was accurate the overall increase would be around 6%. I can live with that.
stogiefan
Monday, June 30, 2014 10:32:15 AM

As a practical matter minimum wage needs to be increased to allow people that are willing to work to not have to also collect welfare to survive. I have no desire to subsidize any companies labor force with taxes paid. Why should anyone subsidize a company? Also I do not think the effect of raising minum wage would have as devastating of an effect on prices as many do. I did the math for a few scenarios, posted 1 scenario in a previous OP. If my math was accurate the overall increase would be around 6%. I can live with that.

gryphonms wrote:

Raising minimum wage is not practical at all. It's not just about the cost of goods and services going up but people legitimately being priced out of a job. You can't hire someone for $15/hr if they only provide $8 worth of labor an hour. Teen/youth unemployment is already very high. Raising minimum wage would hurt young, inexperienced workers and make it harder to get their first foot in the door. It's noble to want to help people out but its not an employer's responsibility to pay their workers a wage high enough to keep them off welfare. They are paid a wage based on the value of their labor.

ZRX1200
Monday, June 30, 2014 10:38:48 AM
Shhhh.....he hates the middle class
MACS
Monday, June 30, 2014 10:51:36 AM

in sales and self employment we have no wage at all and do ok , personally i wished everyone made 25 bucks an hour but you have to earn it not have it automatically given to you..

jackconrad wrote:

Screw you! I ain't taking a pay cut! :-"

gryphonms
Monday, June 30, 2014 10:55:22 AM
So you would rather keep minimum wage where it is at and also pay those people welfare? Because that is the reality of what is happening. I agree with the whole discussion of supply and demand. But at this point welfare benifts have made supply and demand for minimum wage irrelevant. Also many people now view minimum wage jobs as careers since we have lost our manufacturing base.
DrafterX
Monday, June 30, 2014 11:01:21 AM
you're purposely trying to make it sound like all minimum wage earners are on welfare too.... we all know better... 😟
gryphonms
Monday, June 30, 2014 11:26:06 AM
Quit being dense. Many companies even have programs to help their employees get welfare benefits. If you think this is preferable fine. To say this is not happening is unrealistic. Stogiefan makes a well thought out point. ZRX makes a funny joke. You make a blanket statement that is innacurate. If you think I am trying to convince everyone that all minimum wage earners collect welfare then you need to improve your reading comprehension.
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