KingoftheCove
11 years ago
your "estimation" of $30/cigar is a bit high..........................................
earthson
11 years ago

You're comparing apples to oranges. Many Cubans are machine-made cigars. If you subtract them from the equation, you are left with cigars that average somewhere around $30.00 a stick (I'm just estimating.) That's not even counting the Cohiba Behike which retails for something like $800 a stick. Top Cuban cigars retail way above $30. And, when you factor in the fact that most Cubans are small, by American standards, the prices are even more outrageous. Going back to cigars that are allowed to be sold in the United States, the only cigars that come to mind (I'm sure there are others) are Fuente and Padron that would make your allegation correct. Most cigar smokers in this country cannot afford these cigars on a regular basis and, if I were to make a guess, I would say that the average price paid by a cigar smoker in this country is $5.00 a stick or less. :-({|=

QMPASH wrote:



I'm guessing this is some kind of joke. Surely no one would invent this kind of information and expect people to believe it.
Oscar
11 years ago
I have deal for you! Only $28 a cigar!
dstieger
11 years ago

You're comparing apples to oranges. Many Cubans are machine-made cigars. If you subtract them from the equation, you are left with cigars that average somewhere around $30.00 a stick (I'm just estimating.) That's not even counting the Cohiba Behike which retails for something like $800 a stick. Top Cuban cigars retail way above $30. And, when you factor in the fact that most Cubans are small, by American standards, the prices are even more outrageous. Going back to cigars that are allowed to be sold in the United States, the only cigars that come to mind (I'm sure there are others) are Fuente and Padron that would make your allegation correct. Most cigar smokers in this country cannot afford these cigars on a regular basis and, if I were to make a guess, I would say that the average price paid by a cigar smoker in this country is $5.00 a stick or less. :-({|=

QMPASH wrote:




what?
joev
11 years ago

You're comparing apples to oranges. Many Cubans are machine-made cigars. If you subtract them from the equation, you are left with cigars that average somewhere around $30.00 a stick (I'm just estimating.) That's not even counting the Cohiba Behike which retails for something like $800 a stick. Top Cuban cigars retail way above $30. And, when you factor in the fact that most Cubans are small, by American standards, the prices are even more outrageous. Going back to cigars that are allowed to be sold in the United States, the only cigars that come to mind (I'm sure there are others) are Fuente and Padron that would make your allegation correct. Most cigar smokers in this country cannot afford these cigars on a regular basis and, if I were to make a guess, I would say that the average price paid by a cigar smoker in this country is $5.00 a stick or less. :-({|=

QMPASH wrote:



This guy knows what he is talking about.

I retract my statement about the intelligence of this community.
TrishS@CigarBid
11 years ago

The mothership is the CI website as opposed to this auction site, CBid.

CBid was nailed for selling fake Opus maduro recently, which is, oddly, right around the time Fuente pulled all of their products from the site. Coincidence?

earthson wrote:



If this was really true, wouldn't charges be brought about against a company such as this? I would think that a brand as venerated as Fuente would do that to protect their name. But last I heard, that didn't happen. In fact, we have a pretty good relationship with them.

Maybe, just maybe, they removed ALL of their products from this auction site to protect their brand. Could that be it? Or does that blow up your conspiracy theory and therefore cannot be possible?

Earthson - I'm puzzled why you would purchase from a company that you feel is so unethical that a vendor would pull his products from their site? How do we remain the #1 premium cigar distributor if we're this unethical? It just doesn't make sense.

And I would appreciate it if you would stop spreading this rumor. You've stated it on multiple threads and it really needs to stop.
joev
11 years ago

If this was really true, wouldn't charges be brought about against a company such as this? I would think that a brand as venerated as Fuente would do that to protect their name. But last I heard, that didn't happen. In fact, we have a pretty good relationship with them.

Maybe, just maybe, they removed ALL of their products from this auction site to protect their brand. Could that be it? Or does that blow up your conspiracy theory and therefore cannot be possible?

Earthson - I'm puzzled why you would purchase from a company that you feel is so unethical that a vendor would pull his products from their site? How do we remain the #1 premium cigar distributor if we're this unethical? It just doesn't make sense.

And I would appreciate it if you would stop spreading this rumor. You've stated it on multiple threads and it really needs to stop.

TrishS@CigarBid wrote:



You are a loyal employee Trish. I admire that.
Jay9Jay9Jay9
11 years ago

You're comparing apples to oranges. Many Cubans are machine-made cigars. If you subtract them from the equation, you are left with cigars that average somewhere around $30.00 a stick (I'm just estimating.) That's not even counting the Cohiba Behike which retails for something like $800 a stick. Top Cuban cigars retail way above $30. And, when you factor in the fact that most Cubans are small, by American standards, the prices are even more outrageous. Going back to cigars that are allowed to be sold in the United States, the only cigars that come to mind (I'm sure there are others) are Fuente and Padron that would make your allegation correct. Most cigar smokers in this country cannot afford these cigars on a regular basis and, if I were to make a guess, I would say that the average price paid by a cigar smoker in this country is $5.00 a stick or less. :-({|=

QMPASH wrote:



So much good material in this!!!! $800 per stick! :)



QMPASH
11 years ago

your "estimation" of $30/cigar is a bit high..........................................

KingoftheCove wrote:



Is it?? See the price list below. You can check out more on the web.


Cohiba Cuban Cigars ...A new brand of Cuban cigars which was introduced only in 1968, Cohiba quickly became the flagship brand of the Cuban cigar industry. Developed initially as a medium bodied protocol cigar for presentation only by officials of the Cuban government, Cohiba was marketed widely beginning in 1982. The initial sizes were the Lancero, the Corona Especiale and the Panetela, with the Esplendido, Robusto and Exquisito added in 1989. In 1992, in salute to the 500th anniversary of Columbus' discovery of the Caribbean, the Siglo series was introduced.

Box price per stick is $27.72 Length: 6 Ring Gauge: 38

Cohiba Corona Especiales BOX OF 25
$693.00

Qty:

Length: 6 Ring Gauge: 38

Cohiba Corona Especiales SINGLE
$34.65

Qty:
Box price per stick is $52.5 Length: 7 Ring Gauge: 47

Cohiba Esplendido BOX OF 25
$1,312.50

Qty:
Length: 7 Ring Gauge: 47

Cohiba Esplendido SINGLE
$65.63

Qty:
Box price per stick is $19.32 Length: 4 7/8 Ring Gauge: 36

Cohiba Exquisitos BOX OF 25
$483.00

Qty:
Length: 4 7/8 Ring Gauge: 36

Cohiba Exquisitos SINGLE
$24.15

Qty:

Box price per stick is $34.02 Length: 7 1/2 Ring Gauge: 38

Cohiba Lanceros BOX OF 25
$850.50

Qty:
Length: 7 1/2 Ring Gauge: 38

Cohiba Lanceros SINGLE
$42.53

Qty:

Box price per stick is $47.54 Length: 5 1/2 Ring Gauge: 52

Cohiba Maduro 5 Series Genios BOX OF 10
$475.44

Qty:

Box price per stick is $47.54 Length: 5 1/2 Ring Gauge: 52

Cohiba Maduro 5 Series Genios BOX OF 25
$1,188.60

Qty:
Length: 5 1/2 Ring Gauge: 52

Cohiba Maduro 5 Series Genios SINGLE
$59.43

Qty:

Box price per stick is $42.5 Length: 4 1/2 Ring Gauge: 52

Cohiba Maduro 5 Series Magicos BOX OF 10
$425.04

Qty:

Box price per stick is $42.5 Length: 4 1/2 Ring Gauge: 52

Cohiba Maduro 5 Series Magicos BOX OF 25
$1,062.60

Qty:

Length: 4 1/2 Ring Gauge: 52

Cohiba Maduro 5 Series Magicos SINGLE
$53.13

Qty:
Length: 6 1/8 Ring Gauge: 54

Cohiba Piramedes Extra SINGLE
$64.58


Qty:


Box price per stick is $21.84 Length: 4 3/8 Ring Gauge: 40

Cohiba Maduro 5 Series Secretos BOX OF 10
$218.40

Qty:
Box price per stick is $21.84 Length: 4 3/8 Ring Gauge: 40

Cohiba Maduro 5 Series Secretos BOX OF 25
$546.00

Qty:
Length: 4 3/8 Ring Gauge: 40

Cohiba Maduro 5 Series Secretos SINGLE
$27.30

Qty:

Box price per stick is $14.53 Length: 4 1/2 Ring Gauge: 26

Cohiba Panatelas BOX OF 25
$363.30

🐴 [frypan] 😣 👻
QMPASH
11 years ago

I have deal for you! Only $28 a cigar!

Oscar wrote:


Okay, send me a box of Behikes.
dstieger
11 years ago
Q.....what????
QMPASH
11 years ago

If this was really true, wouldn't charges be brought about against a company such as this? I would think that a brand as venerated as Fuente would do that to protect their name. But last I heard, that didn't happen. In fact, we have a pretty good relationship with them.

Maybe, just maybe, they removed ALL of their products from this auction site to protect their brand. Could that be it? Or does that blow up your conspiracy theory and therefore cannot be possible?

Earthson - I'm puzzled why you would purchase from a company that you feel is so unethical that a vendor would pull his products from their site? How do we remain the #1 premium cigar distributor if we're this unethical? It just doesn't make sense.

And I would appreciate it if you would stop spreading this rumor. You've stated it on multiple threads and it really needs to stop.

TrishS@CigarBid wrote:



Earthson doesn't check his facts. The truth is that another cigar auction, which I can't mention because of the rules, had their hands "slapped" by Fuente. It wasn't C-bid. Good for you Trish for calling this guy out. 🇨🇮
Jay9Jay9Jay9
11 years ago
1) You do realize that there are other brands of Cuban cigars than just Cohiba, right?

2) You need to find a better source for cigars!
QMPASH
11 years ago

So much good material in this!!!! $800 per stick! :)



Jay9Jay9Jay9 wrote:



It's true but they were "beaten" out by the Gurkha Black Dragon which, upon its original release, was selling for something like $1200 a cigar. And, they ain't even Cubans. 😱
DrafterX
11 years ago
I heard Clinton smokes those... 😟
Jay9Jay9Jay9
11 years ago
So I thought it would be fun to compare the prices that Q listed to some reputable online shops (and not the cheapest either)

Cohiba Corona Especiales BOX OF 25 $693.00 compared to $355.00
Cohiba Esplendido BOX OF 25 $1,312.50 compared to $650
Cohiba Exquisitos BOX OF 25 $483.00 compared to $230
Cohiba Lanceros BOX OF 25 $850.50 compared to $425
Cohiba Maduro 5 Series Genios BOX OF 10 $475.44 compared to $225
Cohiba Maduro 5 Series Genios BOX OF 25 $1,188.60 compared to $490
Cohiba Maduro 5 Series Magicos BOX OF 10 $425.04 compared to $199
Cohiba Maduro 5 Series Magicos BOX OF 25 $1,062.60 compared to $473
Cohiba Maduro 5 Series Secretos BOX OF 10 $218.40 compared to $125
Cohiba Maduro 5 Series Secretos BOX OF 25 $546.00 compared to $239

Cohiba Behike 52 Single $800 compared to $32

...must be fakes since they do not come in that fancy glass top box! 🙂
Oscar
11 years ago
wheelrite
11 years ago

I have a crush on wheel. He has dreamy eyes !

TrishS@CigarBid wrote:




oh my,,

wheel,,
joev
11 years ago

Earthson doesn't check his facts. The truth is that another cigar auction, which I can't mention because of the rules, had their hands "slapped" by Fuente. It wasn't C-bid. Good for you Trish for calling this guy out. 🇨🇮

QMPASH wrote:



Those guys at Cigar Family.com are real jerks. They told me something completely different. Cigar family sucks!!!
QMPASH
11 years ago

So I thought it would be fun to compare the prices that Q listed to some reputable online shops (and not the cheapest either)

Cohiba Corona Especiales BOX OF 25 $693.00 compared to $355.00
Cohiba Esplendido BOX OF 25 $1,312.50 compared to $650
Cohiba Exquisitos BOX OF 25 $483.00 compared to $230
Cohiba Lanceros BOX OF 25 $850.50 compared to $425
Cohiba Maduro 5 Series Genios BOX OF 10 $475.44 compared to $225
Cohiba Maduro 5 Series Genios BOX OF 25 $1,188.60 compared to $490
Cohiba Maduro 5 Series Magicos BOX OF 10 $425.04 compared to $199
Cohiba Maduro 5 Series Magicos BOX OF 25 $1,062.60 compared to $473
Cohiba Maduro 5 Series Secretos BOX OF 10 $218.40 compared to $125
Cohiba Maduro 5 Series Secretos BOX OF 25 $546.00 compared to $239

Cohiba Behike 52 Single $800 compared to $32

...must be fakes since they do not come in that fancy glass top box! :)

Jay9Jay9Jay9 wrote:




A couple of things bother me about your list. First of all no sizes are mentioned. Secondly; what does "compared to" mean? Is the "compared to" price the price that they are actually selling the sticks at? Is this a one-time special or the price they normally sell these cigars at? And, if the "compared to" price is their actual selling price, they either may not be in business long or they are not as "reputable" as you may think. Take the 1st line. the Corona Especiales, for example. If $693 is the MSRP and assuming 40 percent is their markup, they are selling their sticks below the price they are paying at their distributor. The only other explanation is that these are phony MSRP's (not uncommon, I admit) which puts their reputability (?) in doubt. And, if that final line on the Behike is correct, they will have a lot of customers. Selling an $800 cigar for $32?? Never happen!!! 🤔
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