8nthatk
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11 years ago
I’ll take the Pats @ -9 points for a fine fiver.
LetsRock
11 years ago
I will give you a chance to get even from poker...you are on!!
8nthatk
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11 years ago
Excellent! GL
chazbo
11 years ago
Rex on the hot seat. I think as bad as they are they keep it within a TD.
LetsRock
11 years ago
Maybe even win outright....did I go to far?
shaun341
11 years ago

Rex on the hot seat. I think as bad as they are they keep it within a TD.

chazbo wrote:




Rex doesn't stand a chance with the talent they give him. When is the last time they had a legitimate threat player on offense. Yet every week his team goes out there and plays tough I give him credit for that and think he could be a really great coach in a different situation.
8nthatk
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11 years ago
I think it will be close…I won’t be surprised if the jets beat the spread, but still like the Pats (duh).
LetsRock
11 years ago
Well said Shaun. The pathetic excuse for offense is a joke. They have been outmatched in talent every week since he got hired, including both AFC title games. Rex plays the company line but he has to be pissed the hell off deep down
csiegels
11 years ago
Pick another game chaz, I'll give you a chance to get even.
chazbo
11 years ago
Craig, I really love the Colts this week. You want Cincy +3?
Chazbo
shaun341
11 years ago

Well said Shaun. The pathetic excuse for offense is a joke. They have been outmatched in talent every week since he got hired, including both AFC title games. Rex plays the company line but he has to be pissed the hell off deep down

LetsRock wrote:




Rex Ryan's most explosive offensive player Nick Folk
frankj1
11 years ago
in moments of honesty when not caught up in rooting for specific laundry (Pats) I believe Rex is an excellent coach, but effective in mostly two particular areas.

1-he'd be a top shelf defensive coordinator
2-he has an ability to appeal to the lowest common denominator as a motivator. People who overcompensate for their fears and insecurities with loud bravado respond positively to his style and he gets great effort from these chest pounders. I'm not a fan of that style nor that player, but he gets inside those guys. however...

let's face it, he has had a lot of years and hasn't cut it. not many would have been given the time the Jets have given him. the poor talent excuse is really weak, over the years he's had talent, but he is simply not an equal of many other coaches when it comes to phases of football other than D. But he is the loudest guy in the room and seems to have the owner intimidated so he stays year after underachieving year.

other issues that have stalled the team's development

He thinks he is the guy playing mind games but in fact he is obsessed with the Pats above all. He is not the genius he markets himself as, good football man, but not a member of MENSA.

The Pats and Bill B are so in his head it is laughable. They approach Pats games as their Super Bowl. They may beat the Pats once in a while, maybe even tonight (Pats aren't as good as their record), but he has lost focus on the big prize. And Belichick laughs quietly, pretends to respect Rex, while the empty barrel makes noise.

He has failed to develop young potential on the offense despite having some of the best linemen in the league. Many highly touted skill position players simply dried up as Rex oversaw failed offenses year after year. Likely he will never ever develop an outstanding quarterback.

Outmatched in talent may finally be true this year, maybe, but his teams never seem to be able to adjust when "The Thing" they like to do gets taken away from them by sharp defensive coordinators. Imagine what Rex's record would have been in a season featuring Reche Caldwell and Jabbar Gaffney as his best receivers! Adjustment is not his strong suit, but it is a strong suit of the better head coaches throughout time.

That said, as much as I enjoy it when Rex is in agony, I do believe he is a fun part of the NFL, has a little Parcells-esque personality going for him, but should be a D coordinator...and I'd take him in a heartbeat in Foxboro.



csiegels
11 years ago
Chaz ... I'll take cincinati +3. You're on! Good luck.
shaun341
11 years ago
Imagine what his record would have been if he had taped his opponents practices.


He may never develop a great QB but then again few do


Name some offensive talent he let dry up cause I can't think of one although could be overlooking one somewhere.


He is the loudest man in the room cause he eats the blame for his team playing bad and hardly ever takes any credit when they win. I don't view him as a motivator to players with loud mouths to cover their insecurities he is more of a motivator to not quite as athletic NFL players that start on his team. The guy has had an old Tomlinson, medicore at best Sanchez, and a supe bowl mvp Holmes as his best offensive players not much anyone could do with that no matter how good a line you have.


Oh an division rivalries are supposed to be played like they are your super bowl thats why they are rivalries.


I am not even a Jets fan and in fact find them very boring to even watch.
frankj1
11 years ago

Imagine what his record would have been if he had taped his opponents practices.

oh, waaaaah! taping was not illegal, but the positioning of the cameras was in dispute, you'd have to agree that is below rape by most standards. Cost Billy like half a mil and the team a FIRST ROUND pick. Oh, and one name...Mangini, who had a personal vendetta! No one else said a word cuz they were doing it too. I'd say the Pats have outperformed the Jets in the decade or so since then
Don't believe I have ever heard any expert from the league nor cbid point out a single play that the Pats gained an edge on though.


He may never develop a great QB but then again few do

I did say great and should not have gone that far, you are correct. But many teams have won the big one with less than the best, Flacco is pretty good, not great, Brady before he was great (but great coaching adjustments...get it? totally changed offensive strategy in mid-stream after Bledsoe nearly died...thanks to the Jets), Ripien, Morton, the guy on Tampa etc...Ryan doesn't win with any of those QB's. Sanchez was considered big time when drafted, played well early and regressed consistently after (coaching?)


Name some offensive talent he let dry up cause I can't think of one although could be overlooking one somewhere.

He had "highly regarded" O-talent when he got them, guys considered to have big upsides, and did not help them blossom (coaching?), which may be why you can't recall them, which is my point. I'll add some who were established and he did not get max from too. I did have to look up a few but recall all of them.

backs, some still there:
Tomlinson, you say old, COACH wanted him to be the experienced vet winners seem to have around and find a way to get winning plays from but Rex failed to do so, and can you be washed up more than one season? Heck, he sat ALOT late in big games...coach's decision.
Shonn Greene
Bilal Powell
Leon Washington
Joe McKnight
Chris Ivory
Danny Woodhead did pretty well in Foxboro (coaching?)

ends:
Keller (I loved that guy)
Braylon Edwards
Brad Smith
Santonio Holmes
Plaxico...ok, not highly regarded
Derrick Mason...also brought in for a couple of years and never integrated very well (coaching?)
David Nelson
Stephen Hill
Kerley
Cotchery
Clowney

You must admit, some coach would have gotten at least SOME of that massive list to develop. Every coach has guys that don't develop and not all due to coaching, but that is a ton of guys that Rex could not win with despite probably the best line in the NFL!



He is the loudest man in the room cause he eats the blame for his team playing bad and hardly ever takes any credit when they win.

I'm sorry, who else should take the blame? His best finishes are considered lost opportunities in Foxboro.

I don't view him as a motivator to players with loud mouths to cover their insecurities he is more of a motivator to not quite as athletic NFL players that start on his team.

We will never agree on them not being quite as athletic. That's way wrong...see list above!

The guy has had an old Tomlinson, medicore at best Sanchez, and a supe bowl mvp Holmes as his best offensive players not much anyone could do with that no matter how good a line you have.

Again, see above.


Oh an division rivalries are supposed to be played like they are your super bowl thats why they are rivalries.

Love 'em! But winners understand those games are not close to the magnitude of the Super Bowl. Again, you are making my point about Rex and how he has been suckered in by Bill B.


I am not even a Jets fan and in fact find them very boring to even watch.

shaun341 wrote:



I know you didn't reply as a Jet fan, but because you don't get what makes the Pats the model and confuse jealousy with hatred...




hey! I'm effing with ya. I love this action. GO BEARS! Loved them since Sayers.

Frank
opelmanta1900
11 years ago
I thoroughly enjoyed watching that game... might just be because it's the first game I've gotten to watch start to finish all year, but still, enjoyed it thoroughly...
8nthatk
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11 years ago
Looks like it will be 10 smokes then. At least I didn’t stay up for it…oh, and the Pats won!
LetsRock
11 years ago
Thanks for the action 8
shaun341
11 years ago

I know you didn't reply as a Jet fan, but because you don't get what makes the Pats the model and confuse jealousy with hatred...




hey! I'm effing with ya. I love this action. GO BEARS! Loved them since Sayers.

Frank

frankj1 wrote:




Hey now that list of talented players had me lmao.


I used to watch highlight videos of Sayers when I was a kid and he was unreal. Sweetness is more my age category and I never could see enough of him playing and even Emmitt Smith has said that Payton is the greatest running back ever.
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