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bs_kwaj
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11 years ago

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cacman
Herf-A-Holic

11 years ago

What's the difference between now and before???

bs_kwaj
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11 years ago

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I heard the T52s were good. Like to get some for $3.

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Philly Jack
Herf-A-Holic

11 years ago

Heard a funny one today. I don't get it Swisher is looked down by the cigar industry for their cheap flavored cigars and wraps they put all of this on the radar of the FDA. I got the from an B&M owner of a Liga Privada lounge in PA.

Puffnstuff79
Herf-A-Holic

11 years ago

So Drew and the entire management structure is staying the same. Jon says DE is selling to SS because this will take the company to the next level. Next level? I'll bet when Jon started out he was seriously thinking that he had a goal along the way that combined his vision with SS. OK!?!? Maybe it's jealousy I'm speaking from. Maybe I'm a hater. But it just doesn't make sense.

Abrignac
Herf-A-Holic

11 years ago

I say it's pure genus. Create a rabid following by convincing your customers you're different and will never sell out. Then when you reach max capacity and load your company up with debt to expand, sell out and walk away. Sure he is under contract to stay on for a period of time, but he'll eventually leave. Very few entrepreneurs like him stick around a work for the "other guys". At some point they will cite creative differences or something and he'll part ways with a boat load of cash.

Just my 2¢

kombat96
Herf-A-Holic

11 years ago

Steve saka says whaaat

Abrignac
Herf-A-Holic

11 years ago

I just went and got a smoke out the humi. I found the one and only UC Pig I've ever had. I pulled it out of one the the two last box passes. I'm going fire it up in honor of "believers" who feel betrayed.

kombat96
Herf-A-Holic

11 years ago

Abrignac wrote:

Alot of ppl hanging themselves. Tomorrow over on the one place who's name I cannot reference. There will be a fire sale on de products. ..lol

Personal not I'm friends with the de rep. I truly hope he's not effected or at least a heads up on his livelihood.

ZRX1200
Herf-A-Holic

11 years ago

#10

IDGAF.

Their product went downhill a while ago, and the never ending LE Farkas style marketing hype combined with the new to cigars fan boys who are fuggin clueless made me lose all interest in DE products about 2-3 years ago.

Oh and their prices, LMMFPWAO! !!

jetblasted
Herf-A-Holic

11 years ago

#11

A match made in heaven. Acid & Swisher Sweets.

'nuff said . . .

clickbangdead
Herf-A-Holic

11 years ago

#12

No hate here, but their prices and relative scarcity turned me away awhile ago. I can get Cubans more readily, and at a better price, not even mentioning the great Tats, MF, Pardons, etc. Just too many great smokes that I don't have to go on a freaking spirit quest to find...

clickbangdead
Herf-A-Holic

11 years ago

#13

Oh, forgot to mention that I hope this doesn't adversely affect JdN, I know they were working with DE on distro and probably some product dev too....

opelmanta1900
Herf-A-Holic

11 years ago

#14

What's the difference between now and before???

cacman wrote:

my thoughts exactly... don't have any on hand, don't remember the last time I smoked one...

the last few times I've bought an actual box it was a toss up between undercrowns and 858's... the 858's won all 3 times...

I'd rather smoke a tat or fuente just about any day of the week than support JD... I'd don't have anything against him personally, just think him and his buddies are bad for cigars in general...

QMPASH
Aficionado

11 years ago

#15

Companies like CI built up Drew Estate with clever advertising; convincing noobs that their products were something "special." They sold ghastly products like the "Nasty," "The Egg," and many cigars so overloaded with "infused" flavor they made you gag. On top of that, they were overpriced. Good luck to SS with this one. [ram27bat]

Puffnstuff79
Herf-A-Holic

11 years ago

#16

There's still some brands that I think are entirely worth the money and different enough from other cigars that I find myself desiring one over anything else at that moment. If they change for the worse they get me for a few bucks. No harm no foul.

gryphonms
Herf-A-Holic

11 years ago

#17

This is really a so what. DE fanboys will stay Due fanboys. Due haters will remain DE haters. Those in the middle will remain in the middle.

QMPASH
Aficionado

11 years ago

#18

This is really a so what. DE fanboys will stay Due fanboys. Due haters will remain DE haters. Those in the middle will remain in the middle.

gryphonms wrote:

I don't agree. Most of DE fans are usually noobs just getting their feet wet. Once they taste a really good cigar their tastes change and they drift away from DE and Acid. The rest (but not all) would be just as happy to light up anything , wrapped with anything, as long as they taste grape, chocolate or some other chemical. They will even smoke cigars with menthol or mint. 🐴

QMPASH
Aficionado

11 years ago

#19

Abrignac wrote:

I would say that you hit the nail right on the head!

danmdevries
Herf-A-Holic

11 years ago

#20

This is really a so what. DE fanboys will stay Due fanboys. Due haters will remain DE haters. Those in the middle will remain in the middle.

gryphonms wrote:

Agreed.

Ive had some excellent cigars from them. The LE/HTF stuff that I've had was excellent, definitely worthy of buying again, but not worth jumping through hoops to get. I have a box of Undercrown coronas in my humidor, and I like em enough that I hope I can get a very similar product in the future.

But if they get asset managed into oblivion, I'm not going to cry.

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