Burner02
Sunday, July 31, 2016 11:08:49 AM
LEROY, Ala. – Authorities say a suspected burglar is dead after an Alabama homeowner tied him to a tree after catching the man breaking into his home.

According to AL.com, Washington County Sheriff Richard Stringer says 68-year-old Nathanial Johnson, of Leroy, caught 31-year-old Cleveland Jones Gully breaking into the back door of his home, about 60 miles north of Mobile, on Friday just before midnight.

Stringer says Johnson chased Gully out and Gully either fell or jumped off the back steps. Johnson jumped on him, tied Gully's hands behind his back, put duct tape on his mouth and tied him to a tree with insulated electrical tape and clothesline.

Johnson then went to call 911. When sheriff's deputies arrived about 10 minutes later, Gully was dead.

Stringer says an autopsy will be performed and no charges have been filed yet against Johnson.

shaun341
Sunday, July 31, 2016 11:29:14 AM
That is one tough 68 year old or a big old p**** of a 31 year old. Serves him right though, betting it was not his first time trying to break into a house to rob it.
opelmanta1900
Sunday, July 31, 2016 12:27:55 PM
If Cleveland Jones Gully was white or Nathaniel Johnson is black I'm guessing we've heard the last of this story.... But if Cleveland Jones Gully was black and Nathaniel Johnson is white, this wil be national news tomorrow morning...
Speyside
Sunday, July 31, 2016 12:35:59 PM
Pretty much what I was thinking.
MACS
Sunday, July 31, 2016 12:56:59 PM

Pretty much what I was thinking.

Speyside wrote:

It's unfortunate that we've come to this, but so was I.

My other thought was... if this was CA, the old man would have already been charged and arrested for murder. In CA's opinion, since the man was running away he was no longer a threat. In my opinion, he was no longer a threat at that moment, but if he lived to do it again... he would have been. But that's mere speculation on my part, and would be argued that way.

Did he deserve to die for burglary? Probably not, but he paid that price for his poor decision.

TMCTLT
Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:03:54 PM

It's unfortunate that we've come to this, but so was I.

My other thought was... if this was CA, the old man would have already been charged and arrested for murder. In CA's opinion, since the man was running away he was no longer a threat. In my opinion, he was no longer a threat at that moment, but if he lived to do it again... he would have been. But that's mere speculation on my part, and would be argued that way.

Did he deserve to die for burglary? Probably not, but he paid that price for his poor decision.

MACS wrote:

Once again I concur with this ^^^^ It will be interesting to see just what killed him ( I'm guessing some sort of heart failure ) I mean hell the Ole boy was about as lenient as one could possibly be!!! Tied him up and taped his mouth so as not to have to hear the SOB....

rfenst
Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:11:21 PM

It's unfortunate that we've come to this, but so was I.

My other thought was... if this was CA, the old man would have already been charged and arrested for murder. In CA's opinion, since the man was running away he was no longer a threat. In my opinion, he was no longer a threat at that moment, but if he lived to do it again... he would have been. But that's mere speculation on my part, and would be argued that way.

Did he deserve to die for burglary? Probably not, but he paid that price for his poor decision.

MACS wrote:

Your analysis is correct if he died from the tape over his mouth as opposed to being generally sustained...

Burner02
Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:52:49 PM
Don't know the color of skin involved but from my stand point I hope no charges are brought.

DrafterX
Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:48:30 PM
if the guy died from asphyxiation there could be a problem... 😟
MACS
Sunday, July 31, 2016 4:32:22 PM

if the guy died from asphyxiation there could be a problem... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

Yeah, I'm all for defending your house; however, when you chase the perpetrator out, tie him up, gag him, and tie him to a tree... I think a line was crossed.

Subdue and detain, sure, I'm cool with that. I am not upset that a thief died, but IMO the guy took it too far.

tonygraz
Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:02:30 PM
I was once advice by Police that if someone broke in and I shot him to make sure he didn't leave or fall out of the premises and if he did drag him back in.
ZRX1200
Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:11:37 PM
ROLL TIDE MR FALCON
Burner02
Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:16:30 PM

ROLL TIDE MR FALCON

ZRX1200 wrote:

Blow yourself Beaver Duck!

ZRX1200
Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:32:08 PM
You ❤ beaver too, admit it.
Burner02
Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:08:30 PM
Beaver be good! Don't know about the ducks.
Speyside
Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:24:33 PM
Robert, why would the tape make a difference? Because it was not needed to restrain him?
MACS
Sunday, July 31, 2016 7:58:41 PM

Robert, why would the tape make a difference? Because it was not needed to restrain him?

Speyside wrote:

If he died of asphyxiation, the lawyers will say the tape wasn't necessary. IMO it wasn't. If that's what killed him... Mr. Johnson is going to be arrested and charged. Probably with manslaughter.

frankj1
Sunday, July 31, 2016 9:07:07 PM
do you think he pinched his nose too?
MACS
Sunday, July 31, 2016 9:29:15 PM

do you think he pinched his nose too?

frankj1 wrote:

No. That's why I said manslaughter. 🤣

DrafterX
Sunday, July 31, 2016 9:34:41 PM
Was prolly crying and stuff and clogged his nose up with snot.... 😟