Just Relax
9 years ago
So I helped a guy move some stuff last weekend and got an unexpected $20. I told myself I'm going to splurge and buy a Padron Anny. I go into the B&M tonight and look through the options of Padrons and walk out with 3 cheaper cigars instead.

I really enjoy the Padron 2000, 5000 etc. I can also buy 2 or 3 of these for the price of the anny's.

Are they really that much better? I'm starting to develop the ability to pick up on flavors but I don't want to waste a good cigar if I'm not able to appreciate it yet.

If so they are better, which "upgrade" should be my first.

Thanks for the advice in advance.
Abrignac
9 years ago
All cigars taste pretty much the same. Why waste your money. Get Gurkhas for 97% off. Thank me later.
Speyside
9 years ago
The only way you will know is to try one.
shaun341
9 years ago
I like the 64s a lot more then the x000 series but I don't think I would ever pay $20 for one, should be able to find them a lot cheaper then that. Now the 26s are in that range and I don't feel there is a big enough difference in them and the 64s to justify paying for the 26s. Speyside is right though everyone's taste is different so only you can be the judge of it is worth it for you.
sd72
9 years ago
Pick your favorite size and buy it in 1926, and 1964. Maduro and natural, and then all the 44,45, 46, 80, 85, and both 50s.
sd72
9 years ago
And a millennium
opelmanta1900
9 years ago
I've smoked a lot of the x000 line, never tried one I liked... then a few weeks ago smoked one of the 64 maduro corona's... got it for $14 at the local Indian Casino... I'd rather pay $14 for one of those than $3 or $4 each for any number of the x000's... just my opinion, but it's mine, which makes it better than yours...
tamapatom
9 years ago
Must try the Anni 64. Have done it and will never go back to the x000 series - an old standby till then.
Abrignac
9 years ago
Pardon grows their own tobacco in Nicaragua. You won't find an abundance of information regarding the blend. But, if memory serves me correctly the tobaccos in the x000 line is aged 3 years. The 1926 for a minimum of 5. Not sure about the 1964.

As far as what tastes better or if they are worth it will depend on ones pallet at the time it's smoked. Hence my earlier answer.
DrMaddVibe
9 years ago

So I helped a guy move some stuff last weekend and got an unexpected $20. I told myself I'm going to splurge and buy a Padron Anny. I go into the B&M tonight and look through the options of Padrons and walk out with 3 cheaper cigars instead.

I really enjoy the Padron 2000, 5000 etc. I can also buy 2 or 3 of these for the price of the anny's.

Are they really that much better? I'm starting to develop the ability to pick up on flavors but I don't want to waste a good cigar if I'm not able to appreciate it yet.

If so they are better, which "upgrade" should be my first.

Thanks for the advice in advance.

Just Relax wrote:




Use the analogy of women in place of cigars.

Can you see where this is going? No? You're on your own and you're in for the worst ride of your life.

Yes? Then you fully understand what you asked and you will now go for the 64 Diplomatico.

Why go out with a Thelma from Scooby Doo when you can kick boots with a Raquel Welch?
Just Relax
9 years ago
Sounds good. Pick up a couple 64s. Smoke one and trade the other for a gurk sampler. See if they all taste the same.

Makes sense thanks for the suggestions
Abrignac
9 years ago
Pardon grows their own tobacco in Nicaragua. You won't find an abundance of information regarding the blend. But, if memory serves me correctly the tobaccos in the x000 line is aged 3 years. The 1926 for a minimum of 5. Not sure about the 1964.

As far as what tastes better or if they are worth it will depend on ones pallet at the time it's smoked. Hence my earlier answer.
gummy jones
9 years ago
personally i like 26s better than 64s although many disagree, especially given the price difference

a 64 is a really good cigar every time

definitely treat yourself
Whistlebritches
9 years ago
Just remember that all Padron's are one dimensional........in a good way.Of all the one dimensional cigars I have smoked the Padron 64 maduro(PAM 64) is by far the best.I like the smaller ring gauges better but that is a matter of taste.The X000 series in maduro is also very good with a little age on it........but still very one dimensional.
danmdevries
9 years ago
^ well done. Was trying to explain it.

I'm not a big Padron fan. The 26 and 64 are great, but not my thing. Padrons all taste like Padrons to me, with the anniversary lines being a tastier version.

If I'm dropping 20 at a shpo, I'll usually grab a God of Fire. My local shpo owner loves em, carries most, and they are priced at or below what I see online (most of their cigars are double or more. Pretty much everything is 10-15, with GOF 20-25)
Just Relax
9 years ago

Just remember that all Padron's are one dimensional........in a good way.Of all the one dimensional cigars I have smoked the Padron 64 maduro(PAM 64) is by far the best.I like the smaller ring gauges better but that is a matter of taste.The X000 series in maduro is also very good with a little age on it........but still very one dimensional.

Whistlebritches wrote:



I agree with this. From light to nub it is a very consistent smoke. I will be picking up a 64.
Just Relax
9 years ago

Use the analogy of women in place of cigars.

Can you see where this is going? No? You're on your own and you're in for the worst ride of your life.

Yes? Then you fully understand what you asked and you will now go for the 64 Diplomatico.

Why go out with a Thelma from Scooby Doo when you can kick boots with a Raquel Welch?

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Very good analogy. I see were it's going.
Just Relax
9 years ago

^ well done. Was trying to explain it.

I'm not a big Padron fan. The 26 and 64 are great, but not my thing. Padrons all taste like Padrons to me, with the anniversary lines being a tastier version.

If I'm dropping 20 at a shpo, I'll usually grab a God of Fire. My local shpo owner loves em, carries most, and they are priced at or below what I see online (most of their cigars are double or more. Pretty much everything is 10-15, with GOF 20-25)

danmdevries wrote:



After a few days on here I'm going to have to learn more about Fuente. So much to learn...
Abrignac
9 years ago

After a few days on here I'm going to have to learn more about Fuente. So much to learn...

Just Relax wrote:



You'll fine that Fuentes are by and large one of the most consistent brands on the market. They grow most of their own tobacco, process it then roll it. I don't I've ever hear of anyone having a burn issue with one. They age their cigars before they sell them etc. They also manufacture the Astons and the Diamond Crowns.

Pepin is another top maker. In addition to their own brands they manufacture the Tatuaje cigars and a few others. You'll find a bit more range with Pepin made cigars than with the Fuente's.

Bookmark halfwheel.com lots of good information there.
Abrignac
9 years ago
Seek out info regarding the different growing regions. Each has its own nuances. Primings from different areas on the same plant produce vastly different tobaccos as well. Different vitolas (sizes) within the same line will have different flavor profiles and even burn differently because different types of tobaccos burn differently and each size will have different blend ratios. Different wrappers can have a profound effect on the taste of a blend.

On way to experience this is to compare the Fuente's 8-5-8's. But, you'll have probably have to wait a month or so to do it properly. Fuente produces a vitola called an 8-5-8. For the most part, the blend is the same it's the wrappers that vary. Throughout the year it can be found with a natural wrapper and a maduro wrapper. In more limited quantities it can be found with a candela wrapper. Around the holidays the Sungrowns are released. Then every few years they release a limited quantity of rosado wrapped cigars. You'll find a world of difference in taste yet the blend is the same.
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