tailgater
8 years ago
Lost in all this is the original intent of the kneeling.

Kaepernick has been silent. So much for his crusade.

Those who knelt for the first time last week didn't know why.

Those who stood did so arm and arm. A sign of solidarity. Which is was: Solidarity against Trump's inappropriate tweet.

But the kneeling wasn't supposed to be about solidarity. Or anti-White House.

It was supposed to be about cop-on-black killings.

And for those who think that it's not disrespectful? That it isn't Anti-America ??
Listen to the man himself when he started this posturing:
"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color."

Kaepernick himself states very clearly that standing up "shows pride".
He's doing the opposite. Which is to say he has no pride in America.

Not my words.
His.

So stop the lunacy.
If you hate America that's your right.
But stop pretending it's anything but what it is.



streetrod
8 years ago
TG:
Could not agree more. However I will go 1 step further. If you really hate America, do all the people that love our country a favor and get the Fug out and go to a country that you will like. I'm not talking to the people that have issue with America, I'm talking to the ones that actually hate this great country of ours.
victor809
8 years ago
tail in Aug...

"Those guys marching with nazi and kkk symbols and chanting english translations of old nazi phrases say they're protesting for free speech and because they love the history of statues. We should believe them"

tail in sept

"I know exactly whether these NFL protesters even know what they are protesting".
tailgater
8 years ago

tail in Aug...

"Those guys marching with nazi and kkk symbols and chanting english translations of old nazi phrases say they're protesting for free speech and because they love the history of statues. We should believe them"

tail in sept

"I know exactly whether these NFL protesters even know what they are protesting".

victor809 wrote:



Yeah.
I guess I shouldn't believe Colin Kaepernick's own words.

You probably think he's too dumb to know better because he's black.
But you would then add him to your friend count.




tailgater
8 years ago

TG:
Could not agree more. However I will go 1 step further. If you really hate America, do all the people that love our country a favor and get the Fug out and go to a country that you will like. I'm not talking to the people that have issue with America, I'm talking to the ones that actually hate this great country of ours.

streetrod wrote:




Too bad the Pats don't suck as bad as the Giants. That would make my decision to boycott much easier!

Seriously, though. I'm gonna smoke a great cigar on Sunday.
And I'll think of my pal Streetrod.
Not because you're dreamy.
But because you sent it to me.

victor809
8 years ago

Yeah.
I guess I shouldn't believe Colin Kaepernick's own words.

You probably think he's too dumb to know better because he's black.
But you would then add him to your friend count.




tailgater wrote:




Right over your head. Maybe if you jump you can catch it.

How many players other than CK did you say in your post were not doing it because of police violence against blacks?
RMAN4443
8 years ago

Too bad the Pats don't suck as bad as the Giants. That would make my decision to boycott much easier!

Seriously, though. I'm gonna smoke a great cigar on Sunday.
And I'll think of my pal Streetrod.
Not because you're dreamy.
But because you sent it to me.

tailgater wrote:


Joe,you going to Pats vs. Panthers Sunday???
I'll be there.......same place,near the SP horse corral.....parking lot P-10,Area 51
tailgater
8 years ago
Yup.
Got your number.
We're usually in P10 but sometimes P11.


RMAN4443
8 years ago

Yup.
Got your number.
We're usually in P10 but sometimes P11.


tailgater wrote:


Cool,maybe I'll see you there.........don't forget to keep your phone charged......lol🍺
tailgater
8 years ago
I have a new phone.
Inspired by Franks flip phone.

Still working on details.
Might be on stadium side instead of P10.
I'll let you know.
MojoFilter
8 years ago

NFL national anthem flap sees Steelers coach Mike Tomlin rap Alejandro Villanueva

For Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin, being “respectful of our football team” trumped the right of Steelers offensive tackle Alejandro Villanueva to show respect for the national anthem.

A former Army Ranger, Villanueva was the only Steeler to break from the team's orders and come out of the tunnel Sunday in Chicago to stand for "The Star-Spangled Banner."

Speaking after his team's 23-17 loss to the Bears, Tomlin appeared to take a swipe at the Bronze Star recipient's decision.

“Like I said, I was looking for 100 percent participation, we were gonna be respectful of our football team,” Tomlin said.

Tomlin told the media that, prior to kickoff Sunday, the Steelers held a team meeting and decided, though not unanimously, to not come out of the locker room for the national anthem. Tomlin added the intent was to have his team focus on the game and not President Trump’s comments blasting players who chose to protest during the playing of "The Star-Spangled Banner."

“Many of them felt like something needed to be done. I asked those guys to discuss it and whatever they discussed that we have 100 percent participation or we do nothing,” Tomlin said after the game. “They discussed it for an appropriate length of time and they couldn’t come to an understanding, so they chose to remove themselves from it. They were not going to be disrespectful in the anthem so they chose not to participate, but at the same time many of them were not going to accept the words of the president.”

Villanueva, who served three tours in Afghanistan, decided to stand his ground instead and placed his hand over his heart while the anthem played.

“We’re not politicians. We’re coaches and professional athletes," Tomlin said Sunday. "If those of us or individuals choose to participate in politics in some way I’m going to be supportive of that. But when we come out of locker rooms, we come out of locker rooms to play football games."

There appeared to be some confusion in the Steelers locker room after Villanueva came out of the tunnel for the anthem.

Offensive tackle Chris Hubbard told Penn Live that the players, by a slim majority, voted in favor of staying off the field instead of standing on the sideline holding hands.

We thought we were all in attention with the same agreement, obviously," linebacker James Harrison told the website. "But, I guess we weren't."

Hubbard, however, said everyone in the locker room accepted that Villanueva would be exempt from the team's decision.

"Al was cool with it, with whatever we went through. He was on board. That's Al, man," Hubbard said. "He's a good guy."

Villanueva has previously spoken out about former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick’s decision to sit and kneel during the national anthem, saying his actions may “send the wrong message.”

“I don’t know if the most effective way is to sit down during the national anthem with a country that’s providing you freedom, providing you $16 million a year...when there are black minorities that are dying in Iraq and Afghanistan for less than $20,000 a year," Villanueva told ESPN in 2016.

He added: “I will be the first one to hold hands with Colin Kaepernick and do something about the way minorities are being treated in the United States, the injustice that is happening with police brutality, the justice system, inequalities in pay. You can’t do it by looking away from the people that are trying to protect our freedom and our country.”

Broncos defensive end Derek Wolfe also told ESPN he would be standing during the national anthem Sunday because he wanted to be "paying tribute to the men and women who have given their lives for our freedom."

"I stand because I respect the men who died in real battle so I have the freedom to battle on the field...but everyone these days likes to find a reason to protest and that’s their right," Wolfe told ESPN, according to The Washington Post.

Burner02 wrote:



From an article dated September 12, 2016

Every member of the Pittsburgh Steelers stood for Monday night's National Anthem, and Alejandro Villanueva was a big reason why. 
According to ESPN's Monday Night Football broadcast team, Steelers coach Mike Tomlin that said part of the reason why every member of the team would stand for the National Anthem was that they wanted to honor Villanueva, a military veteran that received the Bronze Star after serving three tours of duty in Afghanistan. 
"I know all of our players will be standing out of respect for their teammate, Alejandro Villanueva," Tomlin said. 


What a difference a year makes.
TMCTLT
8 years ago
^^^

Now now...NO facts allowed here.




And this just in :

Let's teach them young and they'll be disrespectful for life!!! WTG Mom 🤦


http://www.dailywire.com/news/21693/ 6-year-old-takes-knee-during-pledge-allegiance-hank-berrien?utm_source=dwemail&utm_medium=email&utm_content=092917-news&utm_campaign=position1
tailgater
8 years ago

Cool,maybe I'll see you there.........don't forget to keep your phone charged......lol🍺

RMAN4443 wrote:



Looks like I'll be in a different lot.
La famglia de tailgater is going to be mostly all counted for and I'll be with them on the stadium side.

Ewok126
8 years ago

^^^

Now now...NO facts allowed here.




And this just in :

Let's teach them young and they'll be disrespectful for life!!! WTG Mom 🤦


http://www.dailywire.com/news/21693/ 6-year-old-takes-knee-during-pledge-allegiance-hank-berrien?utm_source=dwemail&utm_medium=email&utm_content=092917-news&utm_campaign=position1

TMCTLT wrote:




This turns my stomach, I think it is hilarious that people want to show disrespect but yet demand respect for the disrespect shown. But I will just revert to the sarcasm that I used when I seen my wife doing this sort of thing with my son.

To MOM: You need to pop your titty out the boys mouth. If not your son will grow up to be a p*ssy wiped version of a Man and will never be accepted in the majority of Men or most of society. It is just how society works, is it right I don't know but it is how it is, but I do know that because that is how the majority is you are hampering the success of the child's future. Most real women don't want no Sissy boy. There's a crisis of coddling in American families as it stands. Most real women wont deal with a Coddled sissy boy well, unless shes like the mom and loves DRAMA and no man I know wants that crap in his life. Just my opinion which means nothing. I think mom should have told him, Welcome to the real world. You made your stand now deal with the consequences.

I honestly feel this is why we have allot of the issues today. I have no respect for those that don't show respect. I have no respect for Men with no work ethic. I have no respect for men that does not stand for what is right even if it means swallowing some pride to do it. We now live in the "Its all about ME" world and I feel this is a good example of why. My brother is of this generation, and I will say I have no respect for him as a man because he will shit on people to move ahead. He will leave the weak behind to his gain. He will take from those that are weak with out thinking twice. To me that's not a Man nor what a Man should be. My mother cries when we talk about the issues with my brother and the kind of man he has become. She cant figure out where he got this "Its all about Me" concept because this was not something that he was taught. I personally think it came from the influence of others from that generation.

The town needs an Enema! That's all I am going to say about that. :-"
frankj1
8 years ago

I have a new phone.
Inspired by Franks flip phone.

Still working on details.
Might be on stadium side instead of P10.
I'll let you know.

tailgater wrote:


it has a secret keyboard
Markemiles
8 years ago
Trump can f**** off. This is none of his business. He should be thinking of the people in Puerto Rico and the USVI and get his inept cabinet members off their butt.
DrafterX
SteveS
8 years ago

Trump can f**** off. This is none of his business. He should be thinking of the people in Puerto Rico and the USVI and get his inept cabinet members off their butt.

Markemiles wrote:



And, rather than focus on what the president is doing, you're contributing time and money to Puerto Rican relief efforts, right ???
DrafterX
8 years ago
Trump can't have an opinion..?? 😕
Speyside
8 years ago
I would suspend the 6 year old for a day every time he kneeled during the pledge of allegiance. This would upset the snivelers, but who cares. If you don't like living here go somewhere else.
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