https://www.wsj.com/articles/teamsters-tell-ups-no-drones-or-driverless-trucks-1516795200

So they want to control wages, benefits, pensions, raises, working conditions, vacations, etc.

And now they want to limit the ability for technology to improve efficiency.

Can't see how that's bad. Nope not at all. They sure do want to help America. Yup. Yessiree bob. by golly.

tailgater wrote:

What about the illegal aliens truckers?

DrMaddVibe wrote:

I have no problems with collective bargaining and workers trying to protect their interests. When the government steps in to do it for them is where I have an issue most of the time. Let the coal workers bargain for the best they can get, but don't slap a 30% tariff on solar to help them out. To me there is a difference.

Phil222 wrote:

There isn't a fix for the coal industry. Automation and cheaper & cleaner energy (i.e. natural gas) killed it off. The coal industry hit it's high water mark in the 40's. It is never coming back regardless of what politicians may say or promise.

Buckwheat wrote:

Workers looking out for their own well-being...I'm appalled. Corporate would never try to screw these guys over...

Phil222 wrote:

Yes, saving America by getting paid to make everything cost more.

The same thing as the dockworkers in our ports, automation is a fact of life and it make life better. Anyone unskilled and performing manual work is subject to having their job automated. There is less and less room in modern society for ditch diggers and truck swampers. This also highlights the fallacy of importing unskilled workers to displace our own underemployed and marginal workers.

Gene363 wrote:

Let's not forget about those who suck at the government teet for their whole lives.

banderl wrote:

I don't disagree. I just don't have a problem with employees collectively negotiating. I actually prefer it over the minimum wage.

Phil222 wrote:

I have a deep skepticism for collective negotiation. Mainly because intuitively identify a problem when all corporate suppliers of a good or service decide to collectively set a price for that good or service.

It seems odd to me that we wouldn't have the same skepticism if all providers of a labor do the same thing.

victor809 wrote:

I may not be following what you're stating here. Are you saying that price-fixing and collective bargaining are the same thing?

Phil222 wrote:

I think they have enough similarities that one should be wary about applying the label "evil" to one and "good" to the other.

We don't allow corporations to have a monopoly....
We don't allow corporations to set prices across an industry...

A union can ultimately act as a monopoly on labor.
Similarly, if a union is "collectively bargaining" they are setting the price for all providers of labor.

I don't necessarily feel comfortable identifying unions as a good thing because much of what they do, which the workers in the union consider good for them, is similar to what we won't allow a corporation to do (which a shareholder would consider good for them).

victor809 wrote: