You've seen Victors nuts? They were so impressive you are obsessed with them? Joe, there are psychiatrists who could help you. Victor, send Joe a picture of you nuts. He really needs it.

Speyside wrote:

.One of my clients makes a generic competitor to the epipen.... Mylan isn't a monopoly....

victor809 wrote:

My post wasn't to ban negotiations.
I clearly stated that their stance on forbidding new technology is backwards and part of the reason they've outlived their useful purpose by almost a century now.

And your anti-corporation stance is duly noted.

tailgater wrote:

In the first sentence of your original post, it sounded as if you didn’t like the fact that workers wanted to negotiate for things like wages, benefits, pensions, raises, working conditions, vacations, etc. Specifically, the word “control” is what prompted my post. If that is not what you meant to convey then I apologize for my poor reading comprehension skills. I often can’t even decipher my own posts, so forgive me if I fail to accurately interpret many of yours.

I also wouldn’t consider myself to be “anti-corporation.” I get where you’re coming from with that statement, but pro-worker or pro-small business would be a more accurate description. I definitely understand the job creating and economic benefits that corporations bring to the table. I’m not looking to start sewing my own clothes out of hemp or anything like that.

However, I do get upset when I see certain businesses taking advantage of the things that allowed them to be successful in the first place (e.g. employees, the government, the American people). I’m ultimately just hoping to see Americans with equal representation at the negotiating table, whether that be employment related, or when it’s time for us to write up our new tax-bill.

And I still do not see the problem with these guys negotiating to keep their jobs. Did you expect them to welcome the unemployment line with open arms? Maybe even speed up the process? How would you welcome your demise?

Phil222 wrote:

Actually, if I'm being honest you were more right than wrong. I do dislike when unions disrupt the supply/demand cycle that defines capitalism at its most basic level.

But why do you feel that every negotiation has to have "equal representation"?
It's not supposed to be equal.
If there are 10 people trying for 1 job, then the employer has the advantage.
If there are 10 jobs but only 1 qualified candidate, then that person has the edge.
Not sure why that's a bad thing.

tailgater wrote:

LOL. The EpiPen, manufactured by King, a subsidiary of Pfizer, and marketed by Mylan, has dominated the market with the help of the guberment you idiot. There's only one other manufacturer - Adrenaclick. Many insurance companies will only cover Mylan's product. If the insurance companies can dictate to doctors what drugs patients can be prescribed, then there should be single point of purchase (the government) which uses its buying power to force the pharma companies to sell at a lower price. Instead the guberment and insurance companies incentivize price gouging by Big Pharma. Drugs manufactured in the US should not cost more to US citizens than it does to other Countries. Plain and simple.

cacman wrote:

In 2015 Mylan had about $1.5B in sales of EpiPens and those sales accounted for 40% of Mylan's profit.[26] Mylan had maintained about a 90% market share since it had acquired the product, and had continually raised the price of EpiPens starting in 2009: in 2009, the wholesale price of two EpiPens was about $100; by July 2013, the price was about $265; in May 2015, it was around $461; and in May 2016, the price rose again to around $609,[25] around a 500% jump from the price in 2009.[75] The cost of the drug and device to Mylan as of 2016 was about $35.[28] In the summer of 2016, as parents prepared to send their children back to school and went to pharmacies to get new EpiPens, people began to express outrage at the cost of the EpiPen and Mylan was widely and harshly criticized.[76][77] In September 2016, the New York State Attorney General began an investigation into Mylan's EpiPen4Schools program in New York to determine if the program's contracts violated antitrust law[78] and the West Virginia State Attorney General opened an investigation into whether Mylan had given the state the correct discount under the Medicaid Drug Rebate Program and subpoenaed the company when it refused to provide the documentation the state requested.[79] In October 2016, Mylan announced a $465M settlement with the US Department of Justice over rebates paid by Mylan to states under the Medicaid Drug Rebate Program.[80]

As of 2015, the following epinephrine autoinjectors were available in various parts of Europe: Adrenalina WZF, Adrenaline (epinephrine) 1 in 1000 solution for injection BP auto-injector, Altellus, Anapen, Emerade, EpiPen, Fastjekt, FastPen, and Jext.[83] As of 2014, three branded products were available in the US: Adrenaclick, Auvi-Q, and EpiPen,[5] but as of October 2015 Auvi-Q was no longer available.[72] They state it will be available again in February 2017.[84] As of 2005, epinephrine autoinjectors were not available in most of the developing world.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epinephrine_autoinjector 

When a Navy veteran who served 2 tours on Battleship 829, and was there during the Cuban Missile Crisis has to chose between buying his medications or buying food, there is a BIG problem.

I'm in a union, and I do not like it. They take my money, and provide me with little to no benefit for it. We have been "imposed upon" twice in my 10 years in it (where they can't reach an agreement, go to impasse, and the county just dictates what we'll get).

I can choose to tell them to suck eggs... but if I do, I have no legal protection if I need it.

MACS wrote:

careful MACS...popo unions are among the strongest in the nation...there's a Peace Officer's Bill of Rights that is patterned after the national LEOBR and codified into CA law...

delta1 wrote:

Do you think that you would have better pay and benefits if you weren't in a union?

Phil222 wrote:

Victor is a right wing nut job.

tailgater wrote: