delta1
Tuesday, February 12, 2019 6:22:44 PM
true...it has been shown that electrical power-lines and related equipment have been the source of sparks that ignited many of the largest fires in the past few years....PGE is declaring bankruptcy as a defense to the civil suits being planned because the deadly Camp Fire has been attributed to sparks from their equipment...

but the speed and size of the fire was deemed to be exacerbated by climate change drought conditions that dried out huge swaths of forest in the area...

Ewok126
Tuesday, February 12, 2019 6:40:35 PM
Sounds like it is time to burn more tires. 🌫
deadeyedick
Tuesday, February 12, 2019 6:42:32 PM

for one thing, climate change has brought more severe and more frequent hurricanes spread over a wider area...death toll and monetary damages continue to rise...

another thing...here on the left coast, we've had more frequent, larger and more deadly wild fires...and there is now a year round "fire season"...attributed to climate change ...

which has been blamed for more frequent and longer lasting droughts, followed by wild-fires, followed by mud slides...

delta1 wrote:

From a study cited in the Washington Post:

"Global warming is a real issue, but the claims of ever worse hurricanes are wrong.

The UN Climate Panel found in its latest report that hurricanes (aka tropical cyclones) haven’t increased: “Current datasets indicate no significant observed trends in global tropical cyclone frequency over the past century.”

For the United States, the trend of all land-falling hurricanes has been falling since 1900, as has that of major hurricanes. In the 51 years from 1915, Florida and the Atlantic coast were hit by 19 major hurricanes. In the 51 years to 2016, just seven. In the last 11 years, only two hurricanes greater than category 3 hit the continental USA — a record low since 1900. From 1915 to 1926, 12 hit.

We’re not seeing an increase of hurricanes. Yes, hurricane costs keep escalating. But this is not due to climate change. Rather, more people with more wealth live in harm’s way."

Speyside
Tuesday, February 12, 2019 6:53:04 PM
Hurricane quantity has not increased. Hurricane severity has increased.
DrafterX
Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:34:24 AM
Maybe we're just returning to normal after a hundred years of mild... 😟
opelmanta1900
Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:21:11 AM
Gentleman, if you will indulge me, I do believe I can get us all in on the ground floor investment of the power source of the future...

Hamsters... That's right, hamsters...

Cute and cuddly playmate for the kids, sure... But twenty years from now, hamsters will be powering everything from the lights in your house to the engine in your car...

With minimal nutritional needs and an insatiable appetite for reproduction matched only by the Jack rabbit, hamsters are a perfect, near self-sustaining source of universal power... And they burn twice as clean as coal...

DrafterX
Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:45:07 AM
Why not mate the jack rabbit with the hamsters..?? 😟
opelmanta1900
Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:50:20 AM
We tried.... We got those hybrids halfway into the furnace and they just jumped right off the shovel, tore up and down the hallways half-aflame... It was a disaster but we learned from it...
DrafterX
Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:52:46 AM
Some would call that progress... 😟
tailgater
Wednesday, February 13, 2019 12:00:32 PM

I wouldn't attribute all of that to climate change.

A large amount also has to do with human changes to the local environment (tree removal, or growing of different species which dont have the same ability to fight erosion, movement of water from one location to another for irrigation, building building and more building)...

It's still human caused... And can be solved by getting rid of people, but not specifically all related to global climate.

victor809 wrote:

I agree with victor.

(I just wanted to feel dirty, too.)

deadeyedick
Wednesday, February 13, 2019 12:28:48 PM

Hurricane quantity has not increased. Hurricane severity has increased.

Speyside wrote:

Most studies refute your statement. This is not to say severity will not increase in the future but the peer-reviewed studies to date are inconclusive:

"Some recent scientific articles have reported a large increase in tropical cyclone energy, numbers, and wind-speeds in some regions during the last few decades in association with warmer sea surface temperatures. Other studies report that changes in observational techniques and instrumentation are responsible for these increases.

1. Though there is evidence both for and against the existence of a detectable anthropogenic signal in the tropical cyclone climate record to date, no firm conclusion can be made on this point.

2. No individual tropical cyclone can be directly attributed to climate change.

3. The recent increase in societal impact from tropical cyclones has largely been caused by rising concentrations of population and infrastructure in coastal regions.

4. Tropical cyclone wind-speed monitoring has changed dramatically over the last few decades, leading to difficulties in determining accurate trends.

5. There is an observed multi-decadal variability of tropical cyclones in some regions whose causes, whether natural, anthropogenic or a combination, are currently being debated. This variability makes detecting any long-term trends in tropical cyclone activity difficult.

6. It is likely that some increase in tropical cyclone peak wind-speed and rainfall will occur if the climate continues to warm. Model studies and theory project a 3-5% increase in wind-speed per degree Celsius increase of tropical sea surface temperatures.

7. There is an inconsistency between the small changes in wind-speed projected by theory and modeling versus large changes reported by some observational studies.

8. Although recent climate model simulations project a decrease or no change in global tropical cyclone numbers in a warmer climate, there is low confidence in this projection. In addition, it is unknown how tropical cyclone tracks or areas of impact will change in the future.

9. Large regional variations exist in methods used to monitor tropical cyclones. Also, most regions have no measurements by instrumented aircraft. These significant limitations will continue to make detection of trends difficult.

10. If the projected rise in sea level due to global warming occurs, then the vulnerability to tropical cyclone storm surge flooding would increase."

delta1
Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:28:09 PM
^ that article was from 2006...

here's a more recent study, that draws different conclusions:

https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes/ 

RMAN4443
Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:33:13 PM

Gentleman, if you will indulge me, I do believe I can get us all in on the ground floor investment of the power source of the future...

Hamsters... That's right, hamsters...

Cute and cuddly playmate for the kids, sure... But twenty years from now, hamsters will be powering everything from the lights in your house to the engine in your car...

With minimal nutritional needs and an insatiable appetite for reproduction matched only by the Jack rabbit, hamsters are a perfect, near self-sustaining source of universal power... And they burn twice as clean as coal...

opelmanta1900 wrote:

What about hamster farts?...they may be smaller than cows, but it sounds like there's going to more of them...

are we going to need to regulate the Hamster Farts?:-k 😣

Speyside
Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:45:14 PM
Plenty of studies today show an increase in hurricane severity.
DrafterX
Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:59:50 PM
But we don't have a good recorded history to verify that... 😟
dstieger
Wednesday, February 13, 2019 4:03:54 PM
All the more reason to argue about it
DrafterX
Wednesday, February 13, 2019 4:06:37 PM
I'll show yo momma hurricane severity..!! 😠
opelmanta1900
Wednesday, February 13, 2019 4:09:32 PM
I'll tell you right now, you throw 2 or 3 million hamsters into a hurricane, the weight of the hamsters alone is enough to stop that thing dead in its tracks... Tornadoes too... You give em 5, maybe 6 minutes and they'll have that thing spinning in the total opposite direction...
DrafterX
Wednesday, February 13, 2019 4:10:31 PM
Screw the hamsters..!! 😠
opelmanta1900
Wednesday, February 13, 2019 4:14:55 PM
No way man... They're the future... 🤐