Poll Question: Should he be charged criminally? (Poll is closed)
MACS
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6 years ago
Dude cracks another dude in the head with his own helmet.

Abrignac
6 years ago
Ban for life. Waaay to far over the top.

2011 Louisiana Laws
Revised Statutes
TITLE 14 — Criminal law
RS 14:34 — Aggravated battery

Universal Citation: LA Rev Stat § 14:34
§34. Aggravated battery

Aggravated battery is a battery committed with a dangerous weapon.

Whoever commits an aggravated battery shall be fined not more than five thousand dollars, imprisoned with or without hard labor for not more than ten years, or both.

Acts 1978, No. 394, §1. Amended by Acts 1980, No. 708, §1.
MACS
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6 years ago

Ban for life. Waaay to far over the top.

Abrignac wrote:



Way too harsh. I think taking a seat for the rest of the season is fine... but I also think he should be charged, criminally, with battery.
frankj1
6 years ago

Way too harsh. I think taking a seat for the rest of the season is fine... but I also think he should be charged, criminally, with battery.

MACS wrote:


careful of the precedent being set...

it would mean the end of hockey.
for now, they get 5 minutes in the penalty box.
Abrignac
6 years ago
We will have to agree to disagree. As far as I’m concerned this this worse that betting on your own team. The gate has been opened. If he’s not dealt with harshly it will enable even worse acts of violence. Screw it though. I really don’t GAF. I turned the NFL out tears ago.
opelmanta1900
6 years ago

careful of the precedent being set...

it would mean the end of hockey.
for now, they get 5 minutes in the penalty box.

frankj1 wrote:


Wasn't there a hockey player who hit another player over the head with a stick and ended up being charged with assault?
delta1
6 years ago

We will have to agree to disagree. As far as I’m concerned this this worse that betting on your own team. The gate has been opened. If he’s not dealt with harshly it will enable even worse acts of violence. Screw it though. I really don’t GAF. I turned the NFL out tears ago.

Abrignac wrote:




why you cryin?
Abrignac
6 years ago

Wasn't there a hockey player who hit another player over the head with a stick and ended up being charged with assault?

opelmanta1900 wrote:




IIRC it was Ron Hexstall (sp?)

That was a close one. Glad I checked the auto check before I sent this. It changed sp? to dp?
Abrignac
6 years ago

why you cryin?

delta1 wrote:



Who’s crying? My Tigers are in the drivers seat. No other sport interests me at the moment.
delta1
6 years ago

Wasn't there a hockey player who hit another player over the head with a stick and ended up being charged with assault?

opelmanta1900 wrote:



several: Todd Bertuzzi (sucker punch and body slam from behind); Marty McSorley (striking opponent in head with hockey stick); Dino Cicarelli,( clubbed opponent in head with stick)...

all charged criminally and found guilty of battery.
Abrignac
6 years ago

several: Todd Bertuzzi (sucker punch and body slam from behind); Marty McSorley (striking with hockey stick); Dino Cicarelli,( clubbed opponent with stick)...

all charged criminally and found guilty of battery.

delta1 wrote:



Was watching the game when McSorley did it. IIRC be flattened an enforcer from another team who had targeted one of McSorley’s teammates.

Dude was laid out flat on his bad as cold as the ice he was laying on.

Yep it was when McSorley cracked Brashear‘s skull with the the hockey stick. They had fought many times on the ice that night before it happened. Seams McSorely grew tired of him targeting his teammates.

File that in the play stupid games, when stupid prizes category.
MACS
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6 years ago
Frank... he swung that helmet. If it had landed flush on Mason's skull, he could have killed him. At a minimum it could have caused serious bodily harm.

Yes, I know... "If ifs and buts were candy and nuts...", but in all seriousness... that's not part of football.

Fighting is part of hockey... with fists, not with weapons.
frankj1
6 years ago

Wasn't there a hockey player who hit another player over the head with a stick and ended up being charged with assault?

opelmanta1900 wrote:


pretty sure he was never charged but in the late 60's or early 70's either Wayne Maki or Chico Maki (Blackhawks?) hit Bruin's enforcer (and pretty good defenseman) Teddy Green over the head with his stick.

Green eventually played again, it was big thing in Boston, but was not close to the player he had been.

Epilogue: Green died about a week ago. Will always be a favorite amongst FOG Bruins' fans.
Abrignac
6 years ago

Frank... he swung that helmet. If it had landed flush on Mason's skull, he could have killed him. At a minimum it could have caused serious bodily harm.

Yes, I know... "If ifs and buts were candy and nuts...", but in all seriousness... that's not part of football.

Fighting is part of hockey... with fists, not with weapons.

MACS wrote:



Exactly, a few punches many of which never land vs swinging and hitting someone vs cracking a dude over the skull with a helmet is oceans apart.
frankj1
6 years ago

Frank... he swung that helmet. If it had landed flush on Mason's skull, he could have killed him. At a minimum it could have caused serious bodily harm.

Yes, I know... "If ifs and buts were candy and nuts...", but in all seriousness... that's not part of football.

Fighting is part of hockey... with fists, not with weapons.

MACS wrote:


I get it.
Didn't see it live, saw the short clips today. Pretty sick.
frankj1
6 years ago

Exactly, a few punches many of which never land vs swinging and hitting someone vs cracking a dude over the skull with a helmet is oceans apart.

Abrignac wrote:


should have added that when Teddy Green came back he wore a helmet...it helped usher in the mandatory use of helmets that annoyed players and fans at the time.
He was one tough mofo...
ZRX1200
6 years ago
Garret didn’t know the ball was out because of where his head was positioned while taking Rudolph to the ground.

Mason didn’t like being taken to the ground and attempted to pull off Garrett’s helmet.....

Miles is much stronger than Mason and showed him how to remove a lid.

Mason didn’t like that either, and should have left the scene like a good QB when your linemen step in. At that point the big boys handle big boy stuff. But he didn’t.......

Then Miles is tackled by DeCastro who was the only SANE person doing the RIGHT thing the whole time. He attempted to shield Miles from everything.

Before he went down though, Miles did one of the stupidest things I’ve ever seen on a football field.

He deserves at LEAST 6 games and I wouldn’t flinch at a season long ban.

Mason deserves at minimum a fine.

Pouncey deserves at minimum 2-3 games for his punching and kicking.

Mason’s press conference post game was PURE PUNK. I actually really liked the kid, was really rooting for him as I watched him at OSU.
stinger88
6 years ago
Mason has some of this blame too. He tried to rip the helmet off Garret. Then he pushed his cleats right into the groin of Garret. At that point Garret went a little nuts. For sure Mason should have received some type of punishment.
tailgater
6 years ago
Charged criminally?
LOL!

I like keeping him off the field for the remainder of the season.
OK to discuss some time next year, but probably not necessary.

But criminal?


Frank mentioned hockey. But look at baseball.
Dude throwing 100 mph hard ball at you? Lock him up!!


We can't pick and choose when we need law enforcement in sports because it hurts our sensibilities.

Hit dude with empty helmet? Arrest him!
Run head first at full speed wearing a helmet? let the league handle it.

Me?
I'd rather take the hit Rudolf received then be on the receiving end of a human battering ram to my noggin.

No contest.






tailgater
6 years ago

Garret didn’t know the ball was out because of where his head was positioned while taking Rudolph to the ground.

Mason didn’t like being taken to the ground and attempted to pull off Garrett’s helmet.....

Miles is much stronger than Mason and showed him how to remove a lid.

Mason didn’t like that either, and should have left the scene like a good QB when your linemen step in. At that point the big boys handle big boy stuff. But he didn’t.......

Then Miles is tackled by DeCastro who was the only SANE person doing the RIGHT thing the whole time. He attempted to shield Miles from everything.

Before he went down though, Miles did one of the stupidest things I’ve ever seen on a football field.

He deserves at LEAST 6 games and I wouldn’t flinch at a season long ban.

Mason deserves at minimum a fine.

Pouncey deserves at minimum 2-3 games for his punching and kicking.

Mason’s press conference post game was PURE PUNK. I actually really liked the kid, was really rooting for him as I watched him at OSU.

ZRX1200 wrote:



Good take.
Pouncy is a punk and his kick and punches deserve something. but watching the whole thing he was actually justified.
I missed Mason's post game. I don't like the stillers, but I did like this kid's style until this incident.

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