KingoftheCove
6 years ago
I posted this:

Just gonna say this once, cause I care about a few of you azzhats.

You better start paying attention to what’s going on.
The situation is considerably worse than most of you think.
I’m not trying to get all Jonsey here, but I do have some knowledge and sources of info.
It’s not just the virus that’s going to cause problems because it will kill a certain percentage of people.
It’s the ancillary damage it will cause to the global economy, which has already started.

Start preparing.


For the most part, the response here, and some other places where I essentially said the same thing, was...
- nothing burger
- flu is worse
- media driven
- nothing I need to worry about
and so on.

Here we are, about where I'd thought we'd be.
It's going to get "interesting" in another 30 days.
But not to worry.........China has already rid itself of the virus and has no new cases!
Everything will be back to normal in a few short weeks, cause well heck, if China got rid of the virus, then we certainly can as well.

Carry on...
MACS
6 years ago
And the flu is STILL more prevalent than the wuhan virus... and still kills more... and you're still promoting unnecessary panic.

30 days later.
teedubbya
6 years ago
MACS
6 years ago

Sigh

teedubbya wrote:



And here comes doctor fence post up my ass!!!
teedubbya
6 years ago
Nope.

Just busy working at the moment and the post caught my attention. It’s going to be a busy few months for me so believe what you want.
KingoftheCove
6 years ago

And the flu is STILL more prevalent than the wuhan virus... and still kills more... and you're still promoting unnecessary panic.

30 days later.

MACS wrote:


Really?
I said nothing about panic.
I simply advised people to pay attention, prepare, and maybe not believe everything they are being "fed", because my sources were telling me different.

Yes......I do have sources (how's that for gettin Jonsey!.....heh)

No biggie.......I'll bump this in 30 days, and we'll see how things are lookin.
No more NBA for a while.....bummer...
MACS
6 years ago
I have sources, too... actual doctors, conferring with other doctors...

Got this from Choner, who got it from a doctor friend... (some of you may not know choner... he used to post here)

A few thoughts on covid-19, especially since there are so many questions….

This is information I’ve borrowed from other doctors, based on the Chinese data set, front lines in Italy and Washington State. It’s put together for non-professional purposes, and I hope you find some of it useful.

Common symptoms:
The most common symptoms are fever, dry cough, exhaustion, and body aches.

A smaller number of people have sore throat, stuffy nose, nausea/diarrhea.

*Runny nose does not seem to be a common symptom of covid19

Disease Course:
Seems the majority of people will have mild disease that resolves within two weeks (80% of people). In comparison, influenza presents with sudden onset of symptoms (fever, chills, etc)

For those that are going to take a turn for the worst (20%), things start turning worst during the second week of illness (around days 8 and 9), with worsening shortness of breath (pneumonia, pneumonitis, ARDS). This ultimately requires supplemental oxygen--initially with some type of mask, followed by mechanical ventilation (5%) at worst. People who have more severe disease tend to take 4-6 weeks to recover.

Symptoms onset:
Usually happens 2-9 days post-exposure (with median of 5 days). Meaning once you are exposed, if you are going to get sick, it takes somewhere between 2-9 days (median of 5 days) for symptoms to start developing.

Transmission:
Majority of transmission is through droplet (coughing, sneezing, surfaces), and not through fine aerosols. Transmission by fine aerosols in the air over long distances is not one of the main causes of spread.

This means, surgical masks are sufficient for droplet precautions. N95s are meant to be used for airborne precautions. Please don’t hoard the N95s, these are needed badly by frontline healthcare people (doctors, nurses, respiratory technicians) who are giving treatments that aerosolize the virus (like nebulizer treatments, bipap/cpap, intubation).

Apparently the virus lives on surfaces for days (I’ve read a range, from 12 hours to 9 days) Disinfect surfaces (alcohol, bleach) often.

Things to do (or not do):

1. Wash. Your. Hands. Wash them so much. Otherwise, use the gels / hand sanitizer. Maybe stop shaking hands…some kind of elbow bump would be cool.

2. Don’t pick your nose. Or put your fingers in your mouth, on your lips, or in your eyes. (Or anyone elses)

3. Surgical masks seem to be enough to limit the spread AND protect you from disease. Please leave the N95s for the frontline healthcare workers who need them.

4. Sanitize the objects that lots of other people touch, (door knobs, light switches, pens, phones, toilet flushes, sink taps). Bleach...alcohol...soap...

5. Social distancing. Do it. This means keeping people apart from one another (preferably 6 feet apart, and sanitize shared objects).

6. If you are sick, stay home. Just stay at home.

7. If school or other events are cancelled and/or you are asked to limit non-essential movement...Just do it.

8. If you’re not feeling super sick or short of breath, DO NOT come to the emergency department. Coming there “to get tested” clogs the system up and delays our ability to care for those who really need it. If you want to get tested, call your primary doctor or better yet call the department of public health. Please don’t come to the ER unless you absolutely need to.

Don’t panic, but at the same time do not blow this off either

Feel free to copy, past, and share widely.
teedubbya
6 years ago
There is middle between panicking and putting your head in the sand.

The numbers are much higher than reported due to lack of testing. I’m most worried about the medical infrastructure and in particular icus and ventilators. Hopefully all the experts are either wrong or the social distancing or “panic” works to mitigate things.

Fasten you’re seatbelts. Many of my peers are being deployed as we speak.
KingoftheCove
6 years ago
it's like I said in my OP!
It's the ANCILLARY chit MACs.
I'm not running around screaming Covid gonna kill us!!!

It ain't.
But the "disruptions" to normal life are going to be a pain in the azz under the BEST case scenario.
In the worst case scenario?
Well, chit might get ugly.
teedubbya
6 years ago
Well it is sort of an I told you so OP lol

The “flu is worse” mantra is so last week and already wrong. I could talk data or repeat Dr Fauci’s response to that but it’s easier to poi t out the absurdity of that.

What type of idiot would suspend all travel from Europe for a flu outbreak. The rhetoric doesn’t match the action.

This sucker is taking off. We can only hope our actions mitigate it.
MACS
6 years ago
You think China didn't do this chit on purpose? Why say nothing until it was impossible to deny it?

Hell yeah it's fkn with our markets. Hell yeah it's fkn with our day to day life. You think that's coincidence? Ancilliary? I do not. What's making it worse is the 24/7 media blitz and everyone's panic.

Me? I've lost less than $100 on accounts that are susceptible to the market. I've gained $1000 on others. I'm patiently waiting for the panic to look fkn stupid... and then re-invest my $$.
teedubbya
6 years ago
And panic does no one any good.
teedubbya
6 years ago
Alex Jones has the cure.

Our own government suppressed information. Why?

Where are you getting the China did it intentionally info?
teedubbya
6 years ago
Information is good and we need the press to get info out there. It’s hard in one breath to blame China for suppressing information and the press for covering it.

We need more info not less.
teedubbya
6 years ago
We need to step away from the politics and treat it in a scientific way. The conspiracy crap and attempts to minimize things needs to end.

So does the fear mongering.
teedubbya
6 years ago
I hope it’s a nothing burger. Nothing would make me happier.

I’ll check out though and let y’all have fun with it. It’s causing me a lot of work and I need to get away from it lol.
KingoftheCove
6 years ago

Well it is sort of an I told you so OP lol

teedubbya wrote:


heh heh.........well......somewhat guilty as charged...

30 days........we'll see where things are in 30 days.....

8trackdisco
6 years ago

And panic does no one any good.

teedubbya wrote:



Especially if you had much of your retirement invested in BA.

If a person wants to buy BA tomorrow, panic certainly did them good.
teedubbya
6 years ago
One last thing.

Johns Hopkins has a decent tracking map. It’s on their sight. If you get it emailed to you don’t open it. It’s infected with malware and not from Johns Hopkins.

People are evil.
teedubbya
6 years ago
The one on their site is legit if I wasn’t clear.
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