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To be clear that’s not meant as a challenge or anything negative. I’ve just been reading a lot of preliminary studies which I can’t really post. Just wondering where yours comes from. [...] And I am not disagreeing or denigrating the info. Just want to follow up and look deeper. For my purposes not to disparage.

teedubbya wrote:

Understood. Not the typical Internet troll type, but a guy who is politely and respecfully trying to share info.

I gotcha. Cool.

teedubbya wrote:

Glad to help. Hope you can find most/all of the stuff. Happy reading!
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USNGunner
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6 years ago

#423

.5. FDA just approved a new COVID-19 test. Details:

Compact, can be done in a doctor's office, no hospital needed.
Provides positive results in 5 minutes.
Provides negative results in 13 minutes.
Will facilitate much easier and widespread mass testing.
Intention is to test millions of people in April..

Pudding Mittens wrote:

I just ran this by my wife (She works in our local hospitals lab), her lab supervisor and the hospital pathologist.

Speaking to this one and this one alone. The FDA has thrown the doors wide open. This is an emergency, go for it. They're pretty much approving anything that doesn't look harmful.

As to this test, if it's the point of care test using a blood droplet, their evaluation is that's it's not accurate enough to be reliable. It is essentially kabuki theatre (opinion!). Until they actually isolate the specific anti-bodies, it's a shot in the dark. Our hospital after looking at the data is not using that test at any of their facilities.

My wife's lab manager is a **** hot med lab scientist, super educated and a sharp cookie. She is one of the few people that when she actually lays out an opinion I take heed of.

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teedubbya
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6 years ago

#424

Lots of different tests. Some to see if you have it others HAD it.

Can’t wait to find out if I had it. Maybe can help more if you did.

Edit - not in reference to above post.

USNGunner
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6 years ago

#425

Lots of different tests. Some to see if you have it others HAD it.

Can’t wait to find out if I had it. Maybe can help more if you did.

Edit - not in reference to above post.

teedubbya wrote:

Right. That's why I put "opinion" in the post. There is so much getting put out, it's easy to get lost in the whirlwind.

teedubbya
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6 years ago

#426

I wasn’t even thinking about your post. The blood left my head at **** hot med lab scientists.

Thinking of writing a sequel to my book (why do I cry when I self pleasure)

Working title is who knew tears make good lube?

USNGunner
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6 years ago

#427

teedubbya wrote:

She is a sharp sharp cookie. But she does that funky blue winged eyeshade thing. It reminds me of the secretary from the drew carrie show. Samantha fish does that too. I hate that.

teedubbya
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6 years ago

#428

It just moved.

Pudding Mittens
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6 years ago

#429

why do I cry when I self pleasure

teedubbya wrote:

The sweet sinful release of Onanism moves you to tears?
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teedubbya
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6 years ago

#430

It’s mostly guilt and sadness

Pudding Mittens
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6 years ago

#431

5. FDA just approved a new COVID-19 test. Details:

Compact, can be done in a doctor's office, no hospital needed.
Provides positive results in 5 minutes.
Provides negative results in 13 minutes.
Will facilitate much easier and widespread mass testing.
Intention is to test millions of people in April.
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Pudding Mittens wrote:

Abbott press release about this:

https://abbott.mediaroom.com/2020-03-27-Abbott-Launches-Molecular-Point-of-Care-Test-to-Detect-Novel-Coronavirus-in-as-Little-as-Five-Minutes

And a correction, turns out it's not "approved" rather it was given an "emergency use authorization".
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danmdevries
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6 years ago

#432

What do you expect to come from a test? Numbers?

It does absolutely nothing for us. My hospital has tested five. Treated as positive, and 10 days later yup.. positive. We have nearly 100 cases, but can tell the news we have five

It changes nothing, since there's no treatment. All we do is support failing body systems. Even if this was 100% unknown viral syndrome, we treat like this.

I'd much rather see new respirators being manufactured over useless tests. We have to reuse our respirators, which up until now was an absolute NO. Were being issued one. That's all we get until further notice. It's like being airdropped in a warzone in your underpants and handed a stick.

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copuffer1
Rookie

6 years ago

#433

I live in the Caribbean, and the virus has got the entire country on lockdown. It's completely effed up my supply chain, meaning no new deliveries for me. I got 27 ciggies left in my meagre stash and i'm down to smoking half a 'gar when the urge pounds my delicate snowflake butt.

I will say one thing, my nicotine tolerance which I'd proudly built up over the years has taken a mack truck sized hit from smoking infrequently now. so much so, half a hc cubana knocks me on my azz. Thanks corona for effing up my formerly sweet azz smoking life. [frypan]

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frankj1
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6 years ago

#434

copuffer1 wrote:

double up on the rum

Pudding Mittens
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6 years ago

#435

there's no treatment.

danmdevries wrote:

It increasingly looks very much like there is, hydroxycholoroquine and azithromycin (under a doctor's discretion and control, of course).

See my prior posts about the remarkable real-world results achieved with hospitalized COVID-19 patients, many of them in advanced stages, and an initial report indicating no incremental risk when using the two drugs together.

Yeah I know, no large-scale controlled definitive tests yet, but that doesn't mean you don't have a look at the evidence that DOES exist. And MDs have been doing exactly that lately, which is why off-label use of this pair of drugs for COVID-19 is being widely done now, all across the U.S. and much of the rest of the world, by many many doctors.

There is also "informed speculation", so to speak, that hydroxycholoroquine may work as a COVID-19 prophylactic when given to healthcare workers. Some doctors are using it for this purpose now. One from NYC who deals with lots and lots of COVID-19 patients daily was interviewed on cable news last night, and said if anyone should have COVID-19 by now it should be him, but he doesn't, which he suspects is because of his prophylactic use of hydroxycholoroquine. Yes, much more evidence and formal studies are needed on this.
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victor809
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6 years ago

#436

Uh... Pudding... You did see danms post where he said they were try that in his hospital and it wasn't saving anyone, right? Maybe not really smart to be telling him that it's an exciting new treatment.

Pudding Mittens
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6 years ago

#437

victor809 wrote:

Well, everyone scolds me about anecdotal data not being worth much... when it shows this drug-pair working, that is. And yet when there's a single anecdotal report of it not working, suddenly that anecdotal is golden somehow? Okaaaaaay then.

All I can say is that it's reportedly working in a whole lot of other places!

We'll see what shakes out over time.
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victor809
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6 years ago

#438

I'm not saying his anecdotal evidence is better than yours. Just that telling someone to be excited about a treatment they're already trying (and watching people die on) is maybe a bad choice.

Pudding Mittens
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6 years ago

#439

I'm not saying his anecdotal evidence is better than yours. Just that telling someone to be excited about a treatment they're already trying (and watching people die on) is maybe a bad choice.

victor809 wrote:

1. I never said to "get excited" about it.

2. I quoted his statement for comment purposes, but as always, I was speaking to all readers of this forum. It wasn't a private message to him.

If it's working some places and not in others, that's obviously odd, and I wonder what the explanation is. I suspect we won't know for quite some time. But to say "there's no treatment" may not be correct. Or, it might be correct! We just don't know yet and can't definitively say, that was my point.
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victor809
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6 years ago

#440

"remarkable real world results"... Practically had it's own exclamation point....

I know you're really excited about this possibility man... And I like bursting your bubble... I am a misanthrope... But I'm not actually trying to do that this time. I was literally just trying to remind you that you're telling a dude who has actually been using this treatment and himself said it's done nothing for the patients he's seen, to be hopeful about it coming up.

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