Yes, apparently the hydroxychloroquine makes it much easier for zinc to get inside your cells, where the zinc greatly interferes with viral replication. So, both taken together are real dynamite. Dr. Vladimir Zelenko from NY state noted the same thing, seeing amazing results using both plus azithromycin in 699 patients, nearly all of whom had great recoveries, and most of whom had symptoms very greatly reduced within just 4-6 hours after first dose.

The azithromycin also greatly enhances effects. Experts are unsure if it's just prevention/attacking secondary bacterial infections or something more, but it seems to be something more, given azithromycin's long-observed history of apparent antiviral effects in-vivo, and clear evidence against virii in-vitro.

To sum up though, the three together (hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and zinc usually in the form of zinc sulfate) are quite the effective combination.

Dr. Stephen Smith, Dr. Ramin Oskoui, the aforementioned Dr. Vladimir Zelenko all have large and ever-growing databases of patients in which this triple-combo worked great.

Lots of anecdotals too, including the MI state rep Democrat who, like many others have said, saw huge relief from symptoms in just hours after starting the treatment. I've seen lots of others that say "overnight" or "within hours" of the first dose, they felt amazingly better.

Also, Dr. Marc Siegel (associate professor of medicine at NYU Langone Medical Center) announced last night that he witnessed a 96-year-old man who was on death's doorstep suddenly have an amazing recovery just hours after taking the combo.... and he should know, because the man is his father!

The French doctor who did the original small study on hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, then did the 80-patient one with similar amazing results, has just completed a 1000-patient study. Again like the others it's uncontrolled (as he considers it unethical to deny half the participants life-saving treatments), but he's reporting that of the 1000, only 7 required ICU of which only 2 died, presumably meaning the other 993 survived and recovered. Publication is pending.

Stay tuned!
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Pudding Mittens wrote:

sigh. I’m not going to say it again.

teedubbya wrote:

you keep promising...

frankj1 wrote:

Yes, apparently the hydroxychloroquine makes it much easier for zinc to get inside your cells, where the zinc greatly interferes with viral replication. So, both taken together are real dynamite. Dr. Vladimir Zelenko from NY state noted the same thing, seeing amazing results using both plus azithromycin in 699 patients, nearly all of whom had great recoveries, and most of whom had symptoms very greatly reduced within just 4-6 hours after first dose.

The azithromycin also greatly enhances effects. Experts are unsure if it's just prevention/attacking secondary bacterial infections or something more, but it seems to be something more, given azithromycin's long-observed history of apparent antiviral effects in-vivo, and clear evidence against virii in-vitro.

To sum up though, the three together (hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and zinc usually in the form of zinc sulfate) are quite the effective combination.

Dr. Stephen Smith, Dr. Ramin Oskoui, the aforementioned Dr. Vladimir Zelenko all have large and ever-growing databases of patients in which this triple-combo worked great.

Lots of anecdotals too, including the MI state rep Democrat who, like many others have said, saw huge relief from symptoms in just hours after starting the treatment. I've seen lots of others that say "overnight" or "within hours" of the first dose, they felt amazingly better.

Also, Dr. Marc Siegel (associate professor of medicine at NYU Langone Medical Center) announced last night that he witnessed a 96-year-old man who was on death's doorstep suddenly have an amazing recovery just hours after taking the combo.... and he should know, because the man is his father!

The French doctor who did the original small study on hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, then did the 80-patient one with similar amazing results, has just completed a 1000-patient study. Again like the others it's uncontrolled (as he considers it unethical to deny half the participants life-saving treatments), but he's reporting that of the 1000, only 7 required ICU of which only 2 died, presumably meaning the other 993 survived and recovered. Publication is pending.

Stay tuned!
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Pudding Mittens wrote:

and this is a completely different explanation for why these drugs might work than Gene's article gave.

This is why people are skeptical. You don't get the benefit of the doubt when you cannot identify how something is working.

More anecdotes doesn't data make.

victor809 wrote:

I was talking with Doctor B Hole Feelengraüb recently and I mentioned to him that over the weekend I had spit into a strippers mouth and that - almost miraculously - that stripper had remained coronas free...

And I asked him, I said "Dr B, you think there might be some kinda magical properties to my saliva? Some kinda life saving, coronas defeating abilities inside of my spit?"

And Doctor B looked me deep in the eyes and grabbed onto both my hands as he wiped the coke from his fumanchu with his shoulder... and I'll never forget what he said to me, he says "we're gonna be ******** millionaires!"

So, we've started a joint venture... Opie N' Feelangraüb's Cure All Tonic... $50 a month will get you a 2 oz spray vial of tonic and a face towel for clean up delivered straight to your doorstep on a tri-monthly basis...

Yes, it's just bottles of (mostly) my spit, but I can tell you firsthand Cinnamon has never looked this Good.... Ever...

And while this tonic is currently being marketed as a Corona Virus preventer and eliminator, the good doctor has a high level of confidence that this stuff'll protect against a whole host of bad ****!
Heck, even cinnamon's Adams Apple looks like it might be shrinking down a little bit...

It's a miracle cure all folks! Order now to begin your tri-monthly deliveries immediately, or come on down to City Lights and get ya some straight from the source!

opelmanta1900 wrote:

I was talking with Doctor B Hole Feelengraüb recently and I mentioned to him that over the weekend I had spit into a strippers mouth and that - almost miraculously - that stripper had remained coronas free...

And I asked him, I said "Dr B, you think there might be some kinda magical properties to my saliva? Some kinda life saving, coronas defeating abilities inside of my spit?"

And Doctor B looked me deep in the eyes and grabbed onto both my hands as he wiped the coke from his fumanchu with his shoulder... and I'll never forget what he said to me, he says "we're gonna be ******** millionaires!"

So, we've started a joint venture... Opie N' Feelangraüb's Cure All Tonic... $50 a month will get you a 2 oz spray vial of tonic and a face towel for clean up delivered straight to your doorstep on a tri-monthly basis...

Yes, it's just bottles of (mostly) my spit, but I can tell you firsthand Cinnamon has never looked this Good.... Ever...

And while this tonic is currently being marketed as a Corona Virus preventer and eliminator, the good doctor has a high level of confidence that this stuff'll protect against a whole host of bad ****!
Heck, even cinnamon's Adams Apple looks like it might be shrinking down a little bit...

It's a miracle cure all folks! Order now to begin your tri-monthly deliveries immediately, or come on down to City Lights and get ya some straight from the source!

opelmanta1900 wrote:

and this is a completely different explanation for why these drugs might work than Gene's article gave.

This is why people are skeptical. You don't get the benefit of the doubt when you cannot identify how something is working.

victor809 wrote:

The main hydroxychloroquine methods of action I didn't mention. I only mentioned that it ALSO helps zinc get inside the cells. It wasn't a complete description of all it does!

The complete description is more complex, and only partially understood at present.

The full explanation is unknown. But we don't NEED ONE if it works! Do you have any idea how many drugs are sold with the disclaimer "the mechanism of action is unknown"? Tons of them, for decades now. Yup they had controlled study results, but we're about to have some too, thanks to the 1500-patients controlled and randomized study in NY, the results of which will be released eventually.
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Pudding Mittens wrote: