KingoftheCove
6 years ago
Well, most of what I thought was gonna happen did.
Some stuff wasn’t as bad, other stuff worse.

Feel horrible for front liners like Dan and others, and pray for them daily.

Social distancing appears to be quite effective, and hopefully we keep it up.

Eventually the ethical dilemma will come.............when to “open things” up again.
That’s gonna be a difficult decision, and an even more challenging execution.
Fun times ahead.
Stay safe azzhats!
Carry on....
teedubbya
6 years ago
I’m actually more optimistic about all this than I have been in a while. Famous last words lol.
HockeyDad
6 years ago
I’m just glad we cured climate change.
MACS
6 years ago
Well... according to the models used by the "experts" to shut things down, it was not nearly as bad as they predicted. Not even close.
DrafterX
6 years ago
I tried to tell you guys... 🤐
tonygraz
6 years ago
I'm not optimistic. I fear a second and third wave which we will not be ready for. Toilet paper will be the new currency and spread the virus again.
teedubbya
6 years ago

Well... according to the models used by the "experts" to shut things down, it was not nearly as bad as they predicted. Not even close.

MACS wrote:




That’s not how it works and not an accurate statement. i won’t even try to explain in detail because frankly I think for some reason you want to minimize it.

I’ll just say this. The problem with oversimplifying this is it does not account for all the variables and doesn’t even know what they are. All the reputable models have been remarkably similar and remarkably accurate. This virus is MORE dangerous than first thought (I’m not talking just death rate, there is much more to it). The models have been very effective in driving decisions (not just social distancing but much more, some in the hospitals etc.)

Let’s just throw out one variable for fun. The miracle malaria drug. If it works and is being used widely is the model wrong and thus all our actions.

And there are a bunch of these variables.

I wish all the models were wrong and we could just go back to normal today. Try it. That’s what rushbo et all are preaching. I’ve seen enough to know better.

Oversimplification is not your friend here.
RMAN4443
6 years ago

I'm not optimistic. I fear a second and third wave which we will not be ready for. Toilet paper will be the new currency and spread the virus again.

tonygraz wrote:


Toilet paper is not for spreading, I'm pretty sure if used correctly, it's more for collecting than spreading...:-k
Palama
6 years ago
The only things I care about right now:

1. When will Ron be able to have his surgery? The sooner the better.
2. When will we be able to physically (...and safely...) get together with Ron and herf in Vegas?

Well, okay, there are many other things I care about but for this forum, those two are of the utmost importance.
teedubbya
6 years ago
frankj1
6 years ago
HockeyDad
6 years ago
TW being optimistic.....he prolly scored a bottle of that Chlomonafedrube Anecdote.
danmdevries
6 years ago
Shutting down seems to be working.

The hoardes of infected have slowed at work. But we still have something like 35-40 on vents and another 50-60 confirmed needing hospitalization.

That's out of about 200 patients....

Numbers aside, if everyone could see what this chit does to you, might not be too eager to mingle in crowds just yet. I know I'm not.
MACS
6 years ago
We have 2 deputies passed on, an LT and a nurse on ventilators. I understand what it does to some. What I really want is an accurate account of numbers. Who has it, who has no symptoms, who has mild symptoms, who has bad symptoms and who dies.

That info is required to come up with real numbers for real models from which we can make informed decisions.
KingoftheCove
6 years ago

We have 2 deputies passed on, an LT and a nurse on ventilators. I understand what it does to some. What I really want is an accurate account of numbers. Who has it, who has no symptoms, who has mild symptoms, who has bad symptoms and who dies.

That info is required to come up with real numbers for real models from which we can make informed decisions.

MACS wrote:


,Absolutely true.
Unfortunately, most of that data, to be valid, will come in after the fact.
They are doing the best they can, with the ever changing information that literally comes in hourly.
There will be some tough decisions in the coming weeks.
Waiting too long to reopen the country has its own, pretty dang huge risks.
Like Patton said...

A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week.
HockeyDad
6 years ago
The economic hardship has disproportionately hit the lower and middle class. Every time they turn on the news and hear they need to shelter in place X weeks longer, that person telling them that has a job and can pay bills.

Eventually society will break down and when the Purge alarms start sounding, the eggheads in lab coats are going to get their labs burned down. They don’t have 12-18 months for double blind placebo blah blah.

Remember... for quality torches and pitchforks look for the “Le Hockeydad” label!
Speyside
6 years ago
^ Absolutly correct. If people are starving to death they don't give a damn.
MACS
6 years ago
I just told my wife today that Americans will only put up with the lack of freedom bullshit for so long... and then they'll just exercise their freedoms.

Le Hockeydad is 100% correct. Rich people doing just fine. Middle class and poor folks getting the short end of the deal with this.
frankj1
6 years ago
so ya think it's time to vote differently?


feel the Bern?
plinytheelder
6 years ago
Some hold up S. Korea as an example.
From family, if someone in the building has it, they sanitize the whole building to try and eliminate it.
For me, therein lies the rub. People can spend a lot of time indoors here, "isolated", but if nothing is done about the free virus that is remaining on surfaces, how can anyone give a confident prediction on the odds of a second wave? That has happened in Korea and they study it and try to figure out where it came from.

I'm much more concerned by the person in an isolated jungle/island tribe that contacted the disease without outside influence.
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