if we don't care about people dying, we can "end the charade"

delta1 wrote:

I didn't read the original link yet. But of course the death rate is over estimated.
It relies on confirmed cases and year to date the educated opinion is that America has far more unconfirmed (hell, untested) cases. Due to asymptomatic, or minor symptoms, or being told to stay home by the hospital until it gets bad.
It's unfortunate, but many people have already had this virus and don't know it. And I'm not a medical expert but I don't think we will know anything unless we come up with an antibody test.
We could be at 80% and have real herd immunity, yet if we don't know it we'll continue this charade to feel good about ourselves.

I heard there's already a vaccine for the COVID-19 virus, but they're holding it back until they are able to add the autism trigger.

tailgater wrote:

Or just keep driving. Because you must hate people if you drive a car. Because driving is known to cause deaths.

In other words, stop picking and choosing which deaths you want to worry about.

tailgater wrote:

WHAT!? The zombie apocalypse? I haven't bought my AR-15 yet!

MACS wrote:

Driving autos/vehicles has known historic risks that are acceptable because the method of conveyance has proven beneficial to our economy/society...

the virus hasn't provided a clue as to its beneficial nature...

delta1 wrote:

If you'd bothered to read the link I posted you wouldn't be throwing out a number like "80%".
We have about 500,000 cases in the US (known)
I posted evidence that we may be seeing about 50% of cases being asymptomatic (there's a lot of wiggle room in the 50%, but that give you at least an order of magnitude).
Now assuming all 500,000 cases are symptomatic (they're not, but we'll let them go in the wash for now) then we're looking at maybe 1,000,000 total cases in the US. Which has a population of 350,000,000.

So our best estimate would be that we're at 0.3% have that "herd immunity".

It's dumb to say "we could be at 80% and have real herd immunity". Like... not even understanding the magnitude of difference dumb.

Let me break down the dumb.
for there to by 80% herd immunity at this point, we would have had to have 280,000,000 cases in the US. With 500,000 cases detected, then we would have a symptomatic rate of 0.1%. Literally, one person in every 1000 infected would show symptoms. That's.... practically undetectable. Those cruise ships, at 100% infection rate, would only have 3 people show symptoms. That's simply not reality.

victor809 wrote:

Driving autos/vehicles has known historic risks that are acceptable because the method of conveyance has proven beneficial to our economy/society...

the virus hasn't provided a clue as to its beneficial nature...

delta1 wrote:

Maybe the virus will cure autism.

HockeyDad wrote:

You need help.

tailgater wrote:

Isn't there an incentive to blame Covid-19 and not a death from infection?

Gene363 wrote: